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Well… I'm new.

Anyways… I just finished playing UQM. Someone was showing me SC1, and then I asked, "So… did Toys For Bob ever live up to UQM's credits and make a third one?" And what did I hear! (This was before I came to the site and saw the Petition.) Some OTHER company had made someTHING that was horrible!

But I don't want to denounce SC3 without actually playing it or doing some research. So what's it like?

There are numerous threads on this subject you could peruse. For instance, a quick usage of the search feature would indicate that these topics might be helpful:

http://uqm.stack.nl/forum/index.php?topic=3206.0
http://uqm.stack.nl/forum/index.php?topic=2748.0
http://uqm.stack.nl/forum/index.php?topic=3340.0
http://uqm.stack.nl/forum/index.php?topic=3085.0
http://uqm.stack.nl/forum/index.php?topic=2767.0
http://uqm.stack.nl/forum/index.php?topic=2583.0
http://uqm.stack.nl/forum/index.php?topic=2088.0
http://uqm.stack.nl/forum/index.php?topic=858.0
http://uqm.stack.nl/forum/index.php?topic=433.0

In short, story not too shabby but not as good as SC2, game mechanics full of bugs (locks up if you do things in the wrong order) and audially and visually far less pleasing (puppets and dark colours, sombre music).

Unless you were just trolling from responses of course, in which case carry on.

There's videos of SCnot3 at http://youtube.com/results?search_query=%22star+control+3%22&search=Search

Thanks.

Puppets? I was expecting that… I can't help thinking of the "Dregs and Vestiges" thing that Jim Henson did on the early SNL episodes.

One thing I keep forgetting about was that the AI in "Hyper" Melee was bad.  It would _only_ run away.  In fact, the developers knew this, and a note was put in the manual that you needed to hit a function key to make the enemy become agressive for a short period.

I tried to get into it, but I just couldn't. The navigation system confused me. I often ran out of fuel before the game even started. Probably one of the worst games I have ever played, unless there are worse ones I'm blocking out with my mind. On my personal rating, I give it the following score.

Gameplay: 0 - Zomg, wtf is going on?

Storyline: 0 - Zomg, wtf is going on? (again)

Graphics: 0 .5 - Zomg, wtf is going on? (a third time) And why are Spathi beige? What does the colony colours mean?

Sound: 0 - Zomg, I know what's going on. Suckitude.

Originality: 0.5 - It's got something good going for it. But in the end, it doesn't.

Total Points: 1/5.

Compared to SC2 which gets a 5/5 on my same scale, which is difficult to pull off, since I like to toss around 0.5s. SC3, the very symbol of which fills me with rage upon seeing the C connected to the 3 in such an awful combination. Yarrgh! I cannot stand it anymore, I must immediately escape the madness found within the hallowed halls of my mind as it continues to envision SC3. God, there's that C and 3 combo again, I can't take it anymore!

In short, SC3 really, really,  really sucks. And I like everything.

the voice acting
the voice acting
is horrid !!!

Actually, I preferred the Orz voice in SC3 to the 3DO SC2 version. However, the new aliens (with the possible exception of the Daktaklakpak) were annoying and/or boring and most of the good stuff in SC3 (especially in the dialogue) was lifted from SC2.

purple spathi.....why?!?

SC_not3. Hasn't that one been beaten completely to death yet?

Oh, well... *beats another seventeen colours of ___ outta SC_not3 for disappointing so badly, then coordinates an orbital ion strike on Legend HQ.*

1º- let intorduce-me: Hi my name is Nasa1733 but if u like call me Nasa1733_kun, im portuguese, and i like PC's, Consoles, Spore, SC2, UQM and moding ;D  . Now what am i forgeting... oh that : I have a webpage and a bloger visite them at:
Webpage: http://www.tugagames.webtuga.net/ (Portuguese, but in beta a English language will be soon there)
Blog: http://www.mundialinfo.blogzet.com/ (Portuguese)

2º- I was thinking for what reson the spathi is purple and my respost was(Remember this):
That they canot do the original spathi (whit claws like a clam) so they do that guy. Now the reson that he is pink is simple: Because (you imagine now ) that guy if he was multi-color (Like the original) he where like a hippy. So they do this reson ;)

Kill hippies!!! They tell that they want to save Earth, but only thing they do is smock crack and lissen rock and roll...

Can't kill something that's already dead.

Legend was acquired by GT interactive in '98, and GTI was bought outright by Atari/Infogrames a year later. In 2004, Atari shut down Legend Entertainment for good.

Thanks for the good news Aya! :D

That's a bit harsh; I sort of enjoyed some of Legend's earlier games (especially Gateway). However, Star Control II relied heavily on things Legend were weak at, such as snappy dialogue, creative action sequences and the like, while Legend didn't really have a chance to use their skills in Star Control 3 (alien worlds, surreal but logical puzzles). Star Control 3 would have been better if they'd done it as a text adventure ;).

The differences in style make this even worse. SC2's music made itself noticed, while SC3 has Legend's usual atmospheric background stuff that isn't annoying when you hear it for the 30th time but you don't really remember it afterwards. The puppets and idiotic isometric combat view (which is, thankfully, easily turned off) must be something dreamed up by Accolade management, because I don't Legend ever did anything like that before.

On the other hand, I think the fan outrage would have been even worse if SC3 would have been like this:

That was just superb!  ;D

Post SC3 Legend games:

Callahan's Crosstime Saloon
John Saul's Blackstone Chronicles
Unreal Mission Pack: Return to Na Pali
Wheel of Time
Unreal II: The Awakening
Unreal II: eXpanded MultiPlayer