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The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release => General UQM Discussion => Topic started by: Destin on January 22, 2007, 05:15:12 am

Title: Can you invade?
Post by: Destin on January 22, 2007, 05:15:12 am
Hi I am new and I couldn't find a thread that answers this question so...
I have gone to the Ilwrath homeworld and I have been beating the snot out of them prettly easily so I though I could go ahead and invade their home. Well I do and I go into battle after battle going on to about 15 fights and I finaly die so I am wondering is it possible to invade a planet and win if not why is there fights if there is no chance to win.

Title: Re: Can you invade?
Post by: waywardoctagon on January 22, 2007, 05:22:50 am
Nope.  Homeworlds, effectively, have infinite ships.  (Actually, I think codewise it's the same ship that you keep fighting--just with a new name and re-crewed.  Notice that you don't even get RU from these battles.)

It makes sense, storywise, for there to be a fleet protecting a homeworld, and IIRC it's infinite (for practical purposes) to avoid the whole mess that being able to invade homeworlds would bring.  If there were no fleet, or a defeatable fleet, there would still need to be either something in place to keep you from landing on homeworlds, or some kind of planet-based combat system.

Also, it's a way of forcing the player to consider solutions besides "blow everyone up" in some situations.

ETA: I think from an IC perspective, it's supposed to mean they can create ships faster than you can destroy them.

Title: Re: Can you invade?
Post by: Destin on January 22, 2007, 05:56:35 am
Thanks. That saved me allot of time.

Title: Re: Can you invade?
Post by: taltamir on January 22, 2007, 06:15:17 am
i remember long protracted homeworld battles, i just guessed they must be infinate after killing about 100 enemy ships or so... Try spending several hours straight killing enemies :)

It works out plotwise too, you can freely attack homeworlds and then retreat, and sometimes its even represented in the dialogue (for example, admiral zex dialog accounts for you attacking his infinate fleet, escaping, and talking to him again.. severeal times :P)

Since escaping is allowed, there are various dialogue options that depend on it, the only one that i know of that is actually important and not just flavor is the shofixti

Title: Re: Can you invade?
Post by: Zeep-Eeep on January 22, 2007, 04:48:45 pm
There is one case in which you can attack a home world  and beat them into submission. You can't
invade, but you can win. It's when you find the talking pet.