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Dimensional fatigue projectors
« on: October 09, 2018, 11:54:25 am »

The dimensional fatigue projectors didn't really fit into the thread about Juffo-Wup, so I am putting them here instead. Use these dimensional fatigue projectors at your own risk. If you stare long enough at them, your mind might shift to a different reality phase.



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---- REPORT FROM SURFACE ----
BUKOWSKI AGAIN, SIR. WE HAVE FOUND ANOTHER RESEARCH INSTITUTE. WELL, THE RUINS OF ONE, ANYWAY.
THE COMPUTER HERE'S IN BETTER SHAPE, ALLOWING ME TO LEARN A BIT MORE ABOUT THE ANDROSYNTH'S
INVESTIGATION INTO DF, DIMENSIONAL FATIGUE.
IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THEIR STUDIES ACTUALLY BEGAN OVER TEN YEARS AGO, AFTER ONE OF THEIR
BLAZER VESSELS DISCOVERED SOME PRECURSOR ARTIFACTS IN ALPHA LALANDE. AS FAR AS THEIR
SCIENTISTS HERE COULD TELL, THE DEVICES GENERATED DF WAVES WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE USER TO SEE
INTO OTHER... WELL, OTHER DIMENSIONS -- REALMS OF EXISTENCE WHICH SHARE POSITION WITH OUR OWN
UNIVERSE, BUT HAVE A DIFFERENT... GEE, WHAT SHOULD I CALL IT... REALITY PHASE.

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Here is *good news*!
Six or nine *pieces* ago, myself the Orz did not even *smell* your *level*.
Can you believe? It is so silly! It is such a *happy town*.
Then the Androsynth made some *slippery places* and then Orz can *smell* it.
It *smells* so good Orz are surprised!


Dimensional Fatigue Projector 1:


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To *play* with Taalo, Orz must *spread* into *Pretty Space*.
There are so many good places for this here, Orz are happy.
Perhaps after the biggest *party* you will understanding the Orz
and I can showing you other *levels*.


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I will tell again the many *pieces*. You do not know *special things*.
Here is some. *Time* is not one but many.
*Space* is many. *Colors* are many. You are so *sticky*.

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Re: Dimensional fatigue projectors
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2018, 08:07:43 pm »

None of your topics make any sense and I wish you'd stop churning them out. "Interdimensional fatigue" is a Star Control 3 reference as well so you've got that to be ashamed of, too.
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2018, 10:47:25 pm »

None of your topics make any sense

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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2018, 11:35:54 pm »

That isn't exactly helping your case. r/totallynotrobots intersects r/trumpmemes is a different direction, I grant.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2018, 02:02:21 pm »

That isn't exactly helping your case. r/totallynotrobots intersects r/trumpmemes is a different direction, I grant.

What do you care? You don't seem to be interested in helping me to save this world from killer robots. So this direction seems to be much more fun and appropriate for a Star Control 2 forum. It is indeed very interesting to study and improve upon dimensional fatigue technologies. I would rather invite poltergeists here than those soulless killer robots.

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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2018, 10:59:57 pm »

Ugh... Zanthius...

Even though it's an SC2 forum, I highly doubt that anyone here would seriously believe that dimensional fatigue is a phenomenon that exists in real life. If you do think it exists, go publish a peer-reviewed article on the subject. If you are right, you'll earn your place among the world's best scientists.

If you believe poltergeists exist, again, try to publish a peer-reviewed article on the subject. While you're at it, try to contact James Randi and win that $1 million prize for finally proving that paranormal phenomena exist.

And you raving on about "soulless killer robots" isn't exactly helping you in convincing me that you are a rational person. And while we're on the subject, I'm not at all surprised that Paul Reiche III didn't even bother to reply to your idea about that augmented reality game of yours. Go search the web a bit on how little value is placed on "idea men" in the video game industry (that is, none at all). If you really thought that Paul would invest his money in putting your idea to work, that suggests that at best, you're extremely naive.
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2018, 11:18:30 pm »

If you do think it exists, go publish a peer-reviewed article on a subject. If you are right, you'll earn your place among the world's best scientists.

Look. You can do an MRI scan of a brain that has consumed LSD or magic mushrooms. They have already done MRI studies on how the brain looks after you have consumed psilocybin:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11207979/What-your-brain-looks-like-on-magic-mushrooms.html

They have also done MRI studies on how meditation affect brain organs: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4471247/

You could also do an MRI scan of brains while people are looking at the dimensional fatigue projectors. I assume it would have some similarities to the MRI scans from psilocybin and/or mediation. But nobody has done it. It would be interesting.

If you believe poltergeists exist, again, try to publish a peer-reviewed article on the subject. While you're at it, try to contact James Randi and win that $1 million prize for finally proving that paranormal phenomena exist.

I certainly believe that most humans are prone to believe in the supernatural: https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article180980291.html

If you really thought that Paul would invest his money in putting your idea to work, that suggests that at best, you're extremely naive.

