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Title: Favourite ship
Post by: Fwiffo on November 07, 2002, 11:30:45 am
 :-*

What was your favourite ship?

It's a close run thing, but for me i think it was the Spathi Eluder... Honourable mention goes to the Androsynth Guardian and the Orz Nemesis.  Bonus comedy award goes to the Pkunk Fury which always raised a laugh (moron, bozo, bird brain)


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Fotsev on November 07, 2002, 12:51:47 pm
The Fury is my favorite, but I've had the best luck with the Eluder.   :)


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: -]RedDragonGecko[- on November 07, 2002, 01:25:12 pm
Thradash torch. I could beat any ship with it.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Krogoth255 on November 07, 2002, 04:49:09 pm
The Utwig Jigger with is damage absorbtion shells with the right hands was almost unstoppible


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Captain_Archer on November 07, 2002, 06:44:59 pm
Chmrr Avatar :)

0wnAge ;0


Wait until you hear the Chmrr talk... they sound awesome.........


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: blitzoid on November 07, 2002, 07:50:56 pm
I love the Orz Nemesis.

Man, I hated fighting the computer when it was Spathi... always ran away from me.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Hitman05 on November 07, 2002, 10:59:44 pm
Either the Chmrrr Avatar (The only thing that had a chance against that puppy was the Ur-Quan) or the Ur-Quan. I *hated* the ship in the single player game.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Azarule on November 08, 2002, 01:32:59 am
The Orz.  Hands down -  I love those puppies.  Between the aim-able main turret and the "INVADER"s, there's no ship I can't take down with an Orz ship :-)


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Fwiffo on November 08, 2002, 06:16:53 am
The computer was too easy to beat with damn near any ship... the Thraddash Torch could beat the computer because the computer was dumb enough to chase you generally.  A decent human player would normally be able to take down a Torch without much effort.

The Avatar was a good ship but not very versatile, too slow and short range.  I could even take one down with my Eluder, althought it wasn't easy, the front gun could only get one or two bullets past the point defense per salvo and the rear gun was useless.  However, the Guardian could beat an Avatar almost every time, as could the Nemesis.  Utwig Juggers use Avatars as flying refueling stations.

The Jugger was another great ship, I almost had that in my top three, slight lack of versatility though.

The Kohr-Ah Marauder was probably the best ship in the game for power, when flown by a skilled human pilot it basically had no weaknesses, but it's not my favourite because it lacks character compared to the Eluder et al.

I always kinda liked the Supox and thought if you put the time in you could make it a lethal ship with its crazy flying abilities, but I never really managed to master it.  Did anyone else get any mileage out of it?

The Yehat was my favourite ship from Star Control 1, but in SC2 it seemed less maneuverable, perhaps it was just that most of the new ships were faster, or perhaps they reduced its speed, but it went from being one of the more agile craft to being a bit sluggish for me.

I could debate this for hours, the joys of an internet connection at work.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Kopernicus on November 08, 2002, 10:31:12 am
Without question, my favorite ship for playing against humans was the Supox Blade.  Spend a little time mastering it and its maneuverability made it nearly unstoppable.  I'd routinely take out 1/4 of my opponents fleet with one Supox.

I'd also have to rate the Orz highly - not much was more fun than marines.

My fingers are itching now...


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: g4inferno on November 08, 2002, 03:05:44 pm
In order of play effectiveness - Utwig, Chmmr, Arilou, Orz

In order of style: Pkunk, Orz, ZoqFotPik, Kohr-Ah


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Fsi-Dib on November 08, 2002, 04:23:47 pm
Favorite? Umm... that's a tough one. I like Pkunk Fury and Slylandro Drone. My big brother worships Androsynth Guardian.  :P


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Exceed on November 09, 2002, 01:13:51 pm
Favorite ship? Hmm..

I'd have to say the Yehat Terminator... twin rapidfire machine guns and shield = $. It can give any ship a good fight.

After that, the Chmmr Avatar was really cool. At first, it seemed invulnerable with its ZapSats. Also have to give props to the Melnorme Trader and the Ur-Quan Dreadnought.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: CyrodyllEmpire on November 10, 2002, 07:05:55 pm
Let's see.  My favorite would have to be the Ur-Quan Dreadnought.  "Launch Fighters!"
Second favorite would be the Utwig Jugger.  Nothing like having unlimited ammo.   ;D
Third would be the Yehat Terminator.
Fourth is the Supox ship(can't remember the name)
Fifth and final would be the Earthling Cruiser.  Hey, gotta like the ship of our homeworld!

My least favorite ship is the Ilwrath Avenger.  Bastards always took a big cunk of my crew away!  And I hate spiders!


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: TD on November 10, 2002, 08:39:22 pm
I like the Crusier and the Broodhome


Title: Re: Favorite ship
Post by: Jim Farrand on November 11, 2002, 09:16:49 am
The Spathi Eluder was hands down the best ship.  I used it the whole game until i got my souped up Precursor vessel with Hellbore Cannons.

Once, i killed 12 Ur-Quan in a row with one Spathi Eluder!  However, against the Slylandro Probes it was only so-so.

Best ship outside the first person is either the Chenjusu, cuz they are so cool and they have DOGIs, or the Mmrymhmrr(sorry for the misspelling) because i could beat any Hierachy ship with them in SC1 and they can still beat almost every ship in SC2(it just takes a long, long time).


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Exceed on November 11, 2002, 04:50:20 pm
I never liked the spathi eluder much... its a ship that takes a fairly long time to kill something. Ships that go in and just melt others to slag are preferable.  ;D

Its still a good ship. Rips apart the Yehat Terminator after a while if you use the weapons right.

One more ship i forgot to mention was the Pkunk Fury... doing death blossoms were fun. And they came back to life :-)


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Reddish on November 11, 2002, 07:58:20 pm
I'd have to say that mine was the Melnorme Trader. Unfortunately, I've gotten out of practice with it... time to get back in. : )


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: CyrodyllEmpire on November 11, 2002, 08:32:30 pm
The Trader was cool.  Especially how you could charge the cannon.

I've never liked the Eluder.  My little brothers did, due to the BUTT missles.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Chax on November 11, 2002, 11:19:18 pm
 ::)

Syreen rule, just because it looks like a sex toy  8)

I always liked the yehat terminator, the CHmmr avatar and the Chenjesu Broodhome.  I hate the utwig jugger because it is just too powerful.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Tuomas Soronen on November 12, 2002, 04:59:32 pm
My two favorite ships were Ariloulaleelay and Ur-Quan dreadnough.

Man it was fun circling around my friends with arilou and punishing them with the laser =)

Ur-Quan's "launch fighters!" is a legend.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: norg on November 12, 2002, 05:00:27 pm
despite my little picture ...

spathi.  all the way.  i probably could have taken out the entire game (and torched most of my friends in 1v1) with the spathi if it weren't for the station at the very end.

the chmrr was great for intimidating people.

arilou was pretty effective.  sit next to a planet and wait.

i'm surprised that nobody's mentioned the sheer power of the druuge mauler.  if you could keep good control of it, or just fire a few shots, go wild speed wise, and wait for the opponent to make a mistake, it made short work of even an avatar.

but i'm with the spathi.  all the way.  


