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Title: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Frungy - Sport of kings on January 03, 2006, 10:39:58 pm
What is Frugy, this wonderful sport of kings? What do you need to play it? Who is leading in Interstellar Frungy League? OK, I know that there  is no real rules or anything known about Frungy, so why don't we simply make it? It would be great if we could have a Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Mastersm, but we first have to choose what will Frungy be, it's rules, equipment, etc. Since I am not registired (yet) I cannot post poll's. Simple say what you think. So, should Frungy be similar to:
football
basketball
soccer
chess
tennis
or some strange telephatic game that only Pik can play (at least I think that brown guy is a Pik)


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Draxas on January 04, 2006, 12:03:58 am
I think half the fun of Frungy is not actually knowing anything about it. The Blue guy (Somehow I always saw him as the Fot, despite what are likely vehement denials to the contrary) talks so enthusiastically about it, and then Green (Zoq?) shuts him down before you can get any details... And so we're all left wondering, what exactly IS Frungy, the sport of Kings?

Making a minigame of it would spoil the mystique of this wonderful game forever, leaving it just another tired old football or basketball.

Then again, I think the other half of the fun with Frungy is contemplating exactly HOW a creature like Blue would play any sports at all. Does he manipulate... Well, whatever equipment Frungy uses, with his tongue or what?


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Zeep-Eeep on January 04, 2006, 02:02:02 am
If there were to be a Frugy game, I think it would
include, but not limited to...
a combination of a potato sack race, juggling
and snake&ladders.


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Culture20 on January 04, 2006, 02:02:20 am
Green=Zoq
Brown=Fot
Blue=Pik
That's why the "who's the Fot?" joke is so funny.

If there were to be a Frugy game, I think it would
include, but not limited to...
Edit:  It should also include SC2:UQM   ::)


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Zeep-Eeep on January 04, 2006, 03:37:43 pm
Oh and an element of Capture The Flag.

I'm not a Fot!


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Data on January 05, 2006, 09:34:56 pm
Whoopse, I thought blue guy was Fot, but I somehow mixed up the color. Yes, I'm Frungy - Sport of Kings ( I accidentali wrote this nickname) and I'm registered now. I just wanted to see what you guys see.


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Censored on January 06, 2006, 12:43:24 am
Green=Zoq
Brown=Fot
Blue=Pik
That's why the "who's the Fot?" joke is so funny.

I don't get the joke.


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Draxas on January 06, 2006, 04:45:58 am
The fact that Green and Blue fight about it and use the term as an insult, and neither one of them is actually the Fot? Add in the fact that Brown probably knows that it's the Fot, and can't (or won't) say so.

I guess it's sort of funny... But I still think Blue is the Fot. :P


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Death 999 on January 09, 2006, 05:31:54 pm
Hey! I just figured out how to make a frungy game.

So, you start a franchise. You hire players for various positions with bizarre names, keep track of their statistics which you can't quite figure out what they mean, and so forth. Each time you start a franchise, the relevance of the various statistics -- and even what the statistics ARE changes, so you have to figure out afresh what a winning team looks like.

What do you think?

For example:

PotKop (Pik)
Loop average: 3.9
Time to Defractate: 3.2 sec
Total passing (from/around): 16/312
Lesser Wiffles: 1
Greater Wiffles (abridged): 0 (1)
Augments (reversed): 30 (2)
Intractations: 3
~~~
Fielded as: center mid-flogsetter


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Draxas on January 09, 2006, 09:48:30 pm
I can see it now:

Kohr-Ah Marauder captain: "We will destroy your planet now."
Frungy Manager / Starship Captain: "No! I still haven't figured out how to improve my Loop Average!"


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: meep-eep on January 10, 2006, 12:57:16 am
Death 999: I didn't think it was a good idea to have a Frungy game, because it should remain obscure, for the joke to keep working. Your idea however would work very nicely. It would even make it more mysterious.


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Culture20 on January 10, 2006, 01:10:41 am
So, you start a franchise. You hire players for various positions with bizarre names, keep track of their statistics which you can't quite figure out what they mean, and so forth. Each time you start a franchise, the relevance of the various statistics -- and even what the statistics ARE changes, so you have to figure out afresh what a winning team looks like.

What do you think?
(http://www.guinness.com/NR/rdonlyres/D82206F9-E43B-4AA9-BE4D-3A75140BC5A0/0/ads_lbb_grab3.jpg)Brilliant!


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Halleck on January 10, 2006, 01:14:55 am
That's the only proposal I've heard so far that could possibly satisfy everyone.
Ingenious.


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: OmegaPaladin on January 16, 2006, 10:29:31 pm
Hey! I just figured out how to make a frungy game.

So, you start a franchise. You hire players for various positions with bizarre names, keep track of their statistics which you can't quite figure out what they mean, and so forth. Each time you start a franchise, the relevance of the various statistics -- and even what the statistics ARE changes, so you have to figure out afresh what a winning team looks like.

What do you think?

For example:

PotKop (Pik)
Loop average: 3.9
Time to Defractate: 3.2 sec
Total passing (from/around): 16/312
Lesser Wiffles: 1
Greater Wiffles (abridged): 0 (1)
Augments (reversed): 30 (2)
Intractations: 3
~~~
Fielded as: center mid-flogsetter

