The Ur-Quan Masters Discussion Forum

but it seems like this forum is about to die...

New threads has the same topic as old ones, people talk almost about nothing and mostly repeat themself. From time to time someone make a new thread about something no one talked about or newbies who weren't here think it is "new". I am here for only 2 months or some and to be honest, I'll admit this place has nothing more to offer!( except for the "new x.x version is out" or "new remix for xxxxx race")

This happens for one reason and one reason only! How much you can talk about the same thing over and over again? No new plot at all! It is a shame for me to admit it but this game starts to get boring after the 12 time I beat it.... :-/

Anyone else feels the same? I know it will piss off some guys here like the core team, and I will probably get a ban but still I remind you that I STILL think this project is awesome.

Yes, it IS just you.
I come to these forums and more often than not find something interesting to read.
Of course some weeks have nothing interesting in them, but some are very entertaining (like this one).
Maybe you should learn to be more patient.

I am glad that I made you happy  ;)

I'll try. But you have to agree with me it doesn't have the "magic" like when it just started running.

i find that this forum supplies a lot of interesting stuff bout starcon, and has good conversations/arguments about how the uqm should be made

Just because we aren't the KeenSpot forums doesn't mean we're in our death throes.  :)  I'm actually seriously surprised that the boards are as active as they are.


Don't forget the Star Control facts, and the people making plans for extensions.  (Granted, if these aren't interesting to you, that's not much of a draw.)

Remember, we aren't PNF; you don't get to these forums unless you're dealing with UQM specifically.  Thus, the primary people that are posting here are mostly going to be (a) developers and content creators, (b) the people for whom the development or the content creation is the draw (get the latest remixes, see the addons, etc.) and (c) the people who just (re-)discovered the game and are playing through it excitedly.

Of these, (c) will be the vast majority, and yeah, it's going to get repetitive.

But anyway.  If you aren't having fun, don't bother checking in.  Or check in weekly/monthly and pick out the interesting looking subject lines.  And if your goal in checking the forum is just to make sure you don't miss 0.4, then subscribe to sc2-announce.

(And if the Technical Issues board ever dies, then our work is done, isn't it.  :))

Remember: This game is nearly 11 years old!
I think this board is making great for such an old game.

The PoNaF nearly never had an active board like this, although Chad worked hard for it! (Thanks Chad!)

And if it is repetitive, so what? When i'm going out with friends, the talk is quite repetitive as well, still i do not stop meeting them....

And cinema is very repetitive, as well as new computergames. But still i go to cinema every now and then, the latter i've stopped except for some games (civ, MoO, Alpha Centauri, Risk-style games).

So if you stopped liking it hop on the net to find something new to you. There should be plenty (try random clicks on yahoo directories, the results are sometimes surprisingly positive).

Well, much as I'm pleased to see that we all rush to the defense of our dear board, Deep_Jiffa does have a point. There are a limited number of discussions one can have concerning the game really. What he is missing is that these discuissions can be angled in different ways, making sure there are always a lot of new theories to explore. This usually becomes evident when some fresh new poster arrives with yet another point of view. However, it is still the same discussion.

But, that's the way life goes. some people find it interesting, others don't. Each to their own

There is no death for a Star-Control inspired forum.  The presence of the Pkunk will always revive it.  ;D

The only topic I can think that will survive forever is the orz topic! Unless FF and PR3 will come and tell the "real" theory. ;D

i seriously doubt that they have an answer for the orz thing

Yeah, for an 11 year old game this board is really active. And personally, I don't have the time to jump on the boards where any thread left alone for 24 hours is considered "dead". I really like these boards pace.

Maybe it's not fast enough for some, but I like it.

As for no new topic, well what's to say. Give it time my man.

this is pretty fast for a forum. if u ask a question, ul get an answer withing 24 hours.

(somewhat on-topic...)

I have noticed that, too.  It makes me wonder if maybe, just maybe, the re-release was somewhat done as a way to "test the waters" and see if there was still enough interest in the franchise to warrant putting the time/effort into another sequel; e.g., print out 10,000 message board posts, drop them on a publishers' desk and say "I think there's some money to be made here."

But I'm sure that's only so much fan-boy wishful thinking on my part.  :)

Well, 10,000 posts isn't so significant as the membership count, which is currently 747. Also a count of the guests we get would contribute.

After all, if this board has 10,000 posts, then Lukipela and I each contribute a bit under 10% of the total. Kohr-Ah Primat is just behind, even with her extended hiatus.

Yay! I own 10 percent of this board!! Fear my l33t skillz! You shall all bow down to me, or I'll close MY part of the board to you!

[/king of the hill rant]

Seriously speaking though, I think the dormant memebrs are a godd indication of the popularity of this game. Even though they seldom speak, I assume at least a part of them follow the conversations here from time to time, indicating their undying interest in the SC universe. Is there any way for the moderators to pull up statistics on how many of our members that regularly log on btw?

Only 747. That's not very much. Assuming that everyone here bought a new starcontrol, is 474 copies sold enough to really justify the time and expense in making a game? I don't know.

Then again, what sort of support does a mildly successful game get? Is 474 vocal forum member representitive of a good game? Does anyone have the stats?

Well, if we all promise to buy 20 copies ofthe game, that makesalmost 15 000 copies sold already, and that's only counting the hardcore fans. Now, if we each buy 200 copies....

Without writing a script into the code of this forum, the answer would be a no. Mind you, I'm no moderator here, but running a similar board (http://forum.customc.net) to this one (with a great deal of mods on it) gives me some insight into such things.