Title: Guile me, baby
Post by: atfrase on November 12, 2002, 08:06:42 pm
Actually, I always kinda liked the Shofixti... they were pretty ineffective versus the Ur-Quan, and the Utwig with a decent pilot, but for a 6-person ship, the Scout can do quite a bit of damage.  I'd wager I could do at least 6 points of damage to any other ship, without even using the glory device.  :)

The Pkunk were another favorite, if only because they were the only ship capable of a true strafing run.  And because they could take out Ur-Quan fighters like nothin.

The Chmmr were fun against small ships like the Shofixti or Umgah, cuz you could just whack em into the planet a few times, but against bigger prey I'd have to go with Thraddash, who could run circles around most people, or Pkunk, who can usually keep out of the way.

Can you tell I like role-playing thieves?  Guile and agility win against force in my book any day.  Although, it helped a lot that SC2 didn't have smooth turning .. once you got a feel for it, a fast ship could just keep itself in the dead angles where it couldn't be hit, and pop out long enough to take a few shots before cruising out of weapons range again.  The Arilou were great for this, too .. run in, take a shot and warp out.  Chilling by planets was fun against big, slow ships, like the VUX... more than once I've actually gotten people to come closer enough that they couldn't escape the gravity well.

Ah, memories.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Azarule on November 13, 2002, 05:35:34 am
Although everyone knows it can get pretty powerfull, I felt obligated to state my success with the Precursor vessel :

I once took the thing and, on a whim, destroyed every system-dwelling Orz ship within their sphere of influence.

8) Yeah....I rock.  8)


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Fwiffo on November 13, 2002, 09:39:41 am
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i'm surprised that nobody's mentioned the sheer power of the druuge mauler.  if you could keep good control of it, or just fire a few shots, go wild speed wise, and wait for the opponent to make a mistake, it made short work of even an avatar.

but i'm with the spathi.  all the way.  


Glad to see you like the Eluder so much, but I fail to see whats so great about the Mauler.  Sure, you could kill stuff with it because it had great range and the recoil was handy, but the shell only did 6 damage and used a lot of fuel.  Anyone with any skill at all would lurk between firing arcs and you'd be bolloxed.  Or a Kohr-Ah or Chenjesu would smack you from a zillion miles away.

That reminds me, my biggest weakness as a Spathi was flying into Kohr-Ah mines that hit me because I was right at the edge of the screen and couldn't see them coming... smooth zoom should fix that though ;)

I loved the Arilou in SC1, lost favour a bit in SC2, although I found them one of the most intriguing races to deal with, and their music rocked.

-F


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Fsi-Dib on November 13, 2002, 10:05:29 am
After the post I have been thinking of my favorite ship, and it actually isn't Pkunk Fury or Slylandro Probe. I don't have a favorite ship. It would be easier to name the ships  I *don't* like, such as Supox, Shofixti, Ilwrath, Ur-Quan Kohr-Ah (yup) and Umgah.

If I really have to mention a ship, I'd probably say... Mmrnmhrm X-Form, it is capable of taking out many kind of ships.  ;D


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: mstr on November 13, 2002, 11:09:22 am
I don't have one favourite. Depends on opponent and situation.

Eluder & x-wing are unbeatable for staying out of enemy range and slowly killing them. Very boring though.

Kzer-za owns with it's raw power.

Nemesis doesn't have any major weakness, and it's fast.

In singleplayer, thraddash is great for turning slylandro probes into resource units.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Aldarion on November 13, 2002, 12:17:43 pm
Even tho Mauler wasn't the best one available, it is still my favourite. It really makes your friends worship you, when you hit a long range shot straight into the Kohr-ah's black bitches torso five times a row.

Chmmmr Avatar is so boring  ::)


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Chad on November 13, 2002, 03:13:40 pm
I started playing on Star Control 1  Genesis and then moved to Star Control 2 on the PC so a lot of my favs are from Star Control 1 :)

I always liked the Androsynth Guardian and Chenjesu Broodhome.

My absolute favorite was the Mmrnmhrm X-form (Transformer).  I still have the feeling to this day the REAL reason the Mmrnmhrm and Chenjesu were removed from the game was because the X-form was just too powerful. ;)    I could kill any Hierarchy ship, anytime.  With a little luck, I could beat a Dreadnought without taking a single crew lost.

Oh, the Terminator ROCKS also!  Favorite from SC2 was the Supox Blade... it was so fun and makes people mad :D


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Oneiric on November 16, 2002, 01:36:34 pm
Chenjesu Broodhome is hands down my favorite "big" ship. DOGIs will keep your enemy on the move and distract him while sniping long range. Those shards are quite indimitating at close range so unless the enemy is suicidal, he'd keep some distance.

Melnorne Trader was propably my 'best' ship. Again, long range and those shots fully charged kill most ships with one hit. The charge could be used as a shield.

Druuge Mauler is very much like the Trader, except cooler. And you could accelerate to ridiculous speeds with the cannon, which would keep you safe (unless you hit the planet..). Sacrificing crew for battery at the right moment for a fierce salvo makes most enemies crap their pants. Except shielded ships...





Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: ErekLich on November 19, 2002, 03:33:55 pm
Kzer-ZA!  Kzer-ZA!  that ship kicks major @$$.

If they want to run away, then you launch fighters!

If they come too close, fusion missles at rapid pace = dead opponent.

Close seconds for my favorite are the Orz Nemesis and the Kor-ah.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: morrowind on November 19, 2002, 04:30:14 pm
No, the thraddash rocked.. I beat many human players with it- many good ones mind you. You just have to know how to actually fly it.

How did the Kohrah have no weakness? a thraddash would easily take it out.. get close and behind the sucker, keep shooting your pellet gun, and if the damn thing does a flame circle then just turn a bit and engage full afterburner


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Ph@nToM on November 19, 2002, 04:47:15 pm
My favorite ship has always been the Utwig Jugger, for its shear power and being the only ship capable to destroy the strongest ships such as the Kohr-ah, Urquan, Chmmr, etc.

Then I also loved flying the Druuge. As hard as nails when it comes to manuevering, but its very long distanced primary shots were fun to watch, ripping an enemy apart in a few blows.

