The Ur-Quan Masters Discussion Forum

OK, so I heard their distress call and forgot about it. It's now August and the Zoq-Fot-Pik homeworld has been reduced to its base elements. Oops.

Do I care? Do they serve a vital role in the story later, or can I just shrug my shoulders, say 'oh well', and go on?

It has no effect on the rest of the game. You'll just miss a few clues that they could give you, but nothing you can't do without.

Thanks. I think I had already wrote the clues that I had heard down: there was the fact about the Vux replacing the Androsynth and the direction from which the Slylandro probes originated. Anything else I'm missing? I seem to remember that their ships sucked, so I don't think it's worth returning to previous saves for that.

I just wish I'd known that I was going to discover a worthless planet before I tried to reach them in time. Wasted a bunch of fuel on these dweebs. Ah well.

Hey! They're a three-for-one deal and have some crackingly funny dialog...

Too bad you let them die :-)

Nah, I'm well-familiar with the ZFP. They ARE really funny. I actually DID save them in an earlier game save, but had re-traced my steps because I had forgotten something. I don't remember why it was that I retraced my steps, but regardless, they're gone now and there's no use crying over spilt milk...or in this case, destroyed races.

Besides that, I had solved SC2 about a decade ago . That was using a walkthrough, however, and since my memory is foggy anyway I decided I would do it right, which means that I'm taking it slow and discovering the game anew. I am amazed at how fresh a ten-year-old game can be.

The only information that you can only get from the ZFP is the location of the Syreen ships.  But Talana gives you a hint which narrows down the number of places you'd have to look, so you don't really need it.

Ah, OK. Haven't gotten that far yet. Thanks for the tip.

Wow, I missed that one.

Err, I think it was. I may be confused. Someone ate the Androsynth.

It was the Orz, actually.

Yeah, those cats. Or whatever. Thanks.

Hey, when I said 'dweebs' I was just being funny. The ZFP are probably the funniest race in SC2. Going to miss them, but hey, fuel's expensive and I have Ur-Quan to destroy.  ;D

Well, my conscience was starting to bug me last night--yes, I'm weird, and I know it's just a game--but all the same, I'd rather have the ZFP in my system than not. So I'll restore one of my saves and see if I can get to them in time.

 ::) Yeah, I'm weird. Sorry.

Good. They may have a largely useless ship for a beginner, they may be mildly irritating, and they may not be able to give you much info, but they are funny, they are cute and they have come up with a wonderful and entertaining sport.

Well worth the effort/fuel to save. Also, practice enough and their little ship won't sting anymore, it'll MAIM.

Hmm....maybe. But it is kind of nice to see my little collection of ships all around me--one Earthling Cruiser, five Spathi ships (I stocked up before they slave-shielded themselves), and now the four ZFP ships. It's kind of the same warm fuzzy feeling a collector gets when a box arrives from eBay with the latest supplement to his addiction, minus the actual money thing involved.

The only thing that really frustrated me was that after I saved their planet, they had no new informaion for me. Gosh, I would've at least made up SOMETHING! ("Yeah, last week we saw this....uh....green guy with...uh...a message for you...um...he said he would see you later.") Just something more. Ah well.

If the ZFP have new info for you, that is a Bad Thing^TM. It indicates that you are going to have a very genocidal problem in the near future. So, no news is good news.

Umm.. Can you "save" the ZFP? What do you have to do, kill some KorAh?

SPOILERish since we've been discussing it all throught the thread.



When theCommander tells you that they've recieved a ZFP distres signal, travel to their homeworld. You'll find a lone Kohr-ah ship there. Blast it, and all is well again.

When the Zot-Fot-Pik ask for assistance, they need it.  They're not in the habit of using such extreme words, as the Pik emmisary points out.

Yeah, it was easy to destroy.  I killed it with my one Spathi Eluder.

Spathi Eluders are actually quite good ships, they're just piloted by cowards :)

So I take it this is an event where time matters and I can't go mining for a year or so and expect them to survive? For some reason I thought the ZFP distress was simply to tip off their location before you even met the ZFP. Perhaps I'm confusing this with somthing else..

There are two signals from the ZFP. First the commander tells you about transmissions from the Rigel star system, where you meet them for the first time. They then give you the location of their homeworld. A while after you've been to their homeworld and become allies, they send off an distress signal. Time does matter here, I think you have around three months to go save them or they'll be wiped out.

Do remember to go packing - there may only be one Kohr-Ah around their homeworld, but there will still be a tone of them and their Ur-Quan cousins around Zot-Fot-Pik space.

Agreed, though I find that killing most ships with the Eluder to be too time-consuming to be worthwhile once you have stronger ships available to you.

You can take down nearly anything with an Eluder, but sometimes its a very long battle.  Maybe I'm just too impatient. :)

Fusion Thrusters and Turning Jets FTW.

I am not a fan of running.  It wastes fuel and if it is a fight you can win, then it also wastes the RU you could be making off salvage.  Waste, waste, waste.

Except that a slow moving ship close to the ZFP homeworld will actually get stuck. Enough HS contacts will be generated all the time to keep you falling into a new one before you have a chance to move at all. So while you may win every fight, you'll be stuck in the same spot figting until the Sa-Matra rolls around. And seeing as time only passes for the split second you are in HS before being dragged down again, that will be a very long time.

But go ahead, fight on ye mighty and brave. Waste not, and doom the universe.

the universe is already doomed. humanity is at large in it.

Forgive my rudeness for reviving an old topic, but a question has occurred to me.

What did you do to the 4 pkunk ship's? Don't know if you know it, but they are the most effective ships against the big toy of the ur-quan.

I hope for you that you have at least saved one of them, if not, you will have a hard time against it, and you may have to begin all over  ;D. Of course you can make the big ur-quan toy vulnerable with other ships, but it will take a lot more effort.