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News: Paul Reiche and Fred Ford want to continue the story they started when they created Star Control II — The Ur-Quan Masters. «Happy days and jubilation!» «But wait!» «There is something wrong here... something which makes my sheath retract and my talons ooze.» «Please, Captain, we need your help!»

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1  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Technical Issues / Bugs to report on: January 29, 2019, 12:56:09 am
The link in the "DO NOT REPORT BUGS HERE ANYMORE" topic is broken. I couldn't find a place to do it.

And that stupid fuel gauge is STILL broken in 0.7. Shows short range with over 300 fuel.

Why make things so difficult?
2  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Swarming is broken on: January 29, 2019, 12:49:44 am
In my game I contacted Arilou., and then picked a random warp point. It dumped me across the map. So, I realized it was a mistake, and began going back to the left side of the map, visiting various systems. I knew the Ur-Quan were in there, but I figured I could run from anything I couldn't handle. Nnnnope!

I let someone catch me, in the middle of searching random star systems, and it was one of those two. You know how this works. It really didn't matter at that point if I fought well, if the Ur-Quan asked me to leave the area, or even if I had the portal device, because from that point on the game was softlocked into encounter after encounter. If you have 7 guys waiting, and more spawn faster than you can kill them or run, the game is over. Just continuing at that point is wrong; wrong for the game to imply you can continue and wrong for the player to hope he can succeed. GAME OVER.

I did kill quite a few and ran from many more, but it doesn't matter. Autopilot was already on before the first encounter. Game won't even let me transfer crew to the ship, let alone use devices or open the map. GAME OVER.

So, in terms of addressing this, I think it should be possible when being swarmed, if you manage to escape several attacks, you should have the privilege of retreat from a situation you cannot prevail in. Pretty much that "invincibility frames" type mechanic where, if you flee from a ship in a system, you have the ability to flee. It doesn't even make sense that you "escaped" from a battle, but didn't because you never moved from the point of danger.

I read the interpretation of some that "you shouldn't go over there, it's supposed to be dangerous" and I get that, but not only can you do this easily if you just deliberately avoid encounters/swarms, but that's not the point. Of course the area is dangerous. All Thrall areas are theoretically. The point is that the game is giving you tools to retreat and salvage a mistake, and those tools are a farce and nonfunctional when there's a swarm, and that is wrong.

At the very least you should be able to make progress on retreat if you are successfully killing or fleeing in battle, I am not supporting impunity in doctrinal space.
3  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Ur-Quan Masters HD Mod on: January 23, 2015, 06:18:57 am
AFAIK they are selling SC as well. For what purpose, I can't say, because AFAIK SC is an almost totally inferior version of essentially the same game. (See Europa Universalis to Europa Universalis II).

Why not get an upgraded game for free  Grin
4  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: I've just had half an hour battle: Mycon vs Spatchi on: January 30, 2012, 04:51:34 am
The gravity whip is your friend. Eventually you will be flying right in front of those Spathi, and that is around the time to release a plasmoid. At a 90 degree angle to the target and your direction.
5  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Doctrinal War, or how to move around the galaxy on: January 30, 2012, 04:49:07 am
I don't see why the 30% needs to include "other Ur-Quan fleets" any more than Earth had to be hit by the glory device. Clearly there was a range, so even if most of the fleet was involved with the Yehat, the rest of the Ur-Quan nation, so to speak, wouldn't be.
6  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: UQM 0.7.0 release candidate 2 on: June 25, 2011, 11:44:55 pm
Oh, cool, an UQM update!  Grin
7  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Orz Translation on: September 08, 2010, 09:49:18 pm
There's no need to spray *juice* all over this topic  Tongue
8  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: What does Star Control II lack? on: September 08, 2010, 02:48:05 am
Enough clues to saving the galaxy before the game ends 3 times.