The ZotFotPik is very hard to master, but don't we all just love ending off an enemy with the secondary "LLAAA."  ;D

All in all, my fav. all time remains the Utwig Jugger.  ;)


Title: Re: Favourite ship(s)
Post by: ArachV0id on November 19, 2002, 05:26:59 pm
Hi all, I just want to begin by saying you guys are the best ;D
This project is ... such a terrific idea ... words fail me ... *sniff*

Anyway, my favourite ships: ZoqFotPik, Pkunk, Orz, Supox, Thraddash...
however I could kill anything (computer controlled :/) with a spathi eluder  ;D And the Kohr-Ah and Ur-Quan ships were also fun in an overpowering sort of way...
In the first game my favourite was the Yehat Terminator, but I much prefer my "new" favourites  8)

I also really enjoyed using the shofixti ship to kill Ur-Quan  ;D


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Fwiffo on November 20, 2002, 04:21:48 am
I don't think I'd let a Thraddash remain behind me for very long if I was in a Kohr-Ah - I'd either power away from it dropping mines as I went (follow me if you like) or I'd whip round the planet.  Many battles came down to cunning or lucky use of the gravity well.

When I said the Kohr-Ah had no weaknesses I didn't mean it was unbeatable, just that it has no gaping flaws like so many other ships, and no obvious nemesis.  All of my favourite ships were a bit like this, eg the Androsynth and the Orz ships.  The Jugger was great and very strong against a lot of ships but a Chenjesu kinda ruined its day.  Conversely, you'd expect a Jugger to destroy every Avatar it ever came across.  A Mycon couldnt hurt a Yehat or a Jugger piloted by anything other than a total newbie and so on and so forth.

I had a mate who played SC2 on a 386SX-16 and could kill anything in a Pkunk, but when he played it on my 486-33 he'd generally get blown to bits.

Just for a laugh I want to try Frenzy mode on my 1.2 GHz athlon.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Megagun on November 20, 2002, 08:06:16 am
i agree with Chad, MmrnMhrm is probably one of the best ships in the game! i really like Chmmr/Mmrnmhrm/Chenjesu
and i can probably kill half a fleet with one MmrnMhrm or one Chmmr (if using the gravity whips)
i always laughed at my stupid (har har har) brother when blowing his Orz with my Mmrnmhrm x/y-form!
i also really liked the Pkunk, especially when blowing some Kohr-ahs with it! (and having a pkunk-pkunk battle)
also, i really liked the Supox, its very easy to kill a kohr-ah with it using the "Circling Death" mode (turning it around your opponent and shooting at him) only, i cant remember how i did it :)
well.. thats all! :)


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Eriador on November 20, 2002, 10:45:08 am
zoqfotpik. I almost cried when I heard that distress call.:(

tounging someone was sooooooooo great.. I'm obviously not seriously thinking that zoqfotpik had the best ships, but they had by far more style than any others. :]

I guess glory device was pretty stylish too. =)


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: destp on December 04, 2002, 08:18:40 am
Thraddash by far was the most stylish and the best for effectiveness vs cost.  A good pilot can kill pretty much anything with it (as long as they don't get cocky) whether the enemy's computer or human controllen.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: TD on December 04, 2002, 08:47:27 am
Not really. Awsome cyborgs are very good at avoiding the flames and any good person would just pillbox.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Zeroarmy on December 04, 2002, 09:26:37 am
Why is it that most people's favorite ship seems one from SCII? Oh well, I played SCI for years before even hearing about SCII and SCIII, so my favorite has been and always will be the Arilou Skiff. With it I can beat every single Hierarchy ship in a row, given that the computer is set on Standard (anything higher and the Spathi ship becomes too much of a challenge). And given that I don't make a stupid mistake I can beat any Hierarchy ship on a one on one battle (sometimes I need to get warmed up before I can take out that Spathi ship though). It doesn't matter if it's a computer or a human (mind you most people who I get to play SC aren't very good pilots ;) ) Then of course, when I win, there's the victory dance, to insure another win, where I make the Skiff look like it's chasing it's tail (I do this when the ditty is playing).  ;D


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Flewellyn on December 04, 2002, 11:42:03 am
Ooh, I used to play this game against my sister all the time.  We'd crowd around the keyboard and jam away...hehehe.  I got very very good with the small ships, being that A) The big ships were too obviously powerful, B) speed can be more effective than sheer hitting power, and C) I'm a perverse freak.

I came to really value those little ships, especially the ones with a reputation for being "different".  Like the Umgah Drone: looks tubby and slow, but my sis would often yelp a protest when I zipped backwards with my antimatter cone on and toasted her Dreadnought!

Other favorites: Ariloulaleelay Skiff (can take out a Kohr-Ah Marauder with some patience); ZoqFotPik Stinger ("Yeah!  The tonguing is the best part!");  Orz Nemesis (can this really be called a "little" ship?);  Supox Blade (moving in all directions is AWESOME!); Pkunk Fury ("Jerk!  Dodo!");  and, last but definitely not least, Shofixti Scout (BLAM!).  

I used to throw those ships against my sister's fleet of larger ones, including Chmrr and Kzer-Za, and come out...well, not always victorious, but at least with a large chunk of her fleet reduced to radioactive dust.

Oh, I am SO looking forward to this game being fully updated and ported to modern platforms...I'm imagining her look of utter shock when I show her my latest "new" game...


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Zeroarmy on December 04, 2002, 12:37:11 pm
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Ooh, I used to play this game against my sister all the time.  We'd crowd around the keyboard and jam away...hehehe.  I got very very good with the small ships, being that A) The big ships were too obviously powerful, B) speed can be more effective than sheer hitting power, and C) I'm a perverse freak.

I came to really value those little ships, especially the ones with a reputation for being "different".  Like the Umgah Drone: looks tubby and slow, but my sis would often yelp a protest when I zipped backwards with my antimatter cone on and toasted her Dreadnought!

Other favorites: Ariloulaleelay Skiff (can take out a Kohr-Ah Marauder with some patience); ZoqFotPik Stinger ("Yeah!  The tonguing is the best part!");  Orz Nemesis (can this really be called a "little" ship?);  Supox Blade (moving in all directions is AWESOME!); Pkunk Fury ("Jerk!  Dodo!");  and, last but definitely not least, Shofixti Scout (BLAM!).  

I used to throw those ships against my sister's fleet of larger ones, including Chmrr and Kzer-Za, and come out...well, not always victorious, but at least with a large chunk of her fleet reduced to radioactive dust.

Oh, I am SO looking forward to this game being fully updated and ported to modern platforms...I'm imagining her look of utter shock when I show her my latest "new" game...


You're so right...Small ships are the greatest. One time I was playing with my father and I decided to give him an advantage, so I crashed some of my bigger ships and my Skiff into a planet and somehow in the end he had a fully crewed Ur-Quan Dreadnought and I had a Shofixti scout and I was able to win without blowing him up (bad player that he might of been that was the hardest battle I ever fought).   ;D And in SCII I'll take a Traddash Tourch to either Ur-Quan ship anyday. Hell I'd take it over an Utwig. With a little work you can force him to waste his shields and then use your Secondary Weapon to slaughter him.  ;D

The only small ship that i can't take is the Zot-Fot-Pik. Too close range a battles for my taste.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Krulle on December 04, 2002, 02:37:32 pm
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Utwig Juggers use Avatars as flying refueling stations.

