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Title: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Valaggar on April 16, 2007, 09:16:06 pm
I'm curious how would YOU react to such an unexpected fortune. You can't do more than one thing with that money, it's intentional (otherwise everyone would do everything with it).
I'm sorry to say, but I'm too compassionate a human being not to help the poor... *sigh* I guess it's because of morons like me if a Star Control sequel is due so far in the future, in 2090.  >:( ;)


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: RTyp06 on April 16, 2007, 11:46:58 pm
At this moment in time... Give it to the Virginia Tech victim's families. I'm shocked and horrified.


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Deus Siddis on April 17, 2007, 04:31:33 pm
Keep it for myself. Then use it in realitively small proportions so that it never diminishes when augmented with some conservative investing (which while producing a small proportional return, would be a big actual return, since I would not suddenly start living in a greatly less frugal way as the chumps who usually win the lottery do).

With everything secure on that front, I would use it intelligently in small proportions to advance environmental and game universes/designs that I like.

Mostly nothing for science and technology or the poor. Extreme human population size is THE problem the world faces, and sending blind funding to the above two categories will only make it so much worse and that such is too huge of a price to pay for the ultimately selfish feeling of "doing the right thing" when it leads to more suffering and loss in the long run.


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Valaggar on April 17, 2007, 06:56:11 pm
In fact, helping poor people will neither increase or decrease the poor people's numbers - since the extra ones anyway die at very young ages.
(posting this in a hurry, any flawed reasoning is copyright to Accolade)  ;D


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Vux_Brush on April 17, 2007, 08:01:04 pm

give it practically all to ppl that need it more badly than me.

Not all due to be able to produce more with same idea. Food , cloth , water... in my country come if you work hard, but it's a fact that it comes, not like iin other places. And what makes me happy is in no sort of way and expensive car or restaurant, or uber hyped technology -tho i could do better with a core duo2, but my usual way of doing is..can do a lot with little, and this is sort of wider concept. Maybe improving my english would be something I'd do with the only thing that money could give me which I'd really apreciate... time to use as I'd like.



Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Grakelin on April 18, 2007, 01:28:36 am
I would probably use it to supplement my acting and writing lifestyle. I might start a company, but it's not going to make games. What a bad idea that would be in today's megacompany crunch down. More likely, I would do something on a smaller scale.

All this other cock and bull about feeding the poor and advancing technology is quite frankly not my cup of tea. Though, every wealthy, influential person needs some sort of cause to support, so I'd do something with global warming.


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Deus Siddis on April 18, 2007, 01:44:24 am
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In fact, helping poor people will neither increase or decrease the poor people's numbers - since the extra ones anyway die at very young ages.

I am sure it is not that simple, it depends on the particular 'group' of poor people (a group being definable by any number of things that have an effect like nation of residence, culture, local economics, decision-making, etc.) The term "poor" is a hugely wide and loose one.

The same applies to science and technology. Biotech is going to be much more devastating than "as seen on tv" kitchen gadgetry.

But I was just talking about the by and large, the average, because ultimately that's what matters, that's what kicks us in the ass.


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: countchocula86 on April 18, 2007, 05:02:07 am
Star Control of course!!


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Elvish Pillager on April 18, 2007, 11:19:28 pm
I would pay TFB to make the sequel and make it open-source and free to begin with. I think I would still have a lot of money for myself though.


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Valaggar on April 19, 2007, 04:42:42 pm
Too bad you don't have that money...  :(


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: NamelessPlayer on April 21, 2007, 04:48:10 am
I would do the following with that money:

-Get myself the best desktop I can buy
-Get myself the best laptop I can buy
-Get myself the best pocket computer I can buy of each major OS
-Start an electronics corporation to produce pocket computers and game/simulator controllers
-Start my own game development studio(there's a fictional world or two inside my own head that I want to be realized in some fashion, plus I want a Rocket Jockey sequel)
-Get the greatest game ever(for me, that's our beloved SC2)ported to every modern OS out there(starting with Palm OS and Windows Mobile, then Linux for ARM CPUs like on a Zaurus, then perhaps Symbian...what else is out there?)
-Start a merchandising company to produce things like plush headcrabs(Valve's offerings didn't quite cut it for me), and more importantly, Fwiffo plushies! (I haven't forgotten about my plan to take over the world with Fwiffo plushies!)
-Use the rest to further spacecraft and space station development so that we can stop overcrowding this planet so much(or, in the meantime, build floating cities that can spread out among the ocean and make actual land much less crowded)


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Valaggar on April 21, 2007, 08:07:15 am
You've got some really big things in mind... apropos, why do you need the best desktop if you just play SC2? You can buy a not-so-good video card, since you won't need it.


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Deus Siddis on April 21, 2007, 04:33:24 pm
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-Use the rest to further spacecraft and space station development so that we can stop overcrowding this planet so much(or, in the meantime, build floating cities that can spread out among the ocean and make actual land much less crowded)

That would be insanely expensive, as is everything that involves space. And you would only be able to put a very, very, very, small percentage of the 6-12 billion people there would be at that point, into space trailor parks, be they in orbit or across the surface of a hostile world. It wouldn't make a dent, but if it could, the dent wouldn't last half a decade (the people left behind would quickly repopulate the 'empty' space).

Floating habitats are just another pokemon bandaid over a deep, infected wound. They'd push some of the urban sprawl into the water, ruining many once natural beach and coastal regions and probably sending a few coastal dwelling species into extinct, if not for a couple of folks called Hurricane and Tsunami that will send the inhabitants and investors of such a technology out to sea. And as before, if it could make a dent, people would fill it in real fast.


