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Title: Recommended games
Post by: AnotherW on September 02, 2006, 01:55:28 pm
i haven't been playing new games for quite a long while (old computer, studies, gf, etc.)
any good recommendations?


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Frikimaru on September 02, 2006, 03:00:23 pm
X2-the threat keep me playing 4 months, X3 reunion was released not too long, and seems to b even better, made b egosoft, space related stuff and stelar trading


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Shiver on September 02, 2006, 05:09:35 pm
I've been playing Titan Quest. It's a pretty decent Diablo spin-off, although the inherent mindlessness of Diablo games led me to start simultaneously playing this super complicated thing called Star Chamber which I doubt anyone around here has ever heard of. If I wanted to sum up Star Chamber, it would be Master of Orion + Magic The Gathering + 30 IQ points. Here's a demo for anyone who wants to try something complicated:

http://www.starchamber.net/archives.php?m=18 (http://www.starchamber.net/archives.php?m=18)

The one demo mission ("The Jupiter Initiative") they give you is really friggin' brutal for newbies but try and beat it anyway. If anyone acquires a taste for the game, send me a PM and I'll tell you how to get into the multiplayer game by using the absolute minimum amount of money to acquire cards.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Anthony on September 02, 2006, 05:35:19 pm
I've been playing a game called Alien Arena.  It's a freeware title, based on the Quake II and III games.  Nice multiplayer, but I wish there was more people online playing it....

http://red.planetarena.org


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: JonoPorter on September 02, 2006, 07:09:40 pm
For a very good free real time stradegy game I would recomend Total Annihilation (TA) Spring.
http://taspring.clan-sy.com/ (http://taspring.clan-sy.com/)
Its multiplayer only at the moment.




Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: AnotherW on September 02, 2006, 10:17:10 pm
"scribbling furiously"
i'm writing, i'm writing! keep it coming!  :)
i'm reminded of a certain spongebob (yeah, yeah, i know, what can i say i love cartoons...) episode:

"self customization!
genious!
he's softening the ground!
of course!"  ....

Shiver:
i started playing Magic: the gathering around 3 ed. and stopped around mirage/visions when i didn't have the time and money anymore. so i don't think it's likely i'll go into another collectible  card game soon. i am intrigued, though as to how a card game is combined with a computer game?

anyway, the game doesn't have to be free.oh, and by new i mean from about diablo 2 onward (not very new, i know).

EDIT:
Bioslayer:
BTW, i noticed you said on another topic that AVP 2 is the best FPS ever. i played AVP 1 and i know that half way through the game i couldn't play anymore what with me getting so jittery about those damn aliens jumping me. if you'll compare that (or AVP 2) to system shock  2 which would you find scarier?


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: JonoPorter on September 02, 2006, 11:30:22 pm
System shock 2 and deus ex 1 are very different from most FPS since they have some very cool depth because of their RPG elements and story line.

AVP 2 is just a really fun shoot’em up with no depth compared to system shock 2. As for how scary they are I can’t really remember enough for comparison. All I remember is both games kept me on my toes. Now if you want a freaky and fun game that will make you loose control of you digestive track then you want to play F.E.A.R.  The fear multiplayer is also very fun.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Shiver on September 03, 2006, 06:46:30 am
Shiver:
i started playing Magic: the gathering around 3 ed. and stopped around mirage/visions when i didn't have the time and money anymore. so i don't think it's likely i'll go into another collectible  card game soon. i am intrigued, though as to how a card game is combined with a computer game?

The virtual cards are stored on the Star Chamber server, I assume. No one has ever hacked cards for themself, so it's pretty fool-proof. In the singleplayer missions you aren't using your own collection, but rather the card set that was put into that specific mission. What else can I tell you but to play the demo? Or don't if you're trying to be careful with your money because SC will end up costing you a bit more than a regular game if you get hooked by it. On the other hand, it's still a lot cheaper than Magic.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: AnotherW on September 03, 2006, 06:39:18 pm
Shiver:

sound intersting, but i'm a bit leery about collectibles right now, maybe in a couple of years, who knows? anyway, how's titan quest?

