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I smell a noob :D

No doubt. But, hey, a helpful sort of noob.

There are helpful noobs? =p JK...Welcome!

didnt we used to hold noobs by there feet and make them tell us all there dirty little secrets? ;D if anything else we can see how much change this one has. ;)

~DEFIANT

Im full of info bout the game!!!! ask me ANYTHING  ;D ;D ;D ;

Why is it called star control?

What was the year when Androsynths started their rebellion?

Wrong ::)

*puts on his nerd glasses* StarCon, is a direct play on words of the older game Archon, which i'm told is similar in play.

Bingo, you win an excuse to post pointlessly and up your post count!

What evidence do we have for the StarCon/Archon connection? They're made by totally different companies, have pretty different gameplay even though they're in the same subgenre of turn-based strategy with action encounters, and Star Control was always officially called "Star Control" -- StarCon is a totally unofficial nickname. It only actually became a game name when they decided to call Star Control 4 that to make it sound cooler.

I can't think of any particular reason for Star Control to be called that except that the original version was an expanding, territory-control game where you did, indeed, seek to control more stars than your opponent. (Of course we all know the game-story explanation about how the Earth faction of the Alliance is named after the original space-based military body of the UN that primarily served as a peacekeeping and police force directing the colonization efforts.)

Ach, never mind, just found this thing:

http://uqm.stack.nl/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Gendiscuss;action=display;num=1052236603

Who'dathunkit.

Ripped shamelessly...

Game. Set. Match, Art =p

Post count upperer!

Wasn't the executable named starcon2.exe?

Thief 3's exe is T3main.exe, so I doubt thats the real reason/

I'm not saying that's the reason, just evidence that the authors used the nickname starcon

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Star Control was always officially called "Star Control" -- StarCon is a totally unofficial nickname. It only actually became a game name when they decided to call Star Control 4 that to make it sound cooler.

Actually, I think that the StarCon name came eariler; possibly as a result
of the old DOS filenames being starcon and starcon2. DOS filenames
were limited to 8 characters, and star control wouldn't fit. After you
type "starcon" enough, it starts to stick.

Yeah, but in the *game* it was Star Control...

I mean, DOS filename length limits are responsible for a lot of nicknames. Rise of the Triad became Rott, and all that.

Its amazing how little I know about all this older tech...I feel like I missed out on so much =/

It seems that super-long-range communication through Hyperspace is fairly difficult. The only example we have is the Melnorme picking up your signals with the Umgah or Burvix Caster, and we don't know what strange tech they have, nor do we know where exactly they are at all times (how the heck do they keep moving from supergiant star to supergiant star?) But the best the ZFP can do is to go to Rigel and, from there, send a signal that's so diffuse by the time it gets to you that Hayes has no idea what it means.

True, the Kzer-Za could have more advanced tech, but I still think it's unlikely that the whole Kzer-Za fleet could conference (or could relay a message to wherever their Supreme Leader is) in the time it takes for the Kzer-Za captain to talk to you.

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Its amazing how little I know about all this older tech...I feel like I missed out on so much =/

Count yourself lucky. You're not missing much.

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Edit: My apologies to any FreeDOS fans/developers.

They don't. There are 9 Melnorme traders in supergiant systems. If you kill one, it won't appear any more in that system, but there will be the others in the other supergiant systems.

...And yet this is not reflected in the conversations, where it's basically assumed that every time you talk to him he's Trade Master Greenish with a Subordinate Ochre (even though this isn't reflected in the combat screens). He certainly seems to remember previous conversations with you, saying things like "We have to stop meeting like this" when you run into him in Hyperspace, and so on.

This should probably just be seen as a collision between SC2's game-features and story-features, like the unusual degree of continuity in conversations with all aliens of the same species you encounter. (Sure, they can monitor nearby transmissions, but how does each new VUX captain know so much about what I said to the other VUX that I just blew up?)