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Arne on April 21, 2007, 04:59:05 pm
Use it for sponsoring science/technology etc. (founding a game company included)

I don't really know what to do with money, I grew up without it. Sure, I could buy a new computer and a game console, then pay some bills, but that would be a minor precentage of "lots of money" (which I imagine being in the millions atleast).

Maybe I'd buy a licence for an old game I like, such as Paradroid or Utopia, then hire some peeps to code for me. Or I'd do something like Mark Shuttleworth did with Ubuntu. Or I'd give it to space research which I believe has longterm collateral benefits.


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Razorback on April 22, 2007, 06:38:10 pm
1: Get my teeth fixed. 
2: Get a house
3: Buy the biggest, baddest, Alienware rig I can design
4: Contact TFB and see what I can do to help poke SC-III in the butt.  :p


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: countchocula86 on April 22, 2007, 11:04:53 pm
Another option should have been using the money to build a Precursor-style tug, and explorin this little section of space :P First stop, Pluto!


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Lukipela on April 26, 2007, 08:21:21 pm
Perhaps slightly boring, but I'd do the same as D_S. Invest, accumulate and live off the interest. As the fortune increases, I would slowly ramp up my standard of living from "semi-comfortable post-university graduate" to "comfortable middle-class businessman". You don't have to live flashy to live nice.

Of course, if I won an insane amount of money, I'd probably use some of it on things such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Case_For_Mars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Case_For_Mars)


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Deus Siddis on April 27, 2007, 03:43:30 am
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Of course, if I won an insane amount of money, I'd probably use some of it on things such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Case_For_Mars

Do you mean you would publish similar books or are you the world's only gamer who actually enjoyed playing Outpost?


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Valaggar on April 27, 2007, 03:42:39 pm
Well, I enjoyed Outpost too. He's not alone.


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Lukipela on April 27, 2007, 07:56:22 pm
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Of course, if I won an insane amount of money, I'd probably use some of it on things such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Case_For_Mars

Do you mean you would publish similar books or are you the world's only gamer who actually enjoyed playing Outpost?

I enjoyed outpost, and would publish books, yes. You see, a tree killed my grandfather, and I can think of no more fitting revenge than to turn them into books. All that evil cruelty, transformed into joyous knowledge. This is also why i print every topic I participate in.


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Zeep-Eeep on April 27, 2007, 07:57:57 pm
I didn't see this option, so I didn't vote. I'd divide the money (if it's a large amount)
into approx. three equal parts. One part would go into stable, long-term investment. The
second would go towards family and friends, notably those living with debt.
The last one would, shall we say, go toward increasing my standard of living,
especially in the travel.
Where I'm from (east Canada), I can live off about 10k a year, so I could be very comfortable
with a yearly alotment of 30k+.


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Valaggar on April 27, 2007, 08:25:44 pm
Well, the option is now available.

Quote from: Lukipela
I enjoyed outpost, and would publish books, yes. You see, a tree killed my grandfather, and I can think of no more fitting revenge than to turn them into books. All that evil cruelty, transformed into joyous knowledge. This is also why i print every topic I participate in.
My condolences.
(And thanks for printing the Wanted for Galvennmeister and Lucas Matheus. This way, they are more likely to be caught.
By God, when I GET MY GRASP OVER THEM! I want them JAILED! I want it badly!)


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Lukipela on April 27, 2007, 08:52:02 pm
I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny or obtuse. Looking through what I have missed turned up some clues, but the evidence is inconclusive at best. Nice try with the Injection though, pity it didn't work. Still, you know what they say about good intentions.


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Valaggar on April 27, 2007, 09:39:34 pm
Quote from: Lukipela
Looking through what I have missed turned up some clues, but the evidence is inconclusive at best.
I must admit this is getting funnier (and I'm getting tired since it's 10:38 PM), but what clues are you talking about? Anything that would help me catch LM&G is good.


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Lukipela on May 01, 2007, 04:43:29 pm
I must admit this is getting funnier (and I'm getting tired since it's 10:38 PM), but what clues are you talking about? Anything that would help me catch LM&G is good.

Those are are out in the open and easy to see of course. But then again, the obvious is not always the relevant.


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Galvennmeister on May 01, 2007, 06:15:59 pm
Hmm... I really don't knaw what Vallagger has with me. He is wise in interdiminsional things and Thallium, but why be so bad with me? That's why I hate him.


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Grakelin on May 01, 2007, 08:35:46 pm
Where I'm from (east Canada), I can live off about 10k a year, so I could be very comfortable
with a yearly alotment of 30k+.



Either you're joking, or you don't know what you're missing.

Although, I'd imagine it would be possible without kids. Or a spouse.


Title: Re: Poll: If you suddenly got lots of money...
Post by: Lukipela on May 01, 2007, 08:44:31 pm
Where I'm from (east Canada), I can live off about 10k a year, so I could be very comfortable
with a yearly alotment of 30k+.



Either you're joking, or you don't know what you're missing.

Although, I'd imagine it would be possible without kids. Or a spouse.


If you are smart with your money it's not that hard to get by on smaller sums. For instance, I live in the centre of a medium sized city in Finland (Åbo) and share a 2 room apartment in the city centre with my girlfriend who is still studying. We both get by quite well on my wage (approx 30.000 €/year) and even manage to put some away for savings. And this is in one of the more expensive E.U countries. I wasn't trying to save money for the future, I could live quite comfortably as it is. Even with saving money, my life isn't exactly filled with hardships.

Of course, this might be because I'm handling the economy. My girlfriends response to this thread was "Well I'd obviously use it all, money is made for spending. There's no point in just having it."