Biolsayer:
pardon me for my ignorance but what is deus ex (1 or whatever) ?


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Cronos on September 04, 2006, 06:10:28 am
I havent played the DX series at all but I can say unequivocally that System Shock 2 is on par, quality wise, with SC2. It's an absolutely amazing game that will have you panicking, swearing and occassionally wetting your pance with fear at times.

But Dont Take My Word For it, read the review! (http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?gameid=3924)


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: JonoPorter on September 04, 2006, 07:44:16 am
pardon me for my ignorance but what is deus ex (1 or whatever) ?
You can always answer your own questions with google or wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex)
Just seeing the box art makes me wanna play it again.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Lukipela on September 04, 2006, 08:02:31 am
AVP 2 is just a really fun shoot’em up with no depth compared to system shock 2. As for how scary they are I can’t really remember enough for comparison. All I remember is both games kept me on my toes. Now if you want a freaky and fun game that will make you loose control of you digestive track then you want to play F.E.A.R.  The fear multiplayer is also very fun.

I tihnk it's mostly that they are a different kind of scary. System Shock 2 is really creepy and unnerving, whilst AVP is more "action scary". At least for me, AVP2 caused more of the "oshit oshit oshit my scanner beeping its coming closer it just jumped out of the drain! AARGH" scariness whilst System Shock caused more of the "The walls are moaning and I can hear one of those deranged cybrogs stalking around somewhere yelling for her children" scariness.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Ivan Ivanov on September 04, 2006, 12:29:10 pm
There are two games I'll recommend 'till the end of time.
Gothic 1 and 2. Best damn RPGs ever made, tough I think part 1 is slightly better.
They have fun gameplay, a nice story, and they have most important part of an RPG, that most others fail to do right  - the feeling that your character is developing.

Great games they are, and I could kiss every single developer that was invlolved in the process of making them.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: AnotherW on September 04, 2006, 03:36:50 pm
Bioslayer:
pardon me for my ignorance but what is deus ex (1 or whatever) ?
You can always answer your own questions with google or wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex)
Just seeing the box art makes me wanna play it again.

oh, don't worry, i do that as soon as somebody (you in this case) mentions a name, i was simply looking for your personal perspective

Lukipela:
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At least for me, AVP2 caused more of the "oshit oshit oshit my scanner beeping its coming closer it just jumped out of the drain! AARGH" scariness whilst System Shock caused more of the "The walls are moaning and I can hear one of those deranged cybrogs stalking around somewhere yelling for her children" scariness.

yeah, i remember this time my brother started playing AVP 1 and he didn't see the Alien movie  for a long time and he was looking at this face hugger and thinking "what the @#$% is this stupid and sorry thing?" and suddenly it jumped him and he LITERALLY fell over backwards with the chair from fright! "snicker, snicker"

Vania:

tanx, i'll chechk into those as well...



since i just got Heroes of Might and Magic V - has anyone solidified an opinion about the game?  i adored 3 and hated 4 to give a clue of what i'm looking for.





Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Deus Siddis on September 04, 2006, 06:52:03 pm
Since Starcraft and Battlezone 2, I haven't seen many good commercial games come out to my liking (with the exception of URT 2004, though it runs a little too fast.) In the mean time, I have mostly played freeware alpha-beta games like UQM, Aftermath, ReMasters, Black Sky, Vega Strike, BZFlag, and Wesnoth. Also, there are some abandonware games that can be downloaded on the-underdogs.info, like Starfleet Command 3, Wing Commander, (System Shock 1+2 as someone just mentioned, though I haven't ever played these,) Starflight 1+2, Starfight VI (not Starflight, but Starfight,) Elite, and others.

I'm really looking forward to some of the near future games though- Unreal Tournament 2007, Battlefield 2142, Halo 3, Command & Conquer 3, Supreme Commander, Infinity Quest for Earth, and Spore. Every Trekie will probably get Star Trek Legacy when it comes out.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Elerium on September 04, 2006, 07:53:42 pm
...led me to start simultaneously playing this super complicated thing called Star Chamber which I doubt anyone around here has ever heard of. If I wanted to sum up Star Chamber, it would be Master of Orion + Magic The Gathering + 30 IQ points. Here's a demo for anyone who wants to try something complicated...