There are some logfiles in the ./Members directory (that shouldn't be accessible except via site owner), .log I think, that at least tell the last time a given person has logged in. Of course this only applies to members, but it'd be a start to collecting such statistics. It would also be theoretically possible to process every one of the .dats in ./Messages and count the exact number of people that have posted and the last time they posted, guests and all.

Of course, all of this happening depends on the willingness of meep-eep to either implement it (probably not happening) or empower someone to do so. I'd volunteer for this task if such willingness is present.

So technically, it is possible, but highly impractical to produce a list of all members who have been active within, say, the last month or so. And possibly also guests. Thanks for clearing that up.

I think we've cleared this up

Apocalypse now! I told you it is about to die, this time I hate to be right... :'(

The technical things may end, perhaps when 1.0 comes out. We still have 0.7 updates to go, mind you.

One thing that won't die on here, I don't believe, is the discussion and/or arguing of logics, theories, strategems (as long as I'M around they won't, anyway), and of course, random bits of code slapped into pages.

I .E.: The "Whatever happened to the Androsynth?" thread. I resurrected it just because I wanted to get it to the forefront of people's minds (and had plenty of input on it myself), and it lasted about 2 months! Not too bad for an older post, IMHO.

Stuff like that makes people THINK. Makes 'em think, "What if...?"  As long as humans will wonder about things, ANYTHING...even something like the things that transpire in a game...as long as you have that mental cognation, this forum won't die.

$0.02

and ofcourse "stealing" 92 of my post to my "ships from best to worst" thread which went to "better than banter"... but no hard feeling... :P But here is a fact, people post here in the last week 1 post per day. This is not much. Period.

But does it have to be much? No need to blabber all the time if one can have a relaxed civil and slow discussion brewing for month. Discussions are like wine. The older they get, the better they are, until the point where they turn into vinegar, and anyone reviving/drinking them should be dragged into the street and shot.

To fire up the old Argument Cannon again...

Jiffa, I didn't "steal" your post. I left it right where it was. The post I started had little or nothing to do with yours, in fact. Yours was, well, you starting off by saying what ships were "the best" and then what appeared to be heavy flaming to anyone that didn't agree. My post discarded all prejudice towards other people's ideas and feelings about the ships and just told them to tell us their favorite, why, it's strengths/weaknesses, and ways to use it effectively. Coincedentally, it DID turn into a stratagem list, but it's quite useful. At least, I've learned alot about ships from it.

Hope this isn't *vinegar*. Hehe, a new Orz word.

Heh, this forum is doing quite well for a forum with no "General Discussion", "Off-Topic", etc. forum. It isn't a massive forum with hundreds of posts in a day, but I think I like it better the way it is.

DJ - I think I know what's your problem is..

You godda move on- I know your Pc preety much sucks in your opinion, but it still doesn't mean that there are other games around.

You can't expect to play SC all day and still enjoy it do you?

Do what I do- I play other games (e.g. the Final Fantasy series), and sometimes when I quit to windows I find the UQM icon- click on it- play a little, and move on.

Sometimes if I feel like it I play the Full Game for a longer time.

Anyways- either you should do that,
or you can always join www.neopets.com and play with me..  :P
( :o Please don't flame me!!!!!!!  :o)

I don't care if I have radeon 9800 pro, 2000 ram I still won't be able to play anything else with 600MHz!!! And yes I play other games too, uqm is a good game, but it can't keep you playing forever.

You can't play anything with 600 Mhz? Morrowind runs quite well on my 500 Mhz and Radeon 7500.

You can run some decent games with 600 mhz. Starcraft (+expansion) is the best RTS ever and is dirt cheap, so grab that if you have not already.

Also, ANYONE who likes rpgs should go to www.spidweb.com and download a few of their big, free demos for the avernum and geneforge games. They have subpar graphics, but low requirements and good gameplay.

Someone else here likes Spidweb games too?

Generforges also have better plot than I've seen in any other game I've ever played (at least in my opinion).

I've got a lower than quality system too, DJ, and I still find tons of games to play. Starcraft, Diablo II LOD, Quake, Warpath (not for everyone, though), Red Alert II, TONS of the Megaman series and quite a few others, with relatively low memory and a crappy, generic video card.
Also, no offense here, but if you are sick of the game, no one is holding you here, y'know...

Yes, Geneforge is very nice, though GF2 is even better. Great plot, unique mechanics (to those who haven't played, the game revolves around "summoning"), and your decisions actually affect the outcome. However, although the Geneforge games have an excellent plot, sc2's is even better IMO - and I really mean that, I'm not just saying it because I'm on an sc2 forum. I'm looking forward to Blades of Avernum a lot.

Oh, and Jiffa, if you like turn-based strategy and/or RPGs, you should get Age of Wonders 2: Shadow Magic. That game is awesome. It should run on your computer, cause it runs on my brother's dinky laptop, which is about as weak (no offense) as your computer, probably worse.

Finally Jiffa, I've watched forums die in agony before, and this one is not dying. It's going slowly, but it's stable and still alive.

Heh, try Baldur's Gate. Great RPG. Apparently selling for only $4.95 (worth helluva lot more than that) nowadays.

Finished 1, Shadows of amn and I am searching for the Throne of bhall to finish the goddamn story! Damn this magic deflection artifact is sooooooo good... You beat Irenicus like nothing with it... even the demi-lich and any other mage... Only Firkag was a problem, great battle due. Oh sc2 fans' site, not RPG ;D