Agreed, The Avatar aint as good as many people think.
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I always kinda liked the Supox and thought if you put the time in you could make it a lethal ship with its crazy flying abilities, but I never really managed to master it.  Did anyone else get any mileage out of it?

Very easy against the Avatar: Just hit the backwards and make him follow. Use full battery and shoot his zapstats first (at the point where they pass the Avatar in your direction). Your backwardgear is strong enough to flee his gravitation sucker. Else you can still fly a little left or right. This will make him leave his path and therefor he'll lose a bit of speed. Otherwise emergency-fleeing starts by letting go the special key while thrusting and steer immediatly away from him. Will cost you against the best computer a few lives from the laser and 1 (maximum 2) from the zapstats. but nearly anytime i win without loosing a single life. ;D
Afterwards the Avatar will be like a sitting duck. ;)

Therefor the Blade is my favourite one. And unrivalled for me as well.
Although the Marauder is hard to fight with the blade. But thats by far the most difficult one to fight (due to the zoom, i cannot see the spinning blades while flying backwards and firing at the Marauder).


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Teric on December 05, 2002, 02:45:37 am
1.  Orz Nemesis
The rotating turret can be deadly in the hands of a capable pilot, and the *GO GO* marines are downright awesome.  I love using marines on slow bulky ships like Melnorme and Mycon.  Plus, marines go RIGHT THROUGH the Utwig Jugger's shields!

2.  MmrhnnMhrrm X-Form
I can't tell you how many battles I've won against computers and humans using the X-Form.  The one form has long range guided missiles and amazing speed (enough to escape Mycon plasma balls and Chmmr Tractor Beams).  The other form has fast turning and powerful short-range lasers.  The trick is to learn how and when to transform (I transform A LOT).  By watching my power levels, I can effectively turn the X-Form into a very fast, very manuverable ship with a long-range tracking weapon.

3.  Thraddash Torch
I never use the front gun of the Torch.  It's all in the after-burners, baby.  It's a shield, it's a speed boost, it's a weapon.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: ErekLich on December 05, 2002, 03:54:12 am
The Orz Space Marines are the best!

Almost makes me wish the AI used them more often... almost.

And on that Utwig thing, it was even better in SC3.  The shield would bounce the marine off, but it wouldn't charge the shield at all! And the marine's still right there so it just tries again!


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Kohr-Ah_Primat on April 04, 2003, 01:19:42 am
Well... answering the question in terms of preference and not merely combat ability..

*points at title*
Marauder for style, (of course!) because it has a brutally wicked style to it. Flinging dense metal blades at anything far away, and plasma-frying everything that dares come near it. It just has an aura of 'do not mess with me' to it.

Though for aesthetics, I'd have to say Slyandro Probe. It's probably the prettiest ship (well, technically not a ship but more an exploration satellite) I've ever seen.

Well, alright. Combat ability? Orz Nemesis, for the same listed reasons that all the other Nemesis fans in this post have stated.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Death 999 on April 04, 2003, 02:21:37 am
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a very fast, very manuverable ship with a long-range tracking weapon.


Gee, it sounds like it's nearly as good as a Ploxis Plunderer in the hands any old fool.
;)

Back to SC2...

I really like the Marauder. It seems to me to be the most balanced of the three 30-point ships. The ship is very versatile in tactics - an effective camper/ artillerist, it can also be devastating in close range with a double sideswpe of FRIED, or simply lay mines and force the opponent to run away until they hit them. If any one species wanted to go on a galactic rampage and wipe out all other civilizations, this is the one to try to do it. Oh wait! They do.

The Chenjesu is a very classy ship, and shares this range diversity, though the tactics are not quite as varied.

The Supox are deadly in the hands of a pilot who has wrapped eir mind around the controls. I'm getting there.

The Androsynth is very balanced and has few positive weaknesses. Also classy.

I love limpeting things. VUX may be weak against most ships, but I can't quite say no altogether.

I like the Zoq-Fot-Pik. It takes real guts to fly that ship.

Lastly, the Shofixti about equally good at everything, and can be counted on to finish off what others couldn't (Yehat, Utwig, Kohr-Ah, whatever).


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: RockasaurusRex2000 on April 04, 2003, 05:20:50 am
1st- I like the Slylandro Probe best. I can take out almost anyone with it.

2nd-Orz, yea, i agree with everyone else. Definetly one of the best.

3rd-Sorry but I do like the Harika/Yorn ship, whatever it is called. I got pretty good.

4th-Arilou- awesome ship, no question

5th-androsynth- again, awesome ship.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Shiver on April 04, 2003, 08:08:49 am
The Nemesis! Not only does it do a fair bit of kicking ass (as previously stated hundreds of times), but it looks like a manta ray. The fishiness of the captain and ship give it personality.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Defender on April 04, 2003, 12:27:44 pm
precursor service vechile. hellbore first and second slots, 3 weapon guidance modules, 1 crew pod, 1 high cap fuel tank, fill the rest with shivas, one word: unstopable! but since you cant melee with it right now, id have to say the yehat terminator. it held its own quit well in sc1.~DEFIANT


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: NECRO-99 on April 23, 2003, 12:36:51 am
Naturally, the Androsynth Guardian. It is the best ship, hands down. Bubbles, an excellent defensive weapon, stop Ur-Quan fighters and Orz Marines in their tracks, and do decent damage to boot. DOGIs are too stupid to go around and also die. Get a Chmmr to chase you, bubble the sats, and comet away. Comet form smashes pretty much anything. It's a little slow and regens energy slowly, but it kicks anyones pants. Only ship I've had problems with is the Transformer. It just runs away and picks you apart with rockets.   :(


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Winged Wraith on April 23, 2003, 01:39:04 am
I have 2 main styles of playing
1. The run away and shoot. I use spathi or orz depending on the speed of the enamy ship.
2. Fly close kill, and run away. This is good with the ariloo and pkunk.

The supox and the yehat are also good, but hard to master


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: yipyapyup on April 23, 2003, 02:14:33 am
planet games with the skiff is always fun , especially if your opponent is also a skiff ;D


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Omni-Sama on April 23, 2003, 02:44:51 am
My favourite ship has to be the Pkunk Fury.  I don't think I would mind if the ship didn't have its ressurection ability, I'd still love to fly it because of its awesome speed and maoeuverability.  I love playing against a human opponent for the most part, because it really ticks them off when I fly in and out unscathed, then insult them as I speed to safety.

Other favourites include the Nemesis, Torch, and yes... even the lowly Earthling Cruiser.  So what if I've learned to master its destructive powers?  It was worth the effort.   :P


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Kohr-Ah_Primat on April 23, 2003, 04:53:44 am
True, Omni, there's always the pride of just sitting back and thinking that if you were the last line of defense between Earth and a fleet of Dreadnoughts, you could safely say, "Bring it on" with the full confidence that you'd be remembered in the history books for a spectacular last stand.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Novus on April 23, 2003, 01:01:09 pm
I've been trying out some new tricks with the ZoqFotPik Stinger. With a little creativity, you can take out some rather nasty ships with it in no time, such as AI-controlled Yehat Terminators. Just fly straight at 'em, tongue 'em once, and, if possible, warp out. Quick, efficient, reasonably safe, marginal crew loss. The Stinger works nicely against most other ships that don't have incredibly powerful weapons (e.g. both Ur-Quan ships). Considering its low cost, the Stinger is one of the best ships available. It's totally awesome!


