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I've been part of the xbox modding scene for a while, and I've witnessed many great sourceforge projects become ported to the xbox.  SC2 is my favorite PC game, and I think an xbox version would make a lot of fans happy, as most xbox users have classic pc-gaming roots.

Any plans for an xbox release after the pc version is finalized?

Oops, sorry for the topic title...stupid auto-complete...

OK - Listen, you have touched on a very touchy subject. For one, many designers want to say "Well, let me know when it is ready". I can understand that considering the fact that they have worked VERY hard on the game and then people request that more be done - it is kind of frusturating. Also, you have to remember that this game is being done FREE. So unless some money was thrown in, you need to wait on the programmers. So just be careful about the subject.  However the idea is great and has been brought up many times. Currently I am not aware of any move that will be porting SC2 (aka UQM) to Xbox.

It seemed like an enquiry to me, not a request.
But the answer is no, there are no plans, and it's not very likely that any of the current developers will put time into an X-box port in the future, even after the work on the main port is done. However, should you want to give it a try yourself, we're happy to accept patches.

I know - I just wanted to save him the experience as some people have trouble telling the difference.

This could have been avoided if people would actully read the FAQ's and numerous previous posts.  But for the sake of agruement todays consoles use CD's and DVD's wouldn't a hand-held system be much more practical I mean porting a game that's 256 colors to a system that is 128 bits is kind of ridiculous porting to say GBA which is only one step up 16-bit would much more realizitic.  On a second note porting to PS2 X-box or the Cube would force TFB to introduce online play which doesn't seem to be practical since the same game on different consoles are incompabile with each other.

Terminator:

First, of PS2/Xbox/GC/GBA, PS2 is the "easiest" (for reasons which have been covered elsewhere).  There's no rule that says you have to use every capability of the hardware (while you're at it, go pick up the Atari Anniversary Edition packages for PS1 :)).  GBA ports would require reformatting and probably severely cutting the size of the content, not to mention completely rewriting the backend.  However, of all the consoles, GBA developers have the most skilled amateur scene, so I'd personally guess that of all the ports to console, GBA has the best chance of actually happening.

On a second note, we aren't TFB.  We're just a bunch of hobbyists doing this in our spare time.  On a third, lots of console games don't have netplay.

Fourth, there's no reason why games on different platforms have to be incompatible for netplay.

FalconMWC: How do you think your remarks reads to someone new here? If I'd have to compare it with something, imagine entering a shop and having a security guard follow you around and look over your shoulder "just in case you were planning on stealing anything".
And that while all he/she was asking for was whether there are plans for an xbox version. Noone would even be annoyed if he/she would *request* for an xbox version, as long as he/she does it in a nice way. It's only the people that pretend like they have a right on an xbox version that get frowns (by the non-developers on the forum; us developers generally ignore them).
To say the least, your remarks won't make a newbie feel welcome here.

True - I will watch my comments more carefully. However I was trying to avoid what happened in this thread. I think that is a LOT more unwelcome. http://uqm.stack.nl/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Gendiscuss;action=display;num=1076608812

Well, there aren't too many PS2 people on Xbox Live, methinks.  :)

It's clear you don't know much about emulation!  It requires approximately 10x as much power as the original hardware to emulate a system, so a handheld, while much more advanced than a 386, would probably not run UQM...and what's your point about CDs and DVDs?  Nothing is stopping someone from putting code onto a CDRW or DVDR and popping it into his or her gaming console, providing the console can read the media.

Neogenx - could you pardon Terminator? Yes, I know there is a big difference, the only problem is that some people don't and sometimes they act like they do - That was one of those situations.

Let me tell u this Nintendo would recode it anyway like the way they did Donkey Kong Country, Dragon Warrior 1 2 and 3, Fire Emblem, Metroid*( side note Metroid zero mission is a remake of the original Metroid with elements of future games such as speed boast and gravity suit they also included the original game in it as a bonus feature which it  seems to me that they just dumped onto the cartidage being that they once again misspelling "Zebes" as "Zebeth" u figure someone working or nintendo would have noticed that in the 17 years it's been around more certainly in the testing phase). explain this.  and on the GBA it is clearly emulated rather than recoded seing that it looks identical to the original speed and appearance which would have been impossible otherwise.

As about compatability issues of online games. CounterStrike on Linux and Win machines are incompatabile which doesn't seem to make sense to me.

TERMINATOR - the obnoxious one

Nintendo recodes the games to run on handheld hardware, it's not emulation, it's a straight port.

You really need to get your facts straight.

Did u play Zero Mission they just dumped and emulated the original NES rom(bonus feature after beating the game once)? The others were obviously recoded. Nintendo pissed me off when they removed the olde english from Dragon Warrior.

What are you talking about?  Do you work for nintendo?

The GBA doesn't have an NES emulator in it, how could it possibly run an emulated game?

The original was recoded, nintendo obviously had the source still for the original.  The GBA could never run an NES emulator at full speed.

Very well just forget I said anything.
on a side note


I use a PS1 emulator the processing power means little if u judge to entire system judge games only (ie FFT runs full speed even 2x same for the first 2 twisted metals while  Megaman X₄ runs at roughly ¹/₁₀ of the speed producing about 10 frame per second and not skipping any.)

ur logic is flawed while in some cases this might be true not in all the Commadore 64 had 1 Mhz processing power(if memory serves) then how come the emulator requires a pentium 133 min?

I didn't understand any of this... But I have one comment:

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God...please tell me you're just a fanboy and not actually WORKING on the UQM project...

It has nothing to do with how taxing the games are, the complication is in recoding the information so it can be processed by different hardware.  No one would find Gen-1 PSX games graphically impressive, but try to run them on anything less than 600MHz.

Emulators for older systems have steeper system requirements than the standard systex*10 formula because the programs themselves need resources to run in Windows.  You can't even write a basic C++ app without needing more than 10x the processing power of an Odyssey chip.

You don't know what you're talking about, and really need to stop replying.

umm... Neogenx - Mind doing it again?  - For some reason he insistis on replying.                

Terminator  -  Please, don't post on things you don't know a  lot about,   without posting a warning like "I am not sure about this" or "in my mind" - It will save a lot of trouble on forums.

you're no fun can't u see he's getting rilled up over nothing it's entertaining really, or did u forget what I said bout a month ago Falcon?

Terminator - I do not find getting people angry entertainment - What did you say a month ago about me?

No one's getting "rilled" up about anything.  You're merely showing your ignorance to a subject you claim to have some expertise in.

Now that's entertaining.

Not as entertaining as spectating 8)

Or being a mediator  8) 8)

suuure ::)

Hey - It is sort of like beign a referee for a football game - I bet any one of the fans sitting WAY UP there would love it down here on the field!  ::)

naw its more like a boxing match. All the fans are too scared to be the referee, and they kinda hope him to get knocked out. ;D

Hey - I make sure to wear my flameproof armour - I have nothing to fear!  ::)

Well this is a generally flame free forum.
I remember one time that a new member called ur-quan **** kicker joined, and swore for no reason. Then he got 2 or 3 pages of flame from different people and each post was unique. It was inspiring ;D

Of course, he desearved the flame.