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The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release => General UQM Discussion => Topic started by: Clay on November 14, 2004, 09:51:54 pm



Title: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creature
Post by: Clay on November 14, 2004, 09:51:54 pm
(mild spoiler warnings)

I am currently doing my best to play SCII without the benefit of FAQs or guides of any kind.  I did watch my bro play as a kid, so I remember certain things.  (Such as the location of the Syreen homeworld)  However, I will not act on my memories unless I discover them in-game.  (The Arilou revealed this homeworld to me)

However, in the case of  Admiral Zex, he hints his creature is found in a star system relating to this text "Basked in a yellow light, Linch nas ploh, the long thin creature who has swallowed the huge beast."

I tried visiting star systems with serpentine names, which didn't work, and eventually went with the rational that it a star cluster shaped as a snake with some yellow stars.  However, these criteria seems to fit hundreds, and I relented and looked up the location.

I'm just inquiring if there is any other hint to the location I missed?  I can go track it down now if I knew. ^_^;

P.S  while writing this, I noticed "linch nas" sounds SORT of like lyncas.  Is this the hint I was missing?


Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: FalconMWC on November 14, 2004, 10:35:21 pm
After you make allies with the Thraddash, talk to them.


Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: VOiD on November 14, 2004, 10:51:43 pm
The clue is easier to grasp if you look at the original map that came in the retail box of SC2: http://www.classicgaming.com/starcontrol/sc2/images/sc2_color_map.jpg.


Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: spamspamspameggsandspam on November 14, 2004, 11:09:05 pm
It really does look like a cartoon snake that swallowed an elephant.


Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: Clay on November 15, 2004, 05:23:40 am
Ah, thank you for the map.  I actually owned the old SCII...but that was a long time ago.  It does make more sense now.

That said, another related question.

Is there any information in the game that you MUST procure from the Melnorme?  Or can everything be learned through interactions with other alien races?


Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: Captain_Smith on November 15, 2004, 06:38:21 am
No, everything you need to know can be learned through interactions with the aliens (or Hayes) rather easily.  There's a couple of things that are rough to figure out if you don't connect the dots too well (Zex's creature not being one of them), but if you can't connect the dots the Melnorme can tell them to you.

Maybe the best thing if you want to play through just using the alien races is to wait until you get stuck and then talk with the Melnorme and pay for facts.  The advantage of the Melnorme is that their clarity far and exceeds the other clues many times.   But it's always a feather in the cap to figure out the game without the Melnorme's hints.

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Is there any information in the game that you MUST procure from the Melnorme?  Or can everything be learned through interactions with other alien races?



Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: Megagun on November 15, 2004, 03:11:53 pm
I think you can actually learn a LOT from the Pkunk, too...... If you know how to decypher what they say... :P


Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: Death 999 on November 15, 2004, 09:44:10 pm
Not that it matters, but you can get a very strong hint as to the location of the Syreen from Fwiffo. He says they're bottled up in the 'Bugsquirt' system or something like that.

So you didn't need to wait for the Arilou.


Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: AnonomouSpathi on November 16, 2004, 07:20:51 am
Out of curiousity, which race gives you the info on what actually happened to syra?   I always end up buying the info from the melnorme so the conversation option to tell Talana about the egg sacs appears.


Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: FalconMWC on November 16, 2004, 07:49:45 am
The Mycon - but you have to ask the right thing at the right place. (at their homeworld I believe...)


Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: Captain_Smith on November 16, 2004, 03:29:05 pm
The Mycon aren't into deception at all, so if you come up with the right question given what you know in the game, you can ask it to them and they'll be very truthful with you.  Of course, you got to find the right group of Mycon and after you ask them the question they might want to be unfriendly and eliminate the clog in Juffo-Wup (namely you).  But that's how you find this out in the game without talking with the Melnorme.

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Out of curiousity, which race gives you the info on what actually happened to syra?  



Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: Cronos on November 19, 2004, 08:43:48 am
A nice little point in humour, if you threaten Fwiffo in a certain way he'll give you a set of dummy coordinates that lead right to the beast. Kind of funny :)


Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: Zeep-Eeep on November 19, 2004, 05:44:27 pm
Isn't he a useful guy? I just want to hug him....well, maybe if he
didn't have all those claws.


Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: Sander Scamper on November 19, 2004, 06:52:12 pm
Hes smarter than he looks =p


Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: Novus on November 20, 2004, 12:00:46 am
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A nice little point in humour, if you threaten Fwiffo in a certain way he'll give you a set of dummy coordinates that lead right to the beast. Kind of funny :)

The neat thing is, he gives you the real co-ordinates first and then the fake ones if you lean on him, which is the direct opposite to what most people (at least humans) do in this sort of situation. Cunning little fella, isn't he?


Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: Sander Scamper on November 20, 2004, 06:06:50 pm
Of course, he may have been resigned to his fate of torture immediately upon seeing your weapons of moon destroying might, and revealed the location of Spathiwa to get it over with... and when you lean on him, he gets a bit pissed off and lies =p


Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: Clay on November 23, 2004, 05:40:23 am
Hello, it's me again. ^^

I just wanted to know how you learn the location of your home planet, Unzervalt, in the game.  I''ve only heard it mentioned in passing by several races.

(Like before, I only want to know HOW to learn, rather than the actual location.)


Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: meep-eep on November 23, 2004, 06:05:58 am
One of the first things the starbase commander says is
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Hmmm... you know, come to think of it there were some rumors that Corridor Nine, the special operations division of Star Control was directing some hush-hush operation near Androsynth space.
The Vela star system... yes, that would be the right direction

This is after you say "We are the survivors of a Star Control science research team to the Vela star system."

Vela is on the in-game map, though you have to zoom in a couple of times to see it. It's much clearer on the paper map that came with the game.



Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: Clay on November 23, 2004, 06:28:07 am
That would explain my confusion. I  played up to befriending the Spathi and quit for 6 months or so, only to continue from this point.  No wonderI didn't remember ^^:


Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: Cronos on November 23, 2004, 01:10:20 pm
Hint: It's near a supergiant star ;)


Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: Scott on December 02, 2004, 06:27:11 am
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Hello, it's me again. ^^

I just wanted to know how you learn the location of your home planet, Unzervalt, in the game.  I''ve only heard it mentioned in passing by several races.

(Like before, I only want to know HOW to learn, rather than the actual location.)


Well, I think the opening movie thing that's not in UQM yet says it. Not that it really matters, you can't do anything there.


Title: Re: The Vux, the Shofixti, and the Beautiful Creat
Post by: Fossaman on December 08, 2004, 10:58:03 pm
Yes, there is something you can do there. You can blast an Ur-Quan into little tiny cosmic bits. That's almost ALWAYS worth doing.