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Hmm- I can't find any good way of hunting them down without losing at least 5-6 crew members.

Earthlings and Orz are the only ones who can stand up to them..


Does anybody has any good tactic?


also

Is there a multiplayer version for UQM?
I'd really like to play with you people. =)


Yup- that's 2 in 1. ^_^
Oh forgot my manners.. =\
Hello all you Star control players!

I'm going to assume you mean the Slylandro Probes. Try using a Chmmr Avatar, a well equipped flagship, a Thraddash Torch or a Spathi Eluder. The Avatar and flagship can waste the Probe in no time, and the Torch and Eluder can stay out of its way with a little practice.


Network play is not available in UQM and probably never will be; getting UQM to work over a network with a latency above 10 ms would require rewriting most of the game logic. More than two players is similarly not possible in UQM.

Try TimeWarp (http://www.classicgaming.com/starcontrol/timewarp/) instead.

If you want to get rid of them completely, you can try to find their source.

Here are a few places to get hints on the source:
-   The arilou can give you a very general but helpful hint
-   ZFP and Thraddash push you in the right direction
-   If you keep selecting the fourth (I think it's the fourth) converation option with the probes, they'll eventually start giving you coordinates. Each coordinate set you get will push you closer to the source.
-   Melnorme will just give you the information.

Thx a lot everybody!  ;)


I actually meant beating them in battle- I know you have to find the source to get rid of em',

Curretnly I have only Fwiffo in my team- since the Spathi sheilded themselves, I didn't ally with the Thraddash yet, nor with the Chmmr.

I have the Zoqfot (these guys are preety damn usless..  :-/), the Orz (They'r kewl- they beat em' for good!), the Arilou (not the best choice against the probes) and Pkunk (Er....), and Earthlings (I hate those- I never use them).

I tried using the Spathi- I'm preety good with it- but unfourtunally not good enough to hurt the Probe I guess  :(.
I'll just practice to be good!

Thx again!

Using Fwiffo against everything out there is an artform to be practiced countless times. I suggest you go into Super Melee and do several Spathi vs Slylandro matches.

As you are no doubt aware, the best tactic with the Spathi Eluder is to run away and fire. However against the very fast Slylandro Probe, you have to charge at him, ride your inertia, then turn around and fire BUTTs just before you get into his weapons range. You might lose a few crew doing this (often this is unavoidable), but you can always replenish those losses with flagship crew (recommended unless you're low on crew there). Try avoiding skirmishes, by upgrading to maximum flagship speed, and a little tricky manuvuering. This will help you greatly until you find Source, er the source.

I prefer to use cruisers against the slylandro. They work okay, and they're expendable unlike Fwiffo.

But why lossing crew or ships if you can beat the probes without getting hit with Fwiffo?

Thx- I'm already familier with the hit n' run tactic (I beat the Ur-Quans with it), but I didn't know you can actually beat the Sylander wuth the Spathi without lgetting criticli hit..  :)

I installed as many thursters and rotators as possible- so I usually escape.


Now I'm having another trouble:
almost every starship has a counter starship (e.g. Spathi > Ur Quan, Utwig > Kohr Ah, Mmmrhmm > Chenjesu and so on).

The only shipt I still have trouble with is the Chmmr..
:-/

I have a few tactics against them (Using the Kohr's Fire circle to kill the 3 defenders, Crashing iwith the Androsyn's Blazer form exectly into the wing ).

These are quite hard- and they don't always work.
But that's ok, my real trouble is that I lost my ships - I have to sacrefise at least 2 ships in order to beat those guys.

Any good tactics?
(Preferably not with the Utwig, since I save those for the Ur Quans).

Druuge. Go toward him ( but don't let him to tracor beam you! ) and start shooting, your recoil is more powerful than the tracor beat. If you want more help, go to this topic.
http://uqm.stack.nl/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Gendiscuss;action=display;num=1062686746;start=0#0
There is information about all ships tactics.

Also, Orz and Supox can rip Chmmr to shreds. You have to put a bit of effort into staying out of the tractor, but it can be done.
If you're using the druuge well, a good chmmr pilot can force you to burn several crew, but that's about the end of it.

Melanorm. Hit it with the stuner so it can't use the tractor. Then blow it to bits from a distance.

Hmm- all sounds great- I'll check it out right away!  :-*


Thanks everybody!

And thanks for the tactics topic- it's extremly usfull!

I still have one question left though: What is the DOGI trick with the Androsyn? :o

The androsynth/DOGI bug can be found here (but it's not going to stay):
http://uqm.stack.nl/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Gendiscuss;action=display;num=1066702026

A couple more ships that work well against the chmmr:

Androsynth: Cometing him is great fun, but there's a safer way to do it. When he's medium distance from you, unload about three-quarters of your tank on bubbles, and comet way to escape. A few bubbles will get through. It's a long process, but you'll win eventually.

Thraddash: Against the computer, just let the stupid ai wander into your flames. Against human, it's a long and drawn-out battle, similar to fighting a chmmr with the androsynth. When fighting a human player use the flame trails and fire your peashooter occasionally (the zapsats often don't stop it).

Finally, the shofixti works nicely. Use the tractor beam or the planet to get moving fast, then when you're really close, use the glory device! That takes out all the zapsats and a third of his crew.

You can also try countering with another Chmmr. Just run, and terawatt-laser 'em. Destroys you both, but still a fun tactic.  :P

The main problem against a human player is that when my brother uses his "special" attack- I can't use mine.

It's an input problem.

That's the main fuck.

Is there any way to fix that?

Yes. Try using other keys. Instead of A for special move for example try G.

Okie Dokie- thx... Jiffa...  ::)