The Ur-Quan Masters Discussion Forum

hi guys :)

after mastering IE, Mozilla, and now Firefox 1.0, ive turned to Opera to continue my browser educational experience. but that little venture has encountered a big fat road block. when i try to access the forums here at this great community i call home, i cant. opera times out after about 15 seconds with the error Network and the address "http://uqm.stack.nl/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl". i can, however, access every other link in this site with quickness and ease. ive tried adjusting my cookies but the default settings are pretty open. im not sure about anything under network in operas preferences, but i messed with just about ever setting there is, to no effect. if anyone using this browser could please give me a hand configuring it, id be much obliged.

~DEFIANT

It shouldn't need configuring. I've been using Opera for years now, and I've never had any problems with this site.

could zone alarm be restricting the site? opera has been given access so im pretty sure thats not the problem. hmmm ill try a uninstall and reinstall and see that leads me. thanks Tilt for the reply.

~DEFIANT

I'm using Opera pretty much out-of-the-box right now. So, in short,
I can't think of anything that might help. It is a sexy browser.

still no joy. heres my error window message:

Network problem

The page is currently not available for Opera to display. Please check the following:
Are your proxy settings correct? Is a proxy required to connect to the Internet? Have you tried disabling proxies? Check that the hostname, IP address and port number is correct.
Try enabling Synchronous DNS if it is disabled and disable it if it is enabled, in Opera's Network preferences.
Are you using Internet security software, such as ZoneAlarm or Norton Internet Security? Is this software properly configured? What happens if you disable this software?
Are you behind a firewall on your LAN?
Does other software work? Other browsers? E-mail clients? If not, this is not an Opera related problem.

If you are on a dialup connection, check the dialup properties for your connection and under Server types, make sure it is set to log on to the network.

this really stating to erk me, its the only bookmarked page that i cant access. grrrr!

~DEFIANT

Stupid thought #1.
Try to empty your cache and history. Then, delete the bookmark.
No, really, try it. Then close Opera, re-open it and type in the
address manually. If it works, then bookmark it. If not, well, then I enjoyed
wasting your time.

thanks zeep, but still no access. it weird, in order for me to stay logged on here in IE, Mozilla, or Firefox, i need to give access to 3rd party cookies to uqm.stack.nl in zonealram. without access ill always have to renenter my account name and password. otherwise, im a ok when it has access.

ive tried turning off zone alarm and that does nothing. i really cant think of anything that would restrict network settings for just this forum. it starts to download, hangs, then times out. is maybe the code screwed up? i guess if it was then firefox would have the same problem. well if i cant find a solution, then im going to stick with firefox, as ive yet to encounter a site i cant access lest its windows update, wich i keep IE for. man, and i really wanted to use this browser, it has some rather nice features i liked. maybe ill post at there site, but if you guys have no problems, then it has to be something on my end i would suppose. so i doubt they would have any info. well thanks for your help guys. let me know if you come up with anything else.

~DEFIANT

Do the other sites hosted on uqm.stack.nl work, the Ultronomicon and the UQM bug database?

As what browser have you told Opera to identify itself? (it's quickly accessible under F12).

Also, may I assume you are running it on Windows? What version (of Opera)?

I've been using Opera on this site ever since we started it and the only problem I recall having with this site was when it didn't want to save my login info, but that turned out to be because the system date was a year in the future (so cookies would be expired as they were issued).

Hmm, I have Opera IDing itself as IE 6.0. Oh, do you allow for
refering/re-direction? Do you allow JavaScript?

nope, i was wrong, i cant access thoes either. same time out issure as before. so if its the site, any ideas as to why or at least why me...hahaha.



ive tried all options, same thing happens.



windows xp pro sp2 and a few minor updates.

i tried the release version 7.54 i think it is. then saw the build 7.6 preview, thinking maybe it was a bug so i switched to the preview version. should i go back?

~DEFIANT



yes and yes.

heres an interesting thing i found. when i enable the eveball icon(view), i was messing around with the "user mode", i then toggled show images and links only and the text links for "news", "forums", "wiki", "bugdata base", and "ultronomicon" all are red text and all have a line throught them. what does that mean? these are all the links that time out. i feel where getting closer to the bottom of this mystery. oh how i do love a good mystery ;)

~DEFIANT

well, i did a full reinstall of windows. not because i wanted to see if opera would work (which it does as I'm making this post from said browser, ya!) but because i updated my ati drivers. which caused my pc to loop reboot... *smacks head* DOH! so i would like to thank you all for taking time to help me sort this issue out. THANK YOU! now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to take this thing for a spin *revs up and squeals tires* SEE YOU ALL ON THE FLIP SIDE!! vvveeeerrrrrooooommmmmm... =loud crashing sound, breaking glass= ...just kidding:P

~DEFIANT

ps: i did happen to use a program called xplite, that lets you remove components from windows (msn, messenger, windows restore, ect...). maybe i might of removed something opera needed. just an after thought. hmmm...

Glad it's up and running. Welcome to Opera.

It may have had something to do with ipv6. uqm.stack.nl has both an ipv4 and an ipv6 address, while most servers on the net still only use ipv4. Perhaps your Windows mistakenly used ipv6 when it noticed uqm.stack.nl supported it, but couldn't connect as your ISP probably doesn't support it yet.

you may be right on that because i did have ipv6 installed and enabled to make sure i could use both. I'm going to do a little test and reinstall ipv6. if it fails, then we have a winner. ill let you all know what i find.

~DEFIANT

confirmed. it was ipv6, meep. I'm just curious why firefox would let me in and not opera? any ideas?

also, do i need ipv6, or am i OK with the old ipv4?

again, thanks everyone. operas kinda growing on me. ahhhhhh!!! GET IT OFF!! GET IT OFF!! ;D

~DEFIANT

Maybe the firefox you have doesn't support ipv6. Or maybe it tries both when the other side supports both, and maybe Opera doesn't.

You can only use ipv6 if your ISP supports ipv6 (or you're doing special work with ipv6-over ipv4 tunnels). Most ISPs don't support it though, in which case you shouldn't bother. The ipv6 protocol is supposed to replace ipv4 at some point, but it will likely take years away before it is supported globally.