That, sir, is awesome!  It would give you the feling that you are playing some wacky alien game.  I'd imagine it would involve one of each species on a team in play.


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Draxas on January 17, 2006, 02:44:29 am
Not necessarily. I should say it would involve a random number of players per team, which changes each game, and each of the three species would have bonuses and penalties to each stat, to reflect the particular strengths and weaknesses of Zoq, Fot, and Pik in a game of Frungy.

Of course, figuring out a good balance of players would be just as challenging as figuring out what all those statistics even mean in the first place. ;D


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Halleck on January 17, 2006, 03:21:43 am
Of course, figuring out a good balance of players would be just as challenging as figuring out what all those statistics even mean in the first place. ;D
Don't forget- during fifth quarter wikpik rounds, you should pick the players with the highest loop average to counter your opponent's possible advantage from having a higher unabridged Greater Wiffiles count.  ;D


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Clay on January 17, 2006, 03:29:41 am
If the game were mostly text-based (as it sounds like it is)...I might could hack out something playable in Visual Basic.

A coherent outline of gameplay would be required though.  ;D


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Death 999 on January 17, 2006, 04:31:58 pm
It's going to be more challenging than that, since you need the ability to generate random play flows dynamically!

I was thinking that the meta-playflow would be maintained: you get to draft one player from each other team in the league, but each team gets to 'protect' two of their players. By seeing what they protect, you get your first hint at what attributes might be important for each position.

This of course requires that the computer be able to figure out, given the random game rules, what attributes are most important for each position!!!!!!

It would be hard to do in the way I envision, at least...

::sigh::

Maybe a starting mockup with the same underlying rules, just flipping around the attributes, can be made. And skip having the draft selection...


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Clay on January 17, 2006, 04:54:25 pm
I'm not exactly the best programmer, either.  It took me days to generate a dice-roller for my pen and paper RPG.  (To my credit, the game uses a severely wonky mechanic that is difficult to program.  Basically, you roll X dice and add doubles (or triples, and so forth).

Either way, it's the kind of game you should have a complete outline for before starting, stuff like list of all stats, how the game turn progresses, vague estimations of likelihood of various random effects, stuff like that.

As it stands, I have a vague idea of how the game works, but nothing concrete enough to actually give it a shot.


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: gliffor on January 22, 2006, 06:31:26 pm
how can ı plat this game?


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Ian on January 23, 2006, 06:16:42 pm
Frungy should be played the same way you play Calvinball.

...make it up as you go along :)


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: CaptainJay on September 12, 2006, 05:44:04 am
Old topic; but yeah I always wondered wtf Frungy was....  I bet it's something like tic tac toe :p


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Mugz the Sane on September 12, 2006, 10:08:54 am
Calvinball. Definitely.


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: SanderScamper on September 12, 2006, 12:14:19 pm
Love the Calvinball reference.

Well, from the descriptions that the blue guy gave us, (Sport Of kings etc..) I've gotta say that it's pretty much identical to Australian Rules Footy =p


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Yuptar on September 12, 2006, 11:46:04 pm
I like the idea of a game that you can't figure out. Kinda like 'fizbin' from Star Trek. The question is, where do you put the 'interface' for tracking your team? Back at the starbase somewhere? (After all, they need a repliable 'address' to send the updates to. You can't expect them to track you down in hyperspace to deliver reports. :) )


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Lukipela on September 13, 2006, 08:47:35 am
Maybe you could just take a month off your important mission to coach a Frungy team? After all, we don't know how long a season is.

