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The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release => General UQM Discussion => Topic started by: Captain_Smith on March 11, 2007, 08:06:42 am



Title: Ethics in the Game
Post by: Captain_Smith on March 11, 2007, 08:06:42 am
I thought I'd put something else into the forum maybe to get people discussing things.  I think of Hayes chewing you out for selling slaves.  But there's some other situations that you'd wonder if he really would say something, logically.  Like:

1)  You can trade for a Druuge ship without trading crew.   What's the difference really of selling crew to the Druuge for them to feed the furnaces, or your own Druuge captain feeding your own crew into the furnace?  You have to wonder.

and

2) I know it doesn't happen in the full game, but what if you went against a Syreen in an Earthling ship?  You have to wonder what Hayes would say if the Syreen drew your crew out and as the Earthling captain you simply zapped them so the Syreen couldn't pick them up?

What do you all think about these things?  And specifically what do you do in the 2nd situation?  Try to win and leave the crew out or zap them straight away?


Title: Re: Ethics in the Game
Post by: Spektrowski on March 11, 2007, 09:31:39 am
The first situation (with the Druuge) may be resolved with having the Druuge captain flying solo so that he hasn't any crew to burn :D


Title: Re: Ethics in the Game
Post by: Elvish Pillager on March 11, 2007, 11:33:02 am
Nothing says you have to actually use the Mauler's secondary just because you buy it.


Title: Re: Ethics in the Game
Post by: Elvish Pillager on March 11, 2007, 03:34:13 pm
Maulers are decent in the battle with the Sa-Matra.


Title: Re: Ethics in the Game
Post by: Mugz the Sane on March 15, 2007, 04:09:34 pm
Shielding works best with picosecond reflexes.


Title: Re: Ethics in the Game
Post by: Zeep-Eeep on March 15, 2007, 05:37:11 pm
Getting back to the ethics question, I think the commander pretty much lets you do your thing. Sure, he
gets mad if you start mass-selling humans into slavery. But losing a few in battle, whether to the
enemy or to your furence, is in the call of duty. War is a terrible thing, lives are lost, hard decisions are
made, etc etc.


Title: Re: Ethics in the Game
Post by: Draxas on March 15, 2007, 06:30:57 pm
Not to mention that it's your ship, and he's basically powerless to stop you. Short of raising crew prices, what's Hayes going to do? Withhold his support from your cause? The best he could muster on his own is a small fleet of Cruisers, and that doesn't quite have the same impact in diplomacy as a Precursor "warship." Besides, I'm sure he wants to see the slave shields come down as much as anyone else, even to the point of working with someone whose practices he finds distasteful.


Title: Re: Ethics in the Game
Post by: Draxas on March 15, 2007, 11:22:44 pm
And nobody could see that that crew members died via tossing in the furnace, you can only see that they died, but who says that they weren't killed by an enemy projectile? Even if we accept that SuperMelee is the abstract representation of a multiship battle (which is my belief too), the captains of the other ships have more important jobs to do than watch how many bullets hit the Maulers.

You can bet that the instant one of their fellows aboard that Mauler gets some shore leave, he's going to tell everyone aboard the starbase. Still, war is hell, and hell sometimes involves people burning.