I must say, I've been playing Star Chamber after you've introduced it to me and I've fancied a game like this for some time now, reminding me of the Magic games except this one plays better. I might just even get it, but is it worth it?

The whole 'online collecting' thing puts me off a bit though.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Shiver on September 05, 2006, 05:55:46 am
Elerium, I sent you a PM.

Keep all questions about Star Chamber in messages to me from now on so as not to clutter the topic.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Lukipela on September 05, 2006, 07:51:25 am
since i just got Heroes of Might and Magic V - has anyone solidified an opinion about the game?  i adored 3 and hated 4 to give a clue of what i'm looking for.

Heroes V is quite beautiful, and rather enjoyable. The third dimension does make the worlds come a live in a different way, and it makes the combat sequences quite beautiful. Of course, it suffers from all the same flaws as the rest of the series (barring no. 4 possibly, which I never played) which makes it annoying after a while.

Now if someone could remake Age of Wonders 2 and AoW2: Shadow Magic with the Heroes V graphics, then we'd be talking.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Mugz the Sane on September 05, 2006, 08:23:30 am
unfortunately, Heroes IV has pretty much the same flaws as the rest of the series.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Lukipela on September 05, 2006, 02:53:24 pm
unfortunately, Heroes IV has pretty much the same flaws as the rest of the series.

I find it weird that despite the technical prowess the series displays (becoming better and better looking), they never once make any attempt to change any flaws in the basic formula. Or what I percieve as flaws anyway. Maybe I'm just being oversensitive, but collecting enormous stacks, having your creatures trapped without a hero, and boosting every creature to insane levels just because of your hero always annoyed me. Also, even though the combat is now fully 3-dimensional, it's still the same old 2-dimensional grid that you move around on.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: AnotherW on September 05, 2006, 03:05:51 pm
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Also, even though the combat is now fully 3-dimensional, it's still the same old 2-dimensional grid that you move around on.

actually that's the thing i liked most about III - the ability to plan ahead in a chess like manner - and that's what pissed me the most about IV - that it didn't have that option. does V have it?


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Draxas on September 05, 2006, 06:00:27 pm
Being the Westwood junkie that I am, I can't help reccommending the recently released C&C compilation. It's a set that includes every C&C game from the first one, right on up to Generals, plus all their expansion packs. If I hadn't bought most of the games either separately or in other packs previously, I would have jumped all over that one.

Do you want titles only for PC, or will you take console title reccommendations as well?


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: AnotherW on September 05, 2006, 06:14:36 pm
Draxas:
i liked tiberian sun but not red alert and the first ones, i haven't tried generals.
i only have a PC but you can always use an emulator, can't you?


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: AngusThermopyle on September 05, 2006, 06:47:55 pm
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actually that's the thing i liked most about III - the ability to plan ahead in a chess like manner - and that's what pissed me the most about IV - that it didn't have that option. does V have it?

Yes, combat is still played out on a chess-style grid. Now if only they'd release that map editor....


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Lukipela on September 05, 2006, 07:46:39 pm
actually that's the thing i liked most about III - the ability to plan ahead in a chess like manner - and that's what pissed me the most about IV - that it didn't have that option. does V have it?

Really? I felt that was one of the weaker points. Sure, the map in V is a tad larger, but your strategic possibilities are quite limited. You can fire at anyone you wish, there is no cover. And most units can make it across the map in two turns. So, if you have a army filled with shooters, you just shoot at the enemy and try to decimate them before they reach you. If not, you try to move just far enough to not be attacked in the first round, and then charge in the second. Unless the enemy has some shooters, in which case you either charge them or shoot them. The new initiative system works fairly well though, it makes morale more usable, and shifts the power a tad.

Now in a game like AoW, the battlefield woudl be large and isometric. There'd be trees and things to that you could use for cover whilst advancing. And when atacking cities, you wouldn't just advance and wait for your catapult to blow a hole in something, you'd actually break down gates and walls.

