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Re: Age related education
« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2017, 12:02:49 pm »

What do you guys this about this idea, for how to educate young children. I think it is very important that they get to choose a bit themselves, and aren't forced all the time.


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« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2017, 12:47:38 pm »

Sounds like Montessori....
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« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2017, 02:27:35 pm »

Sounds like Montessori....

Always somebody else have thought of my smart ideas before me. Smiley

But lots of studies on that educational system that I can use to argue that this is better.

Since they are so similar, maybe I should call my educational system: "A modern Montessori inspired educational program"

EDIT: Now I have added lots of references to my education article (2 of them to studies on Montessori education)

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https://www.amazon.com/Turning-Education-Inside-Out-Confessions-Montessori/dp/1604271310/

I am thinking also, that the chemistry room and the physics rooms, could be filled with toys like from this site https://www.toysforscience.com/.
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« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2017, 11:30:15 am »

Anybody have experience with Sid the Science Kid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_the_Science_Kid). Looks like a nice TV-show for kids to learn science.

Or Bill Nye the Science Guy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Nye_the_Science_Guy)?

Also, anybody have experience with Real Science 4 Kids (https://www.homesciencetools.com/science-curriculum-kits/real-science-4-kids)?

Anyhow, I have put it resources for educating kids together on a page now: http://www.archania.org/resources_for_educating_kids.pdf
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« Reply #49 on: May 27, 2017, 02:40:20 am »

I saw a bit of Bill Nye but by the time he was on, I was over the target age range. I remember learning about reflected angles from 3-2-1 Contact, and a lot about whales and stuff from The Voyage of the Mimi (featuring Ben Affleck as an 11-year-old or thereabouts)
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« Reply #50 on: May 27, 2017, 11:15:06 am »

I saw a bit of Bill Nye but by the time he was on, I was over the target age range. I remember learning about reflected angles from 3-2-1 Contact, and a lot about whales and stuff from The Voyage of the Mimi (featuring Ben Affleck as an 11-year-old or thereabouts)

Interesting, but I have issues finding places to download (or buy) those TV shows.   Undecided

Also. Kids of today are not exactly starved of entertainment, with Internet, Netflix, and so on. With so much entertainment to choose from, it is somewhat unlikely that they are going to choose scientific educational entertainment. I recently had a discussion with a somewhat clever 9 year old, who didn't understand why he should focus upon scientific educational entertainment, when the "stupid" entertainment was much more fun.

It wouldn't be difficult to give a kid a Linux computer without Internet, where you install only scientific educational entertainment. Then I am sure the kid would find it entertaining, because there isn't available any other "stupid" forms of entertainment. But even if you did that, the kid would probably socialize with other kids, that have access to Internet and other "stupid" forms of entertainment.

So, in order to give your kid access to only scientific educational entertainment, you would need to limit also what the friends of your kid are watching. We really need to think about what our kids should be exposed to in our entire community.  I seriously doubt that  "flooding" our kids with all sorts of entertainment from the Internet, is the best form of entertainment we as a community can provide to our kids.

We should think about entertainment for children as food. You wouldn't want to feed to your kid junk food. Nor should you want to feed your kid "stupid" entertainment. Ideally, you want healthy food for your kid, and scientific educational entertainment.
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« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2017, 08:01:59 pm »

I made this illustration to put more weight on my point.



http://www.archania.org/resources_for_educating_kids.html

I think I am going to add a link to this webpage on that page, because of course I consider Star Control 2 to be a healthy type of entertainment.
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« Reply #52 on: June 05, 2017, 02:00:32 pm »

I found this online article related to this: https://www.gitbook.com/book/maciejolpinski/decentralised-attention-economies-for-the-web-3-0/details

Here is an illustration from the article:


