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The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release => General UQM Discussion => Topic started by: Juan Valdez on February 04, 2004, 01:56:29 am



Title: Original Version of SC2
Post by: Juan Valdez on February 04, 2004, 01:56:29 am
Is there anywhere that I can download the original, DOS based version of the game from 1992?  I have been searching everywhere but I can only find this new version.

Any suggestions as to where I can look?


Title: Re: Original Version of SC2
Post by: FalconMWC on February 04, 2004, 01:58:41 am
Is it legal to post a link to a game that was sold?

(I know that UQM is almost the same game, but a lot of things have been changed, not to mention the name!)  ;)


Title: Re: Original Version of SC2
Post by: Michael Martin on February 04, 2004, 02:07:43 am
Technically, no; the official answer is "use UQM instead".  Even if you ignore the parts we don't have (mainly the trademark on Star Control), we weren't given rights to the PC source.


Title: Re: Original Version of SC2
Post by: LordJim on February 04, 2004, 06:21:44 am
That is weird because I emailed Paul and Fred a long time ago (when this whole deal started) and they at least implied that they had recovered the lost PC source code and were planning on using it for UQM.
-Jim


Title: Re: Original Version of SC2
Post by: Michael Martin on February 04, 2004, 02:24:40 pm
The code we received was partially ported (and basically OpenGL based); they had claimed to us that the PC source was lost.


Title: Re: Original Version of SC2
Post by: FalconMWC on February 04, 2004, 07:24:42 pm
So the finaly answer would be yes, it is illegal.   :-/


Title: Re: Original Version of SC2
Post by: Juan Valdez on February 04, 2004, 08:06:49 pm
OK.

I still have it installed on my old desktop so I guess I will just have to transfer it to my new computer.

Thanks for the replies


Title: Re: Original Version of SC2
Post by: lightman on February 06, 2004, 05:48:03 pm
Out of curiousity, why would you want it?


Title: Re: Original Version of SC2
Post by: Culture20 on February 07, 2004, 02:18:45 am
It's got complete conversations for one reason.  It's also fun to see other differences between SC2 and UQM.  At least, that's what I still fire up mine for.  Maybe he wants to decompile it.  ::)


Title: Re: Original Version of SC2
Post by: Censored on February 07, 2004, 03:27:15 pm
maybe he wants to memorize the star map ;)

I played the game for so long back then that I didn't need the map for the key at the startup, I remembered the locations and names of almost all the stars  :D

(the original DOS version had 'password protection' in the form of star locations/names, based on a star map that was originally in the game package)


Title: Re: Original Version of SC2
Post by: Tiberian on February 07, 2004, 04:47:21 pm
Nice one, Censored... I once lend my SC2 diskettes to a friend of mine and since it was a pirate-version, I didn't have the starmap so I drew a map of my own which I gave to my friend.

About 5 years later (one year ago from now) a guy said in irc he is having problems with SC2 copy protection (I didn't know about UQM at that time) so I just told him what star is in question whenever I was available.

scary


Title: Re: Original Version of SC2
Post by: lightman on February 07, 2004, 06:30:14 pm
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It's got complete conversations for one reason.  It's also fun to see other differences between SC2 and UQM.  At least, that's what I still fire up mine for.  Maybe he wants to decompile it.  ::)


Fair enough, but they are virtually identical. I bought the 3DO version first and I think I prefer it. It's nice to have the original DOS version too, though... especially now that it works with DOSBox! :)


Title: Re: Original Version of SC2
Post by: Shiver on February 07, 2004, 10:47:31 pm
You know, you can mess with some of the settings so the game acts more like the old PC version.


Title: Re: Original Version of SC2
Post by: Deep-Jiffa on February 08, 2004, 12:09:29 am
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Nice one, Censored... I once lend my SC2 diskettes to a friend of mine and since it was a pirate-version, I didn't have the starmap so I drew a map of my own which I gave to my friend.

About 5 years later (one year ago from now) a guy said in irc he is having problems with SC2 copy protection (I didn't know about UQM at that time) so I just told him what star is in question whenever I was available.

scary


Ah, why not giving him a crack?


Title: Re: Original Version of SC2
Post by: Tiberian on February 08, 2004, 12:12:36 am
I never had a crack for it.