The Ur-Quan Masters Discussion Forum

I'm just a beginner playin UQM, so please help me a little:

1. What I can do with the Egg Case? Whats the use??
2. The Kohr-Ah wins the war to fast for beginner, can I change the war-end-date somehow?
3. Are there any races in the area of Ur-Quans & Kohr-Ah except the Zip-Zak-Pok or something?
4. How I can discuss anything with the Mycon? Or Umgah? Or Traddash?
5. Is there any way I could win an Ur-Quan dreadnougth or Kohr-Ah ship with a single ship? I dont want to waste all my fleet to 1 enemy.
6. How is my english??

>1. What I can do with the Egg Case? Whats the use??

Are you sure you want spoilers on this? Lets just say you should be carefull selling it. That may not be the smartest thing to do right away.

>2. The Kohr-Ah wins the war to fast for beginner, can I change the war-end-date somehow?

You can indeed.

>3. Are there any races in the area of Ur-Quans & Kohr-Ah except the Zip-Zak-Pok or something?

Lets just say that if there is anything of interest in their space you'll probably find out about it sometime during your adventure.

>4. How I can discuss anything with the Mycon? Or Umgah? Or Traddash?

Try to think like them. Ofcourse there are times when simply talking wont solve anything.

>5. Is there any way I could win an Ur-Quan dreadnougth or Kohr-Ah ship with a single ship? I dont want to waste all my fleet to 1 enemy.

There are a lot of ways to beat those ships with very little losses on your side. Your fleet can probably make up for the lack of raw power by using superior manouverability. Also the mothership is one mean *** when upgraded.

>6. How is my english??

Not flawless yet easily understandable :)

How's mine? :)
 

When it comes to dreadnoughts, there is a very simple strategy to use that works every single time. So long as you can avoid hitting the planet and so long as the dreadnought does not spawn right next to your ship, it's possible to wipe the floor with upwards of 5 dreads without taking a single loss (ship AND crew wise).

Warp in with an earthling cruiser. Some people may cringe and think I'm insane but hear me out.

Lob off two shots and thrust AWAY from the dread. After a few seconds at max thrust, the dread will turn around and attempt to come from the other side, rotate your ship, slow down, and PURSUE the dreadnought until it starts turning. Turn around and keep doing this. Whenever the dread is facing away from you, lob off nukes in quick succession.

I call this method *dancing* with the dreadnoughts (due to it's back and forth nature ;)). It's DAMN effective. Far more effective then a Chmmr is. It wont work very well against the Melee component and I doubt it will ever work against a human, but for the SP Dreads it works like a charm. Ever since I figured out that tactic I've never lost a cruiser to a dread (provided I start far away enough, avoid the planet and {once I've obliterated on dreadnought} provided that the next dread does not spawn near me).

The kohr-ah is another cookie entirely. The FRIED will cook your nukes before they can get into range and those shuriken blades tear a cruiser apart in seconds. Whenever I meet up with those puppies I tend to just warp out with the flagship as fast as I can.

Still, if your up to the task, there IS a way to defeat a Kohr-Ah with a cruiser and take few losses, but it involves a LOT of luck. I've done it once or twice, let me see if I can recall.

Fire off two nukes. The Kohr-Ah will let off a FRIED. Run away and try to avoid the blades, but dont go too fast. Make the Kohr-Ah waste his fuel on frieds as much as possible. He'll catch up to you eventually and this is where the luck part comes in.

The Kohr-Ah has to ram your ship. You have to be off center, slightly off to the side of the front of his ship. His momentum will be transferred to you and you will slowly but surely outrun the Kohr-Ah. You can fire nukes with nigh impunity whilst the Kohr-Ah tries in vain to waste you by spamming blades at various angles.

It works because, if he's hit you and you are in the correct position, you will be between angles. When you are between angles, the Kohr-Ah cant hit you and the AI cannot recognise this fact. The Kohr-Ah will continue to spam blades, leaving you to fire off nukes unimpeded by FRIED.

