The Ur-Quan Masters Discussion Forum

anyone knows if there's a money cheat for "the ur-quan masters"?
the original had a trainer, how come this game doesnt have any cheats to it?

The original didn't have a trainer. You must have been using a pirated copy if yours did.

And judging by your second line, the answer to the question in your first line is "you".

If there was a money cheat, It'd be worthless; no one uses money in UQM.   ;)

I fiund this map to be a useful resource in my quest to gain the biggest amount of credits on as few trips as possible:

http://www.classicgaming.com/starcontrol/sc2/maps5.shtml

If getting RU is such a big issue, then that means you aren't doing as well in the game and need to learn a few things.  There is plenty of RU in the game, actually about 99% more than you need.  ;D

The map as posted should help some.  

In the old PC version there was a bug that you could sell planet landers even if you didn't have any. I guess it is removed in UQM.

Thats because (correct me if i'm wrong, devs) UQM's code is ported from the 3DO version of SC2, which is better (or so i'm told).

All you need to do is trade with the druuge correctly, and you have enough to do just about anything.....

that is not cheating

Win-Win?

I never said it was, I was merely offering a idea so that people would not have to cheat.

how very noble of you, Falcon

I figure, if you can beat a game without cheats, go for it.
If you can't, or don't want to, then cheat *shrug* Cheating is no different from save/reload,  IMHO

How do you know you can beat it without cheats by using the cheats?

Whast I am saying is that it is sometimes good to be stuck on a certain problem a day or two and figuring it out instead of going to a walkthough at the first sign of a problem. .

Of course, but remember that games are created for entertainment, as soon as they become anything but, ie, frustrating, then find a solution.

-edit totally off topic, but just realised this is my 200th =p

Yes and actually it's more fulfilling to beat a game when you don't use cheats than when you do.

At least save/reload lets you experience the challenges of the game even if it also makes them less difficult. Actual cheats let you skip the challenges of the game without experiencing them, and let you basically play a much simpler, easier, less interesting game than the one the designers made. This is a big deal in a game like SC2 that tries really hard to create atmosphere, and a huge part of the atmosphere (a huge chunk of your game time) is gathering and building up minerals and slowly getting enough resources to explore further and further out, so that the set pieces you find, the inhabited worlds and artifacts and ships, become intriguing and exciting discoveries by contrast. Take that away and the game becomes a game of sphere-of-influence-hopping, not space exploration.

If managing resource-gathering is just impossible for you, at least use a map to search for rich worlds before using a cheat.

Basicly, all you need to know is where Delta Touri is and the Druuge fuel trick, that is enough RU to do major damage. You really don't need a cheat after that.

But isn't using that strategy a cheat in it's own way?

It is, but it is much better than say, typing 100000000000 in the RU box. At least this way, they are still playing the game somewhat the way it is meant to be played.

Anyone remember Leasure Suit Larry 1, where loading if you lost and saving if you won (in the casino) was actually part of the expected gameplay?

You've just nailed the number one thing I've hated about all of Sierra's adventure games. They're like a parody of how adventure games are supposed to work, and Sierra's way of going "Ha ha, we spent ten times as much energy on crappy 'state-of-the-art' graphics than good plot or puzzles".

I can remember games where perfectly logical alternate solutions to puzzles would get you *dumped out to the OS* with a message saying that you'd done something the designer hadn't thought of. Grr, grr grr. And the obligatory trap-the-player puzzle where you don't just die for stupid reasons, but can survive almost all the way to the end of the game and find the game completely unsolvable because you left behind some crucial object at the very beginning of the game, forcing you to play through the whole game again. Leisure Suit Larry once made a joke about it; Larry picks up a totally useless-appearing hairpin because he has a "premonition from the future" that he'll need it.

Again, grr. One of the big pluses of SC2 is that while it can be very hard to play through the game the first time without any cheats or save/reloads, it is eminently possible, and (at least in the original PC version) everything you need to know is clued somewhere. And almost no screw-up aside from totally wasting all your RU or totally running out of time will make the game impossible to win and force you to restart; everything is available one way or the other (if you offend a race and get stuck, eventually the Kohr-Ah will kill them and let you take the artifact you need, and so on).

You can't even get stuck in SC2 by offending anyone. There's always an escape to get the thing you need in another way (without waiting for the Kohr-Ah).

Point 'n' click adventure games..Fun stuff...the best is always going to be Sam & Max =p

I really like the puzzle aspect...However, it drives me insane...if that makes sense...I am such an obsessive Compulsive with this type of play i will reload and reload and reload until I cover every single alternate line...RPGs always take me weeks, especially if theyre complicated =/
Deus Ex took me 3 months =(

I have never, to this day, read through an entire make your own adventure book...

Hey this is cheating but its sorta is  :P. Anyway go get the the uqm save game editor, you can pimp your ship with techs you didn't even buy from melnorme and you can edit your RU, crew, and fuel. You can only edit saved games and you cannot open a saved game while playing SP.

GOOD LUCK WITH SGE  ;D ;D ;D

How on Earth is using a savegame editor only "sort of" cheating?

Sort of like Sort of Killed him by accident?

This Link is DEAD. (a moment of silence)

That's because the Pages of Now and Forever have moved (several years ago in fact). You can find that map (and a bunch more) on the new site: http://www.star-control.com/starmaps.php

The cheat is called Beta Scorpii

Man, time really flies sometimes.

And some things stay the same.  I started reading the thread without looking at the dates, thinking to myself "Money isn't used in UQM", only to discover I'd posted the same response seven years ago.

Well, some things change, or I'd have had the very first, third, fifth and seventh reply to the thread :)