If IV had a different sort of combat system, I might just have to take a look at it.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Shiver on September 06, 2006, 03:07:04 am
Now if someone could remake Age of Wonders 2 and AoW2: Shadow Magic with the Heroes V graphics, then we'd be talking.

Screw Age of Wonders. It's a shallow knock-off of Master of Magic, a fantastic old game I have yet to see be immitated properly.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Lukipela on September 06, 2006, 07:22:09 am
No, screw you and screw the horse you rode in on ;)

As I recall, Master of Magic was a more civ like game, whereas both heroes and AoW have are both mission based "tactical" games. You might as well compare Civ to Panzer Commander and claim superiority because Civ deals with much more than just one war.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Mugz the Sane on September 06, 2006, 08:28:15 am
MoM was a good game, as was AoW. They're similar, not the same, and one is not a knock-off of the other. Anyway.

So HoMM V has an even more simplified (i.e. stupid) combat system... depressing.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Lukipela on September 06, 2006, 08:40:28 am
So HoMM V has an even more simplified (i.e. stupid) combat system... depressing.

I'd say it's more advanced than III, but only because turns are now decided by initiative rather than everyone just going one after another.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Mugz the Sane on September 06, 2006, 10:33:09 am
I may be wrong, but wasn't the init-based combat introduced in IV?


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Lukipela on September 06, 2006, 11:12:51 am
Like I said, I never played it. You coudl be right. however, it would seem that we are spamming up a perfectly good thread with our Heroes innuendo. I suggest we take any further heroes discussion (should it be necessary) to PM's, or start a new thread.

distant watcher: An interesting straegy game that I haven't gotten around to playing yet is Galactic civilisations two. You might enjoy that.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: AnotherW on September 06, 2006, 12:56:05 pm
Lukipela:

i'm writing it all down but i guess it'll take me some time to plough through it all - im busy with half life right now... a bit behind, i am


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Zieman on September 06, 2006, 02:25:39 pm
...- im busy with half life right now... a bit behind, i am
:)
How far behind does that make me, playing Master of Orion 2, Rally Trophy & various C64 games regularly...?  :o
;)


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Lukipela on September 06, 2006, 03:07:30 pm
Not to mention that game from the early nineties, whatsit called? Star Controller or something?


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: AngusThermopyle on September 06, 2006, 03:21:38 pm
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How far behind does that make me, playing Master of Orion 2, Rally Trophy & various C64 games regularly...?

If it makes ya feel any better, I fired up Master of Orion 1 on DOS box last week! Good times!  ;)

As for Heroes IV, it did have some nifty (and unique to the series) combat features. For example, there was simultaneous retaliation, units could block ranged attacks (so it was good to bring slow meatshield type units), and there a lot of interesting spells to choose from that they curiously removed. Oh well...I still like V.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Novus on September 06, 2006, 04:03:26 pm
If it makes ya feel any better, I fired up Master of Orion 1 on DOS box last week! Good times!  ;)
Is that one of those newfangled graphical games? I'm still trying to figure out how to avoid slipping on the unislime in Snowball (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_%28game%29).


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: tinyghosts on September 12, 2006, 03:54:11 pm
I normally hate MMORPGs, but there is one out there that is significantly different than any of the others, and it completely clears up a lot of the major problems that most MMORPGs have.  It's called Puzzle PIrates:

http://www.puzzlepirates.com (http://www.puzzlepirates.com)

It's kinda like a MMORPG mixed with tetris.  Plus it's about pirates!



Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Shiver on September 14, 2006, 07:37:20 am
Someone dragged me into Battle for Wesnoth which is freeware that's fun like a waterslide. Any of you kids playing Star Chamber right now might want to give me a holler if you want to play me because this is new to me and that is not.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Deus Siddis on September 14, 2006, 02:49:30 pm
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Someone dragged me into Battle for Wesnoth which is freeware that's fun like a waterslide. Any of you kids playing Star Chamber right now might want to give me a holler if you want to play me because this is new to me and that is not.