Of course, you'd better cross your fingers that an asteroid does not come in to upset this knife edge balance of power, because one little mistake and you'll be cleansed faster then you can say "Path of Now and Forever" ;D

Your english is quite good, understandability is always the best thing to aim for, especially if english is not your first language.

If you didnt understand something or have trouble reading a certain part of my message, dont hesitate to bring it up, I'd be more then happy to help you understand.

Welcome to the forums and enjoy your stay :)

I will give you one simple clue to beat the annoying (and hard) opponents - Koar-ah, Ur-quan and the probes: You don't get a spathi for free just for the fun... After lots of practice you will see what I mean.

If you find the end date approaching rapidly, I have two things to say:

1: Go faster (buy more thrusters at the Starbase)

2: Befriend the Spathi and carefully listen to the news they give you when you meet them afterwards (it may take a few tries, the news items rotate)

Why yes, it gets rather easy once you understand spacetime is curved  8)

I always load up on spathi as soon as I can, the Eluder can defeat nearly every ship that you fight in the game.

as said in the evil SC3:

"The Spathi Eluder is smartly designed for one purpose - running away."

Thanks a lot for your advices, but HOW exactly can I change the war-ending-date? I really wouldnt wont to start the game third time, by the way: about year ago I saw few minutes from a somekind of scifi-film: there were a boy and girl, and they looked out from their home: It was night, and there were Traddash ( :o) ships landing to their backyard!!! Then the boy said something to them, and entered one of those ships;
     o      o                \
      /-----\   Door       I
     /  I  I  <---------     I- 2.5 meters about
    /   I_I   \                I
  O           O             /
And thats it, end credits.

Yes, your english is WERY good, I thought you are all yankees or something, I live in finland (North-Europe).

Please visit my mates pages: miikah.urli.net with no www.

Pelit = Games
Lista Kaikki = List All

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   /-----\   Door  I
  /  I  I  <-------- I    I- 2.5 meters about
 /   I_I   \           I
O           O        /

You change the war ending date by soemhow getting the utwig and supox to attack the Ur-quan.

the Ur-Quan Kohr-Ah that is, not the Ur-Quan Kzer-Za
And it'll buy you a year  :)

Minä en ainakaan ole jenkki. ;) Considering the cult status SC2 has in Finland and the coverage UQM gets in Finnish computer/games magazines (for example, MikroBitti (http://www.mikrobitti.fi/) subscribers recently received a CD-ROM containing the top freeware games of the year; one of those games was UQM (v0.32 Windows binary, with speech)), it's hardly surprising that there are a lot of Finnish fans on this board.

SC2 has a cult status in Finland? I read the retro-article of it in Pelit, but I didn't know that people HERE love it that much. I haven't met anyone who appreciates SC2 as much as I do. But if that's how it is, it's just great.

I would suggest you not try to use the Earthling ship against the worst enemies. Spathi and Orz can do it much better. Also, a fully upgraded flagship can crush pretty much every group of ships in the game.

Besides that shield-users ships. It is pretty hard to trick them not to use the shields against you.

Back in high school (many years ago), my friends and I played SuperMelee quite a lot, and many of us have completed SC2 several times. More recently, I've noticed that the HUT (http://www.hut.fi/) Data Guild (TiK) (http://tik.cs.hut.fi/) room is a good place to find opponents for a quick game of SuperMelee; I've spotted quite a few people playing SC2 or UQM there. Your milage may vary, of course.

SC2! SC2! SC2! SC2! UQM! UQM! UQM! What? Oh no, no cult status at all, I just tend to be... erm.. carried away, yeah that's it!

Seriously though, there are a lot of people playing SC2 in finland, it seems every board or place assosciated with it has a high percentage of finns. But seeing as the game is way old, we don't get many new joiners nowadays. Just us old diehard cultists.

Another reason may be that we're a quiet and wiley cult, and that we only have a few months left before the first finnish Human Crusier^TM has been finished in a basement under Karjaa.

Just you wait and see.

Too bad it's not nearly as good as the EARTHLING cruiser we use in the game ;>

Egad! Lukipela used SC3-style terminology. Blasphemer! ;)