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Omni-Sama on April 23, 2003, 06:03:09 pm
I must admit, the Stinger's got its perks.  Sure, it's got crappy crew, point value and a lousy "oomph factor" (my own unique way of rating ships) it's kinda fun to fly.  I always think about spitting in the opponent's face or something like that when I spray the ZFP's little dots of destruction.  That tongue makes the coolest sound of any secondary ability.  Yeah, the Stinger's got its moments.  I love flanking a drained Guardian and licking him to death.   ;D


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: NECRO-99 on April 24, 2003, 12:10:06 am
I'm with Omni about the Crusiers, despite their weak engines and slow reload rates, they are good ships! Those missiles HURT! A good planet whip to get one's self moving, and the rotation on the Crusier is such that most shots like Nemesis and Mauler can be dodged simply by turning. Homing warheads can be destroyed (mostly) by the PD lasers, and if not (in the case of a still-powerful Mycon shot), sacrifice a warhead and blow it away, as the Crusier can't afford to lose many crew. Only thing is if you face a good Jugger pilot or even a crappy Avatar pilot. Then you're screwed.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Omni-Sama on April 24, 2003, 02:19:39 am
I used to be awesome at piloting the Cruiser.  That was back in the day when Star Control 2 first came out.  I haven't returned to my old Earthling dominance.  I found the ship very useful against the Dreadnought, or at least a very timid Ur-Quan pilot.  It's weird, I remember using the Cruiser against most ships, with a good chance of winning in a lot of cases.  Maybe that was just an illusion... *shrugs*

Of course, its speed is its achilles heel, but a patient Cruiser pilot can use its powerful nukes to advantage.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Nic. on April 24, 2003, 02:32:51 am
For me, the start of a Cruiser/Dreadnought battle was always a "race to the gravity well"  If I couldn't get a speed boost before coming into the Dreadnought's weapons range, it was a terribly short fight.

But once I remember running to the gravity well, with a Dreadnought in hot pursuit, and its response to my gravity whip was to do one of its own, which put me very comfortably within weapons range.  The fight didn't last long after that.  >:(


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Kohr-Ah_Primat on April 24, 2003, 02:36:01 am
There was also that unlimited battery code which basically turned the cruiser into a death machine.... nukenukenukenukenukenukenuke.....


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Death 999 on April 24, 2003, 08:17:18 pm
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For me, the start of a Cruiser/Dreadnought battle was always a "race to the gravity well"  If I couldn't get a speed boost before coming into the Dreadnought's weapons range, it was a terribly short fight.

But once I remember running to the gravity well, with a Dreadnought in hot pursuit, and its response to my gravity whip was to do one of its own, which put me very comfortably within weapons range.  The fight didn't last long after that.  >:(


Once I was in a battle against a friend -- me Cruiser, him Dread.
He began chasing me, got bumped by an asteroid while still far away. went with the bounce, and began chasing me from the other side. Wrapped around, the planet is between us. We both charge.
I get to the planet first, but as I'm leaving he tags me once.
I loop around and try to execute another gravity whip (no other option); he camps the planet and tries to shoot me. He misses three times in a row. We bounce off of each other; he crashes into the planet and has to spend some time getting straightened out, while I get another nice gravity whip.
He is chasing me, mad. Does a good job of shooting down my missiles. Then that asteroid he hit earlier comes up, catching up with me... inspired, I thrust to the side to get in its way -- wham, a collision later, I'm tied in speed with the dread! He reverses course AGAIN. This time I'm pretty screwed, as he's getting in front of me. I shoot my missiles and get shot again. I bounce off of him, but we're not lined up right to shoot at each other. I shoot him once more, getting him down to 2 crew. The last fusion blast comes home, and the cruiser is history.

Cruisers would be awesome fighting machines if they had a system similar to the VUX warp -- namely, enter near the planet.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: yipyapyup on April 25, 2003, 03:45:59 am
what?! no one likes the shofixti scout?!

It's hilarious how those enemy ships just flee in terror as you approach them with two switches flipped :)

then as you finally evade their futile shots and slide up next to the hull... and shoot them with your peashooter before... KIAYEE!!!

Ah, good times  ;D


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Kohr-Ah_Primat on April 25, 2003, 03:48:26 am
Oh, they're great if you're up agains a moronic Kzer-Za player who shoots out half of his ship's crew in fighters.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: EkcoTimer on April 25, 2003, 05:19:32 am
Hmm, good question.

I'd have to say for style, what would be more impressive than a tweaked-out Penetrator, with 26 meter exhaust rims. The artificial wind in your hair, the gamma rays in your face and a crew of space-babes on your lap. ::) 8)

As for combat, my own personal favorite, and I see some of yours, is the Orz Nemesis. Not many can defeat a skilled Orz pilot.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: NECRO-99 on May 21, 2003, 08:09:10 pm
Actually, the easiest time I've had with dealing with Orz is slaughtering them with the Arilou, their hated enemy. You're too fast for stupid Marines to get in (unless you steer wrong) and the laser shoots faster than the turret can rotate. Even on Awesome Cyborg, flyby, zap, teleport, wait, repeat. Marines on the tail? Just move.

New favorite: Slylandro Probe. I know no one likes this ship, but it kicks royal tail in melee. It's the best flanking ship in the game. Plus, if you can stick your spinny self onto some nice target like a Mauler's engines or a Jugger tail, they cant move. Unload batteries, wait for an asteroid, repeat.

Gotta admit too, tounging people with the Stinger is fun as well.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Shinryuu on May 21, 2003, 09:02:39 pm
My favorite all around slugfest ship is the Chenjesu Broodhome. Once I did an experiment: in a head on rush, the Chenjesu can actually do more damage rapid-firing photon crystals than a Chmmr laser. That ship is just plain nasty in a meatgrinder match (Forget DOGIs unless you're up against an Utwig and want to make him nervous - photon crystals all the way). Unfortunately, there are those who use fast ships to run away. Evil bastards.

I suppose the Pkunk takes the best support ship role: it's fast, it's funny, it's feckin' deadly with its peashooters.

The most *annoying* ship to learn to play and to fight against is the Slylandro. It's fast, wobbly, and it gets behind you and zapifies you like Emperor Palpatine on speed.

For the fun factor, I like the Orz. I love the cannon, but it's inaccurate and the fire arcs are pretty annoying.  That and it's got pretty short range. A few lucky hits with a photon crystal and it's history, and you can always gun down incoming marines if they aren't launched from point blank range.

