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Re: The Star Control: Origins thread
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2018, 11:00:48 pm »

If Stardock loses the Star Control trademark, what will we call the game afterward?
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Re: The Star Control: Origins thread
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2018, 11:19:52 pm »

If they were to somehow lose that trademark?

Stardock: Origins? I mean, they've definitely got the rights to THAT.

And maybe 'Screw Atari for selling us a nothingburger for a lot of money, and P&F for not warning us: Origins'
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Re: The Star Control: Origins thread
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2018, 11:45:37 pm »

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Stardock: Origins? I mean, they've definitely got the rights to THAT.

What about Dock Control? or maybe something more like this...


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Re: The Star Control: Origins thread
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2018, 09:31:47 am »

Seriously... why not just call it Galactic Origins?

I'm sure Stardock knows the exact figures, but each edition of GalCiv sells around 300k (before expansion packs). Each edition of Star Control only sold 100k or so, and that was nearly 3 decades ago.

At this point, the only fans who really care about Star Control are ones who care about the original games, and it's gonna be hard to sell them on a new game if you're in a battle with the creators.

I'm sure they want to get the value of the Trademark. But rationally, it's a sunk cost. They could easily shift gears and promote under a new name for most of the benefit, if not more of a benefit.

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Re: The Star Control: Origins thread
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2018, 09:37:16 am »

At this current point in time, it's more likely that FaP will have to give up the IP to cover damages than Stardock would have to give up the Trademark.
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Re: The Star Control: Origins thread
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2018, 03:05:37 pm »

I have a hard time seeing either of those happening.
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Re: The Star Control: Origins thread
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2018, 03:58:25 pm »

Me neither.
Both rights are uncontested and acknowledged by the other side.
Thing is, trademarks have well-defined borders.
Copyrights do not have a well-defined border, especially in modern times when most creations are a group effort.

Therefore one is comparably easy to enforce, the other not.
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Re: The Star Control: Origins thread
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2018, 10:36:16 pm »

You know you're reading something from a Stardock cultist when they call the creators of Star Control "FaP". D999, would you be willing to start editing that heinous crap out? I know it's heavy-handed but when I open the "Team" page of the Ur-Quan Masters website it says,

We worship these two higher beings for making the original, legendary game:
Fred Ford
Paul Reiche III



I don't think it's too much to ask that forum-goers not slur their names around here.
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Re: The Star Control: Origins thread
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2018, 01:35:04 am »

Uh, first, welcome to the forum, Shiver.

Second, Death 999 is the global moderator of this forum.  Perhaps before insulting him you might want to learn more about the community here.
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Re: The Star Control: Origins thread
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2018, 01:45:27 am »

Uh, first, welcome to the forum, Shiver.

Second, Death 999 is the global moderator of this forum.  Perhaps before insulting him you might want to learn more about the community here.

Pfft, ha ha ha ha ha

I'm old as dirt around here. This account is a re-reg. I've even traded messages with you on PoNaF a little under the same name. And if Death takes offense, I'm sure he'll have no trouble managing me one way or another.
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Re: The Star Control: Origins thread
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2018, 02:10:44 am »

And if Death takes offense, I'm sure he'll have no trouble managing me one way or another.

Is that how your original account got deleted then?
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Re: The Star Control: Origins thread
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2018, 02:16:09 am »

Is that how your original account got deleted then?

No, I wanted a break. And hen-peck me all you guys want, calling the Star Control leads "FaP" is despicable and deserves to be called out.
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Re: The Star Control: Origins thread
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2018, 03:11:21 am »

FaP is easier to type on a phone without digging up the ampersand.

In English, it's traditional when you list things to go from syllable order (which isn't involved in the mono-syllabled Fred and Paul) and then alphabetical.  Like Dogar and Kazon, it should be Fred and Paul. 

You have an issue with the English language, that's on you.  I'll continue to write FaP or F&P depending on what I'm typing on.
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Re: The Star Control: Origins thread
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2018, 05:44:51 am »

FaP is easier to type on a phone without digging up the ampersand.

In English, it's traditional when you list things to go from syllable order (which isn't involved in the mono-syllabled Fred and Paul) and then alphabetical.  Like Dogar and Kazon, it should be Fred and Paul. 

You have an issue with the English language, that's on you.  I'll continue to write FaP or F&P depending on what I'm typing on.

It's like you're calling them the slang term for... ah, nevermind. I can see you don't mean any harm with it.
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Re: The Star Control: Origins thread
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2018, 07:31:48 am »

… sigh.

Yeah, FaP is amusing, and maybe PaF would be less snicker-snicker-y, BUT unless people began playing off it as direct taunts, I think going after it - especially aggressively like that - is making something out of nothing. Of course, the instant someone begins actually making that taunt, red flags gonna be flying. That'd be not-okay.
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