Here is a quote from the article:
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For the 99,99% of our time on Earth humans lived in the information scarce environments and our brains evolved to react. Humans evolved in the conditions of scarcity of carbohydrates and fats in our natural environments. Today we’re able to manufacture sugars & fats in large quantities so these ingredients are no longer scarce. But our natural instincts push us towards these even though, these might be unhealthy for us in large doses. Twentieth century era of supermarkets and processed foods combined with our cravings for carbohydrates resulted in obesity epidemics in the developed world. We're seeing the same process unfolding with regard to information. people will mostly click information that is ‘bad’ for them. Clickbait, spammy ads, content containing false claims, content that confirms their biases, prejudices etc. Humans naturally respond faster to danger and negative messages as we’re wired to avoid danger.

I also found this article: http://firstmonday.org/article/view/519/440

And I ordered two books:



This also makes me think of the hypnotization field projection ribs on the Syreen Penetrator:

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« Reply #53 on: June 05, 2017, 03:45:39 pm »

That's kind of a scary thought, isn't it?
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« Reply #54 on: June 05, 2017, 07:17:13 pm »

That's kind of a scary thought, isn't it?

Doesn't look very promising for our future, especially after your countrymen voted for Donald Trump, which indicates that this might be a bigger problem than I had realized earlier. The laws and socioeconomic systems of countries seem to change way too slowly to be able to deal with this problem early enough.  Maybe we should expect presidents like Donald Trump in all our countries in the future....



We need to decrease the availability of fun, but noneducational entertainment. But I doubt this is possible in the current socioeconomic system. We probably need a completely new socioeconomic system, and such a system is probably not going to emerge before the current socioeconomic system has completely collapsed, which probably isn't going to happen in the near future.

Rather, we are likely to see a world population that slowly becomes more and more ignorant..... The American obesity epidemic didn't happen over night.  Unfortunately, ignorance is much more difficult to measure than obesity. The American population might have become more and more ignorant during the last 30 years without anyone noticing, until now, with the election of Donald Trump. An attention economy should go hand in hand with narcissism.



Updated article I have written about this: http://archania.org/the_emerging_ignorance_epidemic.html
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« Reply #55 on: June 08, 2017, 01:44:47 pm »

On the other hand, if Trump doesn't literally destroy us (it does seem fairly likely we'll survive), then perhaps he'll manage to discredit incompetence itself. It's really hard to see the pendulum just keeping on swinging this direction.
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« Reply #56 on: June 08, 2017, 02:26:32 pm »

On the other hand, if Trump doesn't literally destroy us (it does seem fairly likely we'll survive), then perhaps he'll manage to discredit incompetence itself. It's really hard to see the pendulum just keeping on swinging this direction.

Even if Trump manages to temporarily discredit his form of incompetence, people are not necessarily going to start getting less ignorant, especially not over night. Intelligent people are probably already starting to get more aware of how Trump could get elected, and you might start getting better at making automatic deception detection algorithms, like I wrote about before (http://forum.uqm.stack.nl/index.php?topic=6656.0). But I don't think we will see less sensational news, and less noneducational entertainment, in the near foreseeable future. Because they are commodities of a multi-trillion dollar industry, which is not going to decrease the availability willingly.

So... yeah.. you might get more friendly and socially acceptable presidents for sure, but I fear that highly educated serious presidents (like Angela Merkel) are a dying breed.  The ignorant people of today mostly want "fun candidates",  not intelligent serious ones like Angela Merkel. Internet is prompting a culture that expects everything to be "fun", even presidents.
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« Reply #57 on: June 10, 2017, 02:31:02 pm »

Here is a diagram I just made, to show why both Internet and traditional education is bad for children.



I have added the diagram on to this page http://archania.org/the_emerging_ignorance_epidemic.html
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« Reply #58 on: June 11, 2017, 06:41:45 pm »

I am reading the book by Judy Dempsey about Montessori education. Here is a quote from the book:

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« Reply #59 on: June 12, 2017, 03:52:08 am »

That sort of thing isn't unique to Montessori schooled children
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