To fight a thraddash, all you have to do is stay put and shoot it from a distance. I admit, I haven't fought an experienced human Thraddash captain, but they've always seemed to be ineffective against a patient Chenjesu. Same with zoqfotpik - they aren't even all that fast. They're cheap, and if you got like two or three against a 30 pointer they'd be deadly, but one against a big ship like a marauder seems hopeless.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: supaa-x1 on May 21, 2003, 09:18:36 pm
Hi guys, first post here. wheee!

I would have to cast my lot in with the Ur Quan dreadnought. It was the first ship I got sorta good at, way back when I was playing SC1 on my old 8080 machine. (actually, now that I think about it, it was the *only* ship i got sorta good at)

Anyway, the computer was so slow, all the battles would be in slow motion, and as a result, I learned how to lead the plasma bolts of the dreadnaught just right. I became a real sharpshooter with the thing, so when SC2 came out and the college dorm SC2 tournaments were ripping through Norman House, I would pretty much take out opponents' entire fleets with a single Ur Quan dreadnaught. People were not pleased. But I sure was! hehe ;D


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: JSB on May 21, 2003, 09:24:51 pm
Mine's favourite is the Spathi Eluder. I can't ever hit anything with it's main gun, but it's fairly easy for a reasonably skilled player to B.U.T.T Dreads and Marauders to death while dodging their shots.

Second comes the Zoq-Fot-Piq, since it eats Dreadnaughts for breakfast and can do reasonably well against most other ships due to it's maneuverability, speed and long-range main gun.

Third is the Utwig Jugger - even in hands of a beginner, it can easily destroy Dreadnaughts without taking a scratch.

Fourth comes the Pkunk Fury, due to it's superior maneuverability and speed, plus the style factor.

Fifth would be the Traddash Torch, at least against AI, since it can reach great speeds with it's afterburner and also use it to destroy enemy ships. The main gun is quite useless.

I especially hate Earthling Cruisers. I recall that only fight I've won with one was against the undercrewed Avenger without cloaking device you have to fight at the start. I just can't get those bathubs move anywhere fast enought. My attempts to use planet gravity to my advantage usually result in me getting stuck in the gravity well and slamming into the planet until I die.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Death 999 on May 21, 2003, 09:58:07 pm
Earthlings are one of the best ships to gravity whip with -- maybe the problem is that by the time you get close to the planet you're being attacked and dodge into the planet? Or are you fighting Druuge or Chmmr and are pushed/pulled into the planet?


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: NECRO-99 on May 22, 2003, 12:13:06 am
Stupid Chmmr. Although my favorite thing to do if ever I'm bored is see how many ships I can kill by only bashing them into planets. Its amusing when a Dread launches 1/3 of their crew in fighters (ZapSat Food) and each bash into a planet kills 8 of em, three or four hits usually does it. Other fun one to fling around (albeit a bit dangerous) is the Umgah Drone. For being so small, it must have a huge mass, because that thing gets going in a hurry! Speaking of Umgah, they're fun too, especially against cocky players.
One of my buds, thinking size = power: "Heheh, the little green ship is turning to run away from my massive Dreadnou-- what the hell?!!?" Good times.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: JSB on May 22, 2003, 01:02:31 am
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Earthlings are one of the best ships to gravity whip with -- maybe the problem is that by the time you get close to the planet you're being attacked and dodge into the planet? Or are you fighting Druuge or Chmmr and are pushed/pulled into the planet?


I'm probably just plain inept at using gravity whipping to my advantage. I do okay without it with most ships.


Title: Ships
Post by: Deus Siddis on March 06, 2005, 08:12:17 am
There must be three dozen threads on this one topic.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Halleck on March 06, 2005, 09:55:19 am
Yes, and this one died long ago- in 2003!! Sorry to say, but your feat of thread necromancy isn't helping matters.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Mormont on March 07, 2005, 12:21:52 am
I hate necroposting.


Title: Ultimate Evil ! ! !
Post by: Deus Siddis on March 07, 2005, 07:36:59 am
NO!!!  :o What have I done?!  :(

I BLEW IT UP! DAMN ME! GOD DAMN ME ALL TO HELL!

All this. This whole place everything. It's gone. Just gone.

Oh the Humanity!

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Let's not get nuts here, I bumped one post for fun. Think of all the things which you probably hate more than seeing an old thread, like needles, lawyers, jury duty, small dogs, WWIII, bathing, people in general. . .


Note to Moderators: Can I get a warning when I'm about to be kicked off the forum for general evilness. If I can, that'd be great, I'm gonna need it. Thanx.  ;)


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Mr.__Fwiffo on March 14, 2005, 03:59:41 am
Back to favorite ship topic.  My favorite ship is the Spathi Eluder.  It's good against almost any Heirarchy ship.  


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Fwiffo on March 15, 2005, 06:58:44 pm
Woot!

The thread I started about 2.5 years ago still lives!  There may have been dozens of pale imitations since then, but this was the original favourite ship thread :)  (well, on this forum anyway)

The Eluder still basically owns.  In my recent games I have re-awakened my love affair with the Orz Nemesis though.

-fwiffo


Title: Repent ignorant forum heathens!
Post by: Deus Siddis on March 16, 2005, 12:29:56 am
"Woot!

The thread I started about 2.5 years ago still lives!"


Yes, I brought it back in honor of your holiness. Sadly I was met with the pointy swords of extremist forum zealots, accusing me of breaking their ancient laws. But Lo, you have returned to punish the oppressors and bring salvation to the holiest of ships, who dance through the heavens in glorious super melee combat.

My favorite craft is the Earthling Cruiser. There just isn't any other ship like it, nor one as versatile. Plus, how could you ever pass up a ship that launches ICBMs like a monkey flings crap!


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: devilnis on March 19, 2005, 01:22:41 am
The Thraddash is the best ship, hands down.  Computer opponents are mauled by it no matter the ship type, skilled human players were also basically unable to beat me with it, though a camping Chmmr could lead to a standoff, and someone who is REALLY good with a Utwig could beat me sometimes.  The trick to ultimate success with the Thraddash is patience.  If they are stupid enough to chase you, they die fast.  If they hang back and wait for you or try and take you from long range, use your maneuverability to evade their shots in a hook maneuver, and as you come out of the hook, take a potshot with your little peashooter.  It takes time, but eventually you'll take down any ship this way, as long as you are good enough at not getting hit yourself your victory is inevitable.



Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: michael on March 19, 2005, 07:04:27 am
a good hunam can kill a thradash with alot of ships although a cmmrrrr that plays well might lead to a fight that lasts forever the cmmmrrrr would have to try to pull it into the world but a good thradash would be able to avoid it.oh and either the orz or the kohr-ah.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: NECRO-99 on March 23, 2005, 08:16:02 pm
It's not UQM, but when playing Timewarp against large amounts of people on a LAN, the Ilwrath Avenger is godly. The arrows don't show up on your opponents' screens for your position when you're cloaked. ;D They can switch to target you when visible, and when you cloak the targeting remains, but as usual all seeking weapons lose their lock, and it becomes quite disorienting fighting against a big chunk of black space when you've got 4 other ships breathing down your neck. Much fun.