I think the Melnorme say the Sa-Matra is a battleship.
9  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: I must escape on: April 21, 2010, 04:20:00 am

I've never run into the time limit myself, possibly because I tend to assume I am working against a time limit, rather than assume I have all the time in the world. This got a bit silly on my first play-through of Mass Effect, which turned out to be very brief (and unnecessarily hard) since I was saving pretty much all the side quests for when the immediate threat to the galaxy was taken care of. I was quite surprised when the game ended.

This is why you're defending it. I spent days trying to figure it out, investigating every scrap of information I could find, buying every tip from the Melnorme, landing on random worlds in vain hope...how is that not Evil?
10  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: I must escape on: April 16, 2010, 03:22:34 am
Under the revised Zarf's Cruelty Scale of Interactive Fiction, UQM is firmly in the "Tough" camp; there are lots of ways to end up in a situation you can't get out of, but most of them involve entering deep into enemy territory without being prepared. SC3 descends into "Nasty"; saying the wrong thing to an alien can get you fired, ending the game! This is probably one of the reasons why SC3 is considered evil.

All those save slots are there for a reason, people.

That's a pretty cool site.

As far as UQM is concerned, it's...Evil. Think - you have to visit various far flung worlds in a certain order, some of which aren't actually necessary and waste your time (it could add to the game, but that's useless if you have to start all over again to do it), and there's no indication that you've passed a point of no return. It's Evil and I struggle to think such a great game can be so evil. Can you tell I hate the time limit?  Tongue Cruel at best, but really, since you have to invest in the game so many hours just to find out you're screwed, Evil.
11  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Thraddash vs. Pkunk = futile on: April 15, 2010, 08:55:56 am
Here is what happened tonight.

I decided I would kill a fleet with the Thraddash. One ship. Unfortunately, that's not as easy as the experts say -

my first opponent was the Pkunk (The Peeled Eyes). I could not hit the guy no matter what I did. Once the Pkunk blundered into fire after the gravity whip, but that only slightly damaged the Pkunk, and every time I tried to get close enough to burn him, he hurt me.

Conclusion: Thraddash vs. Awesome Pkunk = pointless.

Awesome Pkunk is a really irritating opponent, but most ships have some sort of area or guided attack to deal with them.

FYI, I know that it can be done, any fool can do the gravity whip trick enough times in an hour, but then the Pkunk likely get ANOTHER ship! Yeesh.
12  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: I'm not smart enough for this game... on: April 04, 2009, 01:07:44 am
Well, I finished the game  Grin
Thank you all for helping.

I haven't any clue when the sun device was mentioned. I don't think I got the shield, either...those items are so well hidden in the vast number of systems.
13  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: I'm not smart enough for this game... on: April 03, 2009, 03:25:09 am
I will now scour Mycon space for things which combine with devices!

Granted...they've discussed how they have hot energy, but I thought I had found what the Mycon had to offer, and what Organon has to do with it all eludes me.  Undecided
14  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: I'm not smart enough for this game... on: March 29, 2009, 01:39:51 am
I already sent the Mycon to Organon.
I already gathered um, egg sac or whatever it is called in an effort to trade it for other Druuge items (Greenish later helpfully informed me only the sphere is helpful).
I don't think I've found the Chenjesu.
I started the civil war, and I don't see how that helps me win (unless it takes some time).
I also turned the Pkunk away repeatedly, although I don't see how that specifically helps me either.

Unless I'm supposed to be wrapping the device in an egg sac to make it a weapon, which doesn't work, I don't understand.

I am getting good with Super-melee whilst this goes on, I can't play tomorrow though.
15  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: complete newbie needing some general advice on: March 22, 2009, 10:10:36 am
They advertised it as not being a video game console?! No wonder it failed...

That would be like Nintendo saying, "The Wii isn't a videogame console, it's an advanced multi-movement tracking system!"

Sony pretty much did the same with the PS3, saying it's an "entertainment center" rather than a game playing tool.
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