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Are there any tips so you can win against a Yehat as a Mmrnmhrm?

Try Thraddash. =)

Fly towards him and fire missiles. Due to your speed, you might be lucky that his battery has been drained half a sec and you migth hit him once or twice. Unluckily, your turning speed is too slow and his rapidfiremachineguns hit you definatly more than you him.
If fighting human player: keep distance and your friend might oversee these small rockets homing in on him and thus forget to shield.

Good luck...

x form turns faster than the yehat. try going around him in cirlcles and zaping him.

thats my stratagy with yehat and vux, but i think it wil work for x-form

The Yehat would just run away (he's faster than X-form) and fire away (he's got better range than X-form).  Like I described in my strategy guide for Mmrnmhrm, what I've been doing with Yehat is setting up so I'm near him, fire away, and then try to run far enough away so Yehat doesn't blast me...

The thing is I'm asking this because it seems to me like there should be a way to win against a Yehat as a Mmrnmhrm.  Maybe not.

After some experimenting, this is what I found:

Put your head between your legs and kiss your butt goodbye.


At least this is what I found against the computer, the Yehat is just too good with the shields. The best I came up with was use the Mmrnmhrm in X-form mode either stopped or with very little movement, then just fire away when it gets close. I eventually downed 1 Yehat for every 3-4 Mmrnmhrm ships which is still very poor.

Pretty much.  Even against a human opponent, if you're at a range that you can hit with Y-Form missiles, there's no reason for the Yehat pilot to not spend all his batteries on shields.

(And a static Mmrnmhrm in X form should get pummeled by a Yehat that carefully stays outside the X form range.)

So it's a stalemate until the Mmrnmhrm pilot gets impatient, or the planet decides things.

The tactical situation here is "the enemy has longer range and is faster than I am."  In this situation, you're basically hosed.  (Compare Shofixti vs. VUX when the VUX doesn't get to start right next to the Shofixti.  The Vux is pretty much meat unless the Shofixti pilot makes mistakes.)

When in such a situation, I tend to gravity whip and then wait to get close to the enemy, then unleash a barrage.  With a Mmrnmhrm, you don't even need the whip; just transform and thrust.  You're in trouble with those shields, though.

Something that worked for me:
Start in Y-form to get away from the Yehat, then 180 and fly towards them. Aim for one of the sides of the Term, then switch to X. As you go sailing past, zap em and pray that they either dont A: get shields up, or B: gun you to bits.
If the 'hat is almost dead, do the whipby, but use the X's craptacular speed to your advantage. Sail just past and engage engines. The result will be that the Yehat captain has probably burnt most of their fuel on shields, allowing you to pick off a few more.

If ur playing against a computor oponent, the yehat will try to fly right at you. i guess the speed thing would really affect my stratagy though.

Initially it will, but it'll try to avoid you if you come right at it too - basically what it does to me is after I blast it (and it shields it), it runs away and then turns around while it's still in range and shoots away.

i just tried it. the big prob with my stratagy is that the yehat has a better range. u might have better luch with a VUX. why do u need this melee match up anyways?

Well, he's under attack by Yehat, and he is Mmrnmhrm! Isn't it obvious?

but u can get ships other than mmrn-mhrn. or is this the starcontrol rpg thing

No, I mean he IS a Mmrnmhrm and is under attack by Yehat! Isn't it obvious?
;)

Yeah I'm playing as all Mmrnmhrm right now against the world.  How to survive against a Yehat without going through 2 or 3 ships is what I'm trying to figure out.  It's called challenging yourself.  Something I've found out about making a whole array of ships available is after a while you figure out your "ice cold" ships against each of your opponents and always go to them and not expand your skills by trying something else.  The game gets boring too after a while when you have your expert ships to go to.

So I pick a type of ship that isn't all powerful like the Chmmr, Ur-Quans, or Chenjesu (I've done VUX, Mycon, and now doing Mmrnmhrm) and play with nothing but that ship.  It makes it so you have to get good with the ship, and it forces you into match-ups you might not choose to get into otherwise - of course the random thing is always there if you have a mixture of ships, but the temptation is always too great to pick the ship you know you'll win with against whatever's out there.

Besides, I never knew I could beat a Kohr-Ah with a VUX until I forced myself into trying it and sticking with it until I figured it out. :D

Against a human, it will take forever. The only thing you can do is to hope he won't use the shields and get hit.

Against a computer it is alot easier than it seems. Go near a planet and wait for him. Then when he gets near the planet he start to move from left to right. Aim on him. He will use his shield even without being shot at because it is laser beams that has 0 second reaching time. After his shields are drained just beam him to death ( or to half crew ) then use gravity-whip before he will blow you up.

In the beginning it will be hard and you most likely get hit by him or the planet. But like (almost)anything else, practice.

Thats my 500$.( Don't ask me, you always say "that's my 2 cents" or things like that).

If you want a real challenge, a fight of glory and honor and death, herotic and magnificent melee, try terminator vs. shofixti without getting hit.

try killing the yehat with a VUX. when ur flying for him, dont go stait at him, but of a bit. then try and circle around him. the vux has good range for that.

Got my Yehat problem figured out.  Basically my error was staying and firing too much.  I did the same thing as described in my strategy guide, but used short bursts from X-form and then ran away and was convienently out of Yehat's range.  I'm still not that great with it, but I'm down to beating a Yehat with one Mmrnmhrm now  ;D

Captain Smith of the Mmrnmhrm Transformer .. Smith! All hail!

Like the umgah says: "Hail! Hail! Hail!"  ;D

Yea, but then the Umgah jump you afterwards....

Wait a second, wasn't Primat always calling him Umgah-Luki?

Look out Smith! You're liable to be nailed with foul smelling, rapidly expanding goo in your life support, or a direct tap from your fuel tanks to your faucet, or...worse...


Whatever happened to Primat, anyway? She just a lurker now?

I don't know, but I was wondering why the boards felt both safer and less feminine at the same time.  The abscense of a female Kohr-Ah would be a good explaination.

Well Primat? Aren't you gonna come down on them like a ton of bricks?

*SILENCE*

Sigh... I guess not... I feel so lonely, almost all my old friends are gone.. :'( Time to make new one sI supopose!

people come and go. i guess were the only few die hards left here any more. though i do miss there witty dialog, it made for interesting coversations. =sigh=

~DEFIANT

Well, we're still both ehere. Go on ya ship buildin factory, be witty!

I didn't realize that K-P was all your old friends...

Note that I said ALMOST all of my old friends. I wouldn't forget about my fellow Enlightened, now would I? Most of the ppl I came in with are gone though, and only a few like you still prowl the Forums.Remember GM? Or Omni? Even Bioslayer is gone.. Hell, I even wonder what happened to Rockasaurus Rex and captain_kirk. All gone now, dust in the wind...

Man you should write <a href="http://uqm.stack.nl/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Gendiscuss;action=display;num=1063911276;start=15#15">Here </a>

More connection to the topic itself.

(ok how you do link here like in html? Looks like html code isn't working here...)

Use the following

Relax DJ, we're going off on a tangent. If you feel that more needs to be said about the original subject of this thread, then feel free to post about it, and I daresay the nonsensical chatter will cease fairly quickly. Otherwise, behave before I feel forced to hit you with a pillow. ;)

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