ADD: "I hate necroposting."
Well geez, I didn't know I was so disliked around here. :P


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: GeomanNL on April 04, 2005, 12:14:57 am
my favorite ship, well that's the Chenjesu I think, as far as a fight is concerned. I get the funniest battle when I use the VUX, though, so for fun the VUX is my favorite.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: CptWinky on April 04, 2005, 02:25:11 am
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my favorite ship, well that's the Chenjesu I think, as far as a fight is concerned. I get the funniest battle when I use the VUX, though, so for fun the VUX is my favorite.

Yes, the VUX lead to some funny situations.  Especially VUX-vs-VUX where both ships end up covered in limpets.  It's like two hogtied men trying to kill each other with butter knives gripped in their mouths.

NECRO, I didn't know Timewarp worked on LAN, but then I haven't played it in a while.  Is there a way to play it over the net?


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: NECRO-99 on April 05, 2005, 01:24:25 am
I dont know about the net, and I really don't know how we got it to work on the LAN either...it was my old high school, so...*shrug* probably check out the boards there to see how to make everything click.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Arne on April 05, 2005, 11:07:46 pm
Would be interesting to see how good CPUs are against each other with all ships. I bet someone has already made a list like that. I thought the torch would be great against mycon, but it didn't fare so well. The ZFP did better despite not using the lick enough.

Oh yes, ZFP is my fav ship. Very satisfying to make a kill with the lick.

*BWAAEK*


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Death 999 on April 06, 2005, 04:53:42 am
I have set all of the ships against each other on AI, except for the Supox (the AI is so horrible it's pointless), the Pkunk (because I need to count the kills manually to average out ressurrection), and the Thraddash (I hadn't gotten around to it yet).

The ZFP vs the Mycon maintained a point loss ratio of 3:4 (i.e. against the ZFP).
The mycon were weakest against Utwig, Chmmr, Slylandro, Yehat, and Pkunk.

The best ships for killing Kohr-Ah were Spathi (3:1), VUX (2:1), Utwig (5:3), Shofixti (3:2), and Arilou (4:3). Everything else broke roughly even or got creamed.

The best ships against the Ur-Quan were the Utwig (4:1) and Ilwrath (5:2), with the Androsynth, Chmmr, Orz, and Yehat around (6:5). Several others broke even; many got creamed.

Ur-Quan vs Kohr-Ah slightly favored the Kohr-Ah. (26:25)

In case you're wondering, hooked this up in the background and didn't spend much time actually paying attention to it...


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: GeomanNL on April 22, 2005, 03:54:10 am
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I didn't know Timewarp worked on LAN, but then I haven't played it in a while.  Is there a way to play it over the net?


You could try downloading the full-release here, I'm not sure if it works well though, since I never tested it fully, but Culture20 did some testing and it seemed to work fine. In order to play, you've to tell someone who wants to join a game you host your IP address, which he's to type in manually.

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13354

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Would be interesting to see how good CPUs are against each other with all ships.


I think the outcome depends on how well the AI is written and in which map environment it's performed, so it may not be portable to other games or settings. In case of multiplayer games, it might be better to see how human-vs-human matches end. In timewarp, there was at some point a counter which automatically collected this kind of data (written by Varith) - but that part of the code was abandoned later I believe. In timewarp (and other games I suppose) it is also possible to automate battles by continuously spawning ships, but it requires some tweaking of the code.

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The best ships for killing Kohr-Ah were Spathi (3:1), VUX (2:1), Utwig (5:3), Shofixti (3:2), and Arilou (4:3).


The Shofixti? And the Arilou?? Amazing.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Arne on April 22, 2005, 05:33:32 am
Mmm yeah, I suppose it's tricky to keep statistics with all the special powers and stuff.

Did you weigh in ship score/price? Awesome cyborg skill?

Shofixi vs Kohr-Ah was fun to watch cuz the Scout is so dodgy and in the Marauder's face. It did pretty well but it took four Scouts per Marauder when I ran it. Arilou did better.





Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Art on April 22, 2005, 01:05:54 pm
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The Shofixti? And the Arilou?? Amazing.


I remember reading a chat transcript where Fred Ford said he'd programmed an Arilou AI that was literally unbeatable (at least he found it impossible to beat) with any ship. By giving the computer perfect reaction time and removing the computer's ability to make the mistake of not leaving enough energy for a warp, the Arilou's turn-on-a-dime steering and escape-from-anything warp made it unbeatable. The warp also made it possible to get close enough even to ships that were faster than the Skiff, and enough hit-and-runs will kill *anything*. The Arilou AI in the game had to be consciously programmed to make mistakes in order to be beatable.

So the fact that Arilou can get good kill ratios against Marauders on Awesome AI doesn't surprise me. In fact I feel like the Arilou may have been nerfed from SC1 -- Skiffs in SC1 on Awesome AI are pretty godly. They're only weak ships for Melee because it seems that most people (okay, I) have pretty slow reaction times and take a lot of practice to learn all the tricks you can do with them.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Shiver on April 22, 2005, 08:38:08 pm
Art: That "godly" AI Fred Ford mentioned can be killed too. They have a 1 in [some very large number] chance to teleport onto the planet every time they blink, and some ships can keep them jumping for a very long time. That's how I started beating them with Orz, actually. Or was that planet crash thing a mistake they programmed in later too?


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Death 999 on April 22, 2005, 08:47:07 pm
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Shofixi vs Kohr-Ah was fun to watch cuz the Scout is so dodgy and in the Marauder's face. It did pretty well but it took four Scouts per Marauder when I ran it. Arilou did better.



4 scouts. Cost: 24.
1 Marauder. Cost: 30.
ratio: 5:4

This is very close to my result of 6:4.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Culture20 on April 25, 2005, 07:27:45 am
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You could try downloading the full-release here, I'm not sure if it works well though, since I never tested it fully, but Culture20 did some testing and it seemed to work fine. In order to play, you've to tell someone who wants to join a game you host your IP address, which he's to type in manually.
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13354

Yuppers.  Geo had it hard coded to 8 people, but after I changed the value in the code & recompiled, it worked great on 19 clients/1 server in a single computer lab.  I don't know how robust it is over the general internet.  Don't mind the menu graphics; they're temporary ones that Geo created before youBastrd! and GeomanNL decided to start using yurand's TWlite source.  So, the temporary graphics are sticking around for a while, but they don't alter the functionality.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Almo on May 09, 2005, 09:42:32 pm
Okay, searched for "Favorite Ship" and didn't find this thread. Ran into it by accident. Note the MISspelling in the thread name.  ;D

So... my fav ship. Hmm.

I like manuverability. So high rankers are Slylandro, Supox, and Airlou.

I also like the Druuge, because I like pegging people from across the map. You should see me snipe in Quake 3. 8)

But my favorite...