This isn't about money, but about changing the trajectory of our civilization which is going to lead us to a complete disaster. Your money is soon going to be worthless anyhow. Aren't your rubles already inflating?
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2018, 11:25:36 pm »

Look. You can do an MRI scan of a brain that has consumed LSD or magic mushrooms. They have already done MRI studies on how the brain looks after you have consumed psilocybin:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11207979/What-your-brain-looks-like-on-magic-mushrooms.html

They have also done MRI studies on how meditation affect brain organs: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4471247/

You could also do an MRI scan of brains while people are looking at the dimensional fatigue projectors. I assume it would have some similarities to the MRI scans from psilocybin and/or mediation. But nobody has done it. It would be interesting.

Except that no one but you would call these swirling images "dimensional fatigue projectors", since currently there is no evidence whatsoever that "dimensional fatigue" or any similar phenomenon exists in real life.

I certainly believe that most humans are prone to believe in the supernatural: https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article180980291.html

Maybe. But what does that have to do with supernatural phenomena actually existing in real life? Objective reality just doesn't work that way - believing in something doesn't make whatever you believe in appear as an objective phenomenon.

This isn't about money, but about changing the trajectory of our civilization which is going to lead us to a complete disaster.

That's the main problem with you. You're so utterly convinced that you're working for a grand, just cause that you have completely blinded yourself to the simplest reality checks. But hey, if you feel that you are able to convince Paul or anyone else that your cause is worth pursuing, be my guest.
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2018, 11:31:39 pm »

Maybe. But what does that have to do with supernatural phenomena actually existing in real life? Objective reality just doesn't work that way - believing in something doesn't make whatever you believe in appear as an objective phenomenon.

Sure, but Putin has apparently had great success with using the orthodox church to manipulate the Russian population. Does it really matter if it is really true or not if people are behaving as if it is true. Most people in the world are religious. Many religious leaders are filthy rich.

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/gymqgb/how-putin-is-using-the-orthodox-church-to-build-his-power
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2018, 11:34:26 pm »

Yeah. I live in Russia, and I'm also extremely disgusted at the amount of religious and anti-science propaganda spouted by the Russian media. And, as far as I know, the US has a similar problem. But that has nothing to do with the topic we are discussing.
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2018, 11:45:37 pm »

But that has nothing to do with the topic we are discussing.

Look. As far as I am concerned, dimensional fatigue and poltergeists could be real. I believe this because I have had many experiences with ghost-like entities in sleep paralysis, and I have had personal encounters with ghost-like entities under the influence of psilocybin. Of course, these experiences could have been a product of my brain, but my understanding of 5HT2a receptor agonists changed somewhat recently, and these animations have somewhat similar effects to 5HT2a receptor agonists. I have recently started to understand that the brain is extremely good at ignoring all kinds of information that is irrelevant to our narratives. So I think it is possible that we could have evolved to ignore "ghosts" simply because they would distract us from other real things, such as Lions and sources of food.

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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2018, 11:52:40 pm »

Again, science needs better evidence than "as far as I am concerned" and "I believe this". You are talking to the wrong person anyway. I am not a physicist, and this forum is not a physics journal. When real scientists want to prove that a new phenomenon exists, they do their best to convince the experts on related phenomena that it exists. It is pseudoscientists who avoid the experts and try to convince the general public instead, since the general public are far less likely to spot obvious errors in their reasoning.
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2018, 12:05:40 am »

It is pseudoscientists who avoid the experts and try to convince the general public instead, since the general public are far less likely to spot obvious errors in their reasoning.

You seem to think very highly of scientists... You know.. it doesn't necessarily mean that it is true just because you manage to publish something. There are lots of journals today, and not all of them have a very high standard. Many of the journals that have a somewhat high standard are closed behind pay-walls. This isn't very good for universities, since they need to spend lots of money on access to these journals.



Personally, I think the universities are going to collapse soon, just like most other things in our society. They are too conservative, and the world is changing extremely fast now.



Also. There are lots of taboos in science. Particularly when it comes to research on sexual differences. This, for example, is obviously true, but you are not necessarily allowed to research such things in western democracies since it is politically incorrect:





Research on psychedelics and supernatural things is also taboo. Lots of journals would deny you to publish, simply because they are scared to be associated with such things.


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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2018, 12:22:39 am »

It is true the fact that you have published something isn't a 100% guarantee that your published material is sound science. However, that is no excuse to go down a pseudoscientist's road. It certainly doesn't change the fact that non-experts are just not equipped to analyze a new hypothesis in a meaningful way, without making lots of dumb mistakes simply because they have no grasp of some basic facts known to all experts. We're talking about groundbreaking, cutting-edge research here, the kind that is a challenge even to experts. What chances does a random person on the Internet have of assessing the plausibility of your hypothesis correctly?
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2018, 12:25:39 am »

What chances does a random person on the Internet have of assessing the plausibility of your hypothesis correctly?

Death 999 is more intelligent and better informed than most of the professors I know.... Professors are not necessarily intelligent or well informed, although more so than average people. But people in this forum aren't necessarily "average". So this isn't a random selection of people. Nor is this a random forum on the Internet.
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