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Re: How do I save the Zoq-Fot-Pik?
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2018, 05:07:32 pm »

Current date is OCT22 Y2159
Circle disappeared may be a little earlier.

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The Death March commences the day that Kohr-Ah win the Doctrinal Conflict, that is, on 17 February 2159 or, if the Supox and the Utwig have attacked and weakened them, on 17 February 2160.

However, if the player is in the solar system of Delta Crateris at the time that the Kohr-Ah win, the Death March will be postponed by seven days. This can be repeated as many times as necessary (e.g. 24 February, 3 March, and so on).

http://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/Death_March

Is this the first time you play Star Control 2? It is a difficult game... you might need to start over again from the beginning...
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Re: How do I save the Zoq-Fot-Pik?
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2018, 07:30:04 pm »

When the black Kohr-Ah move, then they
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Re: How do I save the Zoq-Fot-Pik?
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2018, 07:35:18 pm »

I was planning to win this game Master of Orion style - by upgrading Mothership to the max and wiping all enemy fleets and colonies.
Looks like it's not working here.
While looks like I'm able to hold Solar system forever, by destroying any ship that enter, II cannot leave to do missions and so I doomed.
New game then.
One thing that hold my advance is lack of knowledge how to capture bio resources - I found that lander can fire stun gun way too late.
I had Mothership fully equipped with readily available modules, and was planned to find how to cap bio resources to sell to trader ships sometime later
... so I had to make long runs to find easy to take resources.

Thanks for answers!
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Re: How do I save the Zoq-Fot-Pik?
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2018, 09:45:56 pm »

Simple test for your tactics.
Have you ever visited an enemy home world?

Minor spoiler, the enemy homeworlds are usually defended by a fleet with
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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2018, 10:54:32 pm »

Simple test for your tactics.
Have you ever visited an enemy home world?

Minor spoiler, the enemy homeworlds are usually defended by a fleet with
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ships.

Fun fact, it's not an unlimited number. It's 65,535 ships.
But you still can't reduce the numbers because the NPC can cheat, specifically in this instance, by reusing defeated ships as much as they want.
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Re: How do I save the Zoq-Fot-Pik?
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2018, 11:04:47 pm »

I know it might would have made the game not work properly, but one of the things I disliked with SC2, was the "infinite" amount of ships at home planets, and in the circles/domains of the aliens.  For example, I could go to the home planets of for example the Traddash or Umgah, and fight forever without losing a ship.  When a single Kohr-Ah ship can take out the Zoq-Fot-Pik home planet, I should also have been able to take out the Traddash and Umgah home planets.

Anyhow, it is also a bit silly that you can only fight one ship against one other ship. In reality, I guess the Umgah and Traddash would have sent thousands of ships against one of my ships.
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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2018, 11:18:21 pm »

It would have been kinda neat if you could do your own "Cleansing".
I don't know what it would take to make that a possibility.

Though I could take a look.
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« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2018, 03:44:46 am »

Well, it'd take a lot more than just allowing you to defeat the fleet at a homeworld, though.
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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2018, 09:14:01 am »

Simple test for your tactics.
Have you ever visited an enemy home world?

Minor spoiler, the enemy homeworlds are usually defended by a fleet with
(click to show/hide)
ships.

Fun fact, it's not an unlimited number. It's 65,535 ships.
But you still can't reduce the numbers because the NPC can cheat, specifically in this instance, by reusing defeated ships as much as they want.
Why haven't I come across this fun fact before?

I'm missing it in the Ultronomicon...
http://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/Star_Control_II_facts

Also, thanks for sharing. So, I basically fight the same Umgah ship 10 times?
Does the counter even go down, or does it stay fixed at 65535?

Otherwise I'm tempted to actually use my BumpingTool and fight 65535 times in one location. Will take ages...
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Re: How do I save the Zoq-Fot-Pik?
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2018, 02:06:43 pm »

There is no winning scenario programmed in the game for the infinite fleet. In other words there is no counter.

You can set 65,535 to 1 and you'll be fighting the same ship over and over. All that happens is the crew refills and it refreshes the captain's name.
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Re: How do I save the Zoq-Fot-Pik?
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2018, 09:10:54 pm »

I feared so.
I know there's nothing in the conversation tree for such a case.
But still.....

Thanks for sharing the knowledge!
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