"Captain, the Kohr-Ah have won the Doctrinal conflict! Their death march has begun and our allies are being wiped out! We must do something!"

"Yeah yeah, sure, right after Frungy season ends, OK? My team is winning."


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Death 999 on September 13, 2006, 04:16:31 pm
Implement it all in the planet lander window. Then it won't take any time at all.
;)


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Wodahs on October 02, 2006, 07:06:09 am
well first of if you were to make Frungy aka their version of football it would have to be violent like football and played like soccer, more on this is that they are frog or maybe toads which means hopping must be involed and the blue female one was the only into it so her race is the players and who give a fot whos fot or pik of foq the one in the back never had a say in this.

oh yeah it would take the fun out of the not knowing what frungy is to i love coming up with many thing it can be there is a socer

but what do i care of small they were to late join in the alliance of free stars and we shofixti payed for with the lifes of bilions good Ur Quan kill though lol.


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Mugz the Sane on October 02, 2006, 08:04:27 am
the one in the back is the fot.


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Jumping *Peppers* on October 03, 2006, 02:31:06 am
Of course, figuring out a good balance of players would be just as challenging as figuring out what all those statistics even mean in the first place. ;D
Don't forget- during fifth quarter wikpik rounds, you should pick the players with the highest loop average to counter your opponent's possible advantage from having a higher unabridged Greater Wiffiles count.  ;D
The way you put it, Frungy seems like Mornington Crestcent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mornington_Crescent_%28game%29). :P

Of course, only a COMPLETE noob would leave the rear wiffle gate unguarded while doing a Half-loop abridged manuver, the other team would get a free edge if they made it to the goal line! Unless you're using the famous TikTak's Gambit... ;D


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: stshores24 on October 04, 2006, 06:59:24 pm
Unless you're using the famous TikTak's Gambit... ;D
Not the Gambit!!!  :o

The way you put it, Frungy seems like Mornington Crestcent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mornington_Crescent_%28game%29). :P
That game sounds like a lot of fun. How do you play it?  ;D


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: stshores24 on October 04, 2006, 08:05:19 pm
The way you put it, Frungy seems like Mornington Crestcent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mornington_Crescent_%28game%29). :P
That game sounds like a lot of fun. How do you play it?  ;D

Never mind, I found a JavaScript version here (http://www.amazonsystems.co.uk/data/morn.htm). Perhaps we could inquire if the code is open source, and if so, we could easily adapt it to the UQM universe.

Or not.


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Jumping *Peppers* on October 04, 2006, 10:33:20 pm
whoa whoa whoa, you can actually play Morning Crescent? I'll have to check that out sometime.


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: stshores24 on October 04, 2006, 11:11:59 pm
whoa whoa whoa, you can actually play Morning Crescent? I'll have to check that out sometime.
Well, yeah, sorta. Heh heh.


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: guesst on October 04, 2006, 11:38:18 pm
Hey! I just figured out how to make a frungy game.

So, you start a franchise. You hire players for various positions with bizarre names, keep track of their statistics which you can't quite figure out what they mean, and so forth. Each time you start a franchise, the relevance of the various statistics -- and even what the statistics ARE changes, so you have to figure out afresh what a winning team looks like.

What do you think?

For example:

PotKop (Pik)
Loop average: 3.9
Time to Defractate: 3.2 sec
Total passing (from/around): 16/312
Lesser Wiffles: 1
Greater Wiffles (abridged): 0 (1)
Augments (reversed): 30 (2)
Intractations: 3
~~~
Fielded as: center mid-flogsetter
I come out of lurking for a second to say this is brilliant! Infact, it's the sort of minigame that I could write a little C/C++ program for a little project (http://www.abandonia.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=10836&st=0) I'm wokring on.


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Languidiir on October 11, 2006, 01:29:46 am
This sounds like it has awesome potential.
IDEA: Frungy message board?
A  Frungy message board! We could play this wonderful sport! Then, we could brag about them to our friends and confuse them :D


Title: Re: Frungy minigame inside Ur-Quan Masters is waiting to be made
Post by: Mugz the Sane on October 11, 2006, 08:00:19 am
take the rules from something like baseball or cricket, slap in a good selection of mornington crescent rules, concoct a huge wodge of other random rules, and let's play!