Agreed, wesnoth is a nice little freeware tbs. Its simple ui comes hand in hand with its addictiveness. What is your wesnoth callsign, btw?


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Shiver on September 14, 2006, 08:46:57 pm
My callsign? "Konrad, Heir to the Throne". I'm playing the campaigns right now you doofus. There's a lot of these so it might be a while.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Mr._Jiggles on September 15, 2006, 06:36:00 am
Well if you have an xbox 360 and a HD-TV , then get dead rising. A great game i found out. Its the reason i bought a new televison and a xbox 360.

http://ww2.capcom.com/deadrising/

(http://data1.blog.de/blog/k/kairokairo/img/dead%20rising.jpg)

Think GTA meets Resident Evil.

The sheer volume of zombies being able to be squeezed onto the screen is great. You can have hundreds of zombies on screen without any hint of lag. Makes for a great game/


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Mugz the Sane on September 15, 2006, 08:20:26 am
If I was the poor sucker standing on the truck...

well... I don't think I'd be standing. Think Rincew- ah, Spathi. I just hope 'to' doesn't also have zombies...


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Mr._Jiggles on September 15, 2006, 08:55:02 am
lol ive done that before in the underground matienence tunnels under the mall. The van broke down and i was down to my last bar. Made a dash for it and got zerged by 500 zombies waiting to take turns gang raping my body.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: AngusThermopyle on September 15, 2006, 03:32:03 pm
Well if you have an xbox 360 and a HD-TV , then get dead rising. A great game i found out. Its the reason i bought a new televison and a xbox 360.

http://ww2.capcom.com/deadrising/

Think GTA meets Resident Evil.

The sheer volume of zombies being able to be squeezed onto the screen is great. You can have hundreds of zombies on screen without any hint of lag. Makes for a great game/

That looks like a lotta fun....there more baddies on that screen than even Serious Sam could handle.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Deus Siddis on September 16, 2006, 04:48:44 pm
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My callsign? "Konrad, Heir to the Throne". I'm playing the campaigns right now you doofus. There's a lot of these so it might be a while.

I never put much into the campaign, too much running away all the time and not a fun sort of fleeing like in the first terran Starcraft campaign. However, it probably wouldn't be tough to make my own damn campaign, so I have no right to complain. It's just too much more fun to make new MP maps in the editor for me to get into the scripting part.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Aya Reiko on September 17, 2006, 10:04:28 am
For FPS's, I'd say give F.E.A.R. a try.  If not that, try UT2004 instead.
For pure mayhem potential, I'd go with GTA:SA.
For TBS's Civ 4 and GalCiv2 are good picks.

I might think of more later...


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: AngusThermopyle on September 17, 2006, 11:28:11 pm
For FPS's, I'd say give F.E.A.R. a try.  If not that, try UT2004 instead.

I think they recently released a free, multi-player-only version of F.E.A.R recently. Haven't got around to trying it myself yet.


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: UAF on September 19, 2006, 01:55:50 am
I like Heroes V!

I can't say much about IV, because when I played it I stacked 50 black dragons and then when I was about to attack I had this strong sense of Deja Vu, and I said to myself "Hey, didn't I do that before" and that's when it occurred to me that yes. I have been doing the very save thing since Heroes I...

Although from what I heard the game sucked anyway.

But the point is - this doesn't happen in Heroes V.
The other units no longer become obsolete when you get your level 7 units. The units are all pretty well balanced and almost every unit has some kind of special power.

Also I really like the campaign, the story is interesting and fun, and the characters are good.
In fact that's also my problem with the campaign - the elves are the snobbish stupid tree shuggers sissies we all know they are, and so I REALLY HATE MY HERO in the elves missions. This is why I currently can't bring myself to finish the last of the elves missions. :)
I mean, by Primus, the only reason Findon have survives this far is because the annoying mission objective "Findon must survive".

Anyway - great game!


Title: Re: Recommended games
Post by: Mr._Jiggles on September 25, 2006, 02:19:03 am

For pure mayhem potential, I'd go with GTA:SA.


errrr yeahh.....

Dead rising fits that genre more than SA i would say. Saints Row also supasses SA.