Dunno. I'll play a bunch of Super Melee again, and let you guys know.  ;)


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Deus Siddis on May 10, 2005, 03:17:55 am
Yea, I found it towards the beginning of the forum. People got pist when I resurrected it, don't know why, as it is one of the better threads. People just don't need a whole lot to go off around here, I guess.

Earthling Cruiser is the best! Who could nott love those missiles. Nice SFX for them too.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Culture20 on May 10, 2005, 10:27:57 am
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Note the MISspelling

Favourite is the correct spelling for those whose armours bear the colours of the Union Jack.
Given the proximity of this webserver to Britain as opposed to the U.S., I'd say our American English shouldn't be the norm.   :P


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Art on May 10, 2005, 05:14:57 pm
SC2 was written in American English. So there.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Novus on May 10, 2005, 07:10:21 pm
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SC2 was written in American English. So there.

Does that mean I have to fake a Texan accent when talking about Dnyarris, too?


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Almo on May 10, 2005, 08:27:27 pm
:(

Noone commented about my mispelling of mispelling. I spelled it misspelled. That was intentional, too given i was complaining about the spelling of a word!

;D


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Death 999 on May 10, 2005, 09:16:08 pm
But is wasn't misspelled. There is not one true English Orthography. Or, if you want to be strict about it, there is English orthography, in which 'Favourite' is correct and 'Favorite' is incorrect; and there is American Orthography, in which the reverse is the case. Either way, on an international forum it is improper to go around insisting on a strictly local spelling rule.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Deus Siddis on May 10, 2005, 10:20:56 pm
Alright, here is a neutral spelling:

faavoryte


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Almo on May 10, 2005, 11:36:03 pm
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But is wasn't misspelled. There is not one true English Orthography. Or, if you want to be strict about it, there is English orthography, in which 'Favourite' is correct and 'Favorite' is incorrect; and there is American Orthography, in which the reverse is the case. Either way, on an international forum it is improper to go around insisting on a strictly local spelling rule.


But I wasn't insisting. My mispelling of mispelled was supposed to indicate it was a joke. :-[ Apologies to all involved for messing up this excellent thread with a joke that misfired.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Novus on May 11, 2005, 12:34:06 am
"Misspelled" is correct in both UK and US English. Are you confused or trying to wind us up?


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Deus Siddis on May 11, 2005, 12:41:00 am
He is trying to drive us Mad!!!


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Art on May 11, 2005, 01:13:17 am
"We later learned we spelled it right by mistake." -- Nigel Tufnel, on why "Spinal Tap" was not named "Spynal Tap"


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Almo on May 11, 2005, 01:44:16 am
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"Misspelled" is correct in both UK and US English. Are you confused or trying to wind us up?


*Profanity deleted* I really thought I had spelled misspell wrong. Oh My God. I'm really sorry.  :-/


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: harth1026 on May 11, 2005, 02:15:37 am
'I' before 'E' except after 'C'
And when sounding like 'A'
As in neighbor and weigh
And on weekends and holidays
And all throughout May
And you'll always be wrong
No matter what you say.

 - Brian Regan

As for the original topic, my favourite US English ship is the Yehat Terminator.  My brother and I have played many fun Yehat vs Yehat joust matches.  Balancing the guns and shields is an artform.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Deus Siddis on May 11, 2005, 05:40:57 am
"my favourite US English ship is the Yehat Terminator."

I always thought the Yehat built the Terminator.  :P


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: shishkabab on May 13, 2005, 03:31:16 am
mmrnmhrm transformer, pure owning.
this ship can terminate all ships but 2:

1) chmmr avatar:

y mode is useless vs him cause damn shield
x mode`s tween laser is weaker then the shield + mega laser of the avatar.

2) yehat terminator:

y mode can do nothing vs the damn shield
x mode misses most of its attack cause shield + terminator`s range is greater then the x form so the terminator can kill him easely.

all other ships would be destroyed vs a transformer controlled by a skillful player


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: me109 on May 17, 2005, 08:00:39 am
Hands down the Suppox Blade. It's perfect for zipping in and out of danger, strafing enemies and evading their return fire. Ooooohh, it's so exhilerating!


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Baltar on May 17, 2005, 09:40:39 am
I would have to go with the me109k4 ;D


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Culture20 on May 17, 2005, 11:00:37 am
Blade, the choice of every foogspy.
I, however never claim to be a foogspy, and actually prefer the drone.  Yeah, that's right: the Umgah Drone baaaybeee.  I love ramming the enemy into a random direction (i never really win, but I have loads of fun).   ;D


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: NECRO-99 on May 17, 2005, 01:52:51 pm
Pardon my ignorance on online terminology, but what exactly is a "foogspy"?

BTW, I agree C20, the Drone is fun for sending people cometing into the planet.  ;D


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Novus on May 17, 2005, 11:43:04 pm
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Pardon my ignorance on online terminology, but what exactly is a "foogspy"?

Online terminology? Google returns 0 hits for "foogspy". Culture20 must have invented the word (or at least the spelling).


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Alfwine on May 19, 2005, 05:06:28 am
Pardon my ignorance on online terminology, but what exactly is a "foogspy"?  

I talked with the Trademaster and he does have some information on this term, I however could not afford the 1,000,000 trade units he was asking...


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Culture20 on May 19, 2005, 08:46:46 am
Oops, sorry.  It's a term from way back on the timewarp boards meaning "a really good pilot".  I have no idea how it originated.  I might have even spelled it wrong.  I was hoping to find an example of its use in the waybackmachine, but TW's old forums don't contain data in the threads (wayback never converted the dynamic stuff into html).


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Valaggar on May 31, 2007, 06:24:21 pm
I'm feeling like shouting "Boo!" in the Oort Cloud.
I think I'll rather shout it here.
So, here it goes...
BOOO!!!

As a BIG ship I prefer the Broodhome when I'm all about winning - it's a good ship and I'm not really bad with it. However, as Elvish can attest, I usually hit the planet badly (mainly when I've got only the kaptain left).
As a BIG ship I use the Dreadnought if I don't mind being unable to hit anything (and losing three quarters of my crew on fighters).
As a FAST, FUN ship I really love the Guardian (in Blazer form); bubble bathing is fun too. And Avatar-wedging.

As an opponent, I love the Dreadnought.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Bluhman on May 31, 2007, 09:51:43 pm
I like different ships for different reasons.

The Orz Nemesis shows that fast ships with little defense do have a place in this game. The Nemesis has good speed, great weaponry, but almost no defense.

I like the Transformer's idea, but I just suck so much at using it.

I always liked the Melnorme Trader. It's appearance just seemed so much more clean and realistic than the others, with its silver appearance. It's charging weapon I'm also akin to, being a rather avid MMX player.

The Supox blade is another ship I really am bad at using, but has some great potential.

The Arilou Skiff I love, too. It's ability to teleport out of danger has saved me from many a death, and its auto aim weapon is extremley good.


Title: Re: Favourite ship
Post by: Elvish Pillager on May 31, 2007, 11:10:39 pm
Ilwraths, yo.