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Title: Need some help dealing with the Mycon.
Post by: Hurk Fun on October 16, 2007, 06:47:30 am
I can't seem to get the Syreen to go to war with the Mycon. I've got all three egg cases, and I've spoken with the Mycon over and over again, yet they've only barely mentioned the Deep Children or whatever the hell. Even when I go to their homeworld at Epsilon Scorpii,  I can't ask them about the Children. My only options are a bunch of pleas for peace and understanding (which they of course won't listen to), a threat, and asking what the Shattered Worlds are. Asking about the Worlds only gets them to say "these are the homes of the Deep Children" or something like that, and the rest get different responses each time.

When I go back and talk to the Syreen right now, my only options are an apparently pointless dialogue about their clothes, and a farewell. They talked about their homeworld plenty the first time I met them, but they won't say crap now.

The only thing I can think of that might help, besides visiting the Mycon homeworld another 10 or 15 times, is trying to get the Trade Master to talk about it; he hasn't mentioned it yet.. That would take time, resources, and fuel, however, all of which I am very short on. It's January, 2159, and I have no money to replenish enough crew to explore dangerous worlds for valuable minerals. Therefore, I must figure out how to get to the Sun Device soon, or I'll have to restart the game and redo unknown hours of work. Considering I've already had to do that once before, I really want to avoid having  to do it again.

Sorry for the long post, but I seem to be sooooo close to finishing the game and I'm getting really tired of hearing about "JUFFO-WUF" and its "PULSING HEAT" or whatever the hell.


Title: Re: Need some help dealing with the Mycon.
Post by: Lukipela on October 16, 2007, 07:19:24 am
Well, the walkthrough (http://uqm.stack.nl/wiki/Walkthrough#Mycon_Sun_Device) suggests you're doing everything right. Are you sure that when you arrive at the homeworld with the fragment you can't ask about it? The knowledge about what the egg fragments can be gained from others than the Mycon (for example it can be bought from the right source). Might want to try that instead?


Title: Re: Need some help dealing with the Mycon.
Post by: Shiver on October 16, 2007, 07:22:10 am
Given the number of people that complain about this part, I swear it must still be bugged.


Title: Re: Need some help dealing with the Mycon.
Post by: waywardoctagon on October 16, 2007, 07:24:15 am
Do you keep multiple saves?  If so, are you sure you're asking from the right one--you didn't, for example, go talk to the Mycon with one save, then reload from a different one later and go talk to the Syreen?  (It sounds as though this isn't the case, but....)


Title: Re: Need some help dealing with the Mycon.
Post by: meep-eep on October 16, 2007, 08:14:52 am
Your character needs to know that the Mycon are responsible before you can talk to the Syreen about it.
You can get this info from the Mycon themselves (the 25th rambling remark), from the Druuge at their homeworld (the third time you ask "What can you tell us about this trade world?"), from the Arilou in space (the second time you ask for info), or from the Melnorme (the 14th piece of info about alien races).
Don't load an earlier save after you acquire this information; it's important that the captain knows, not just you.


Title: Re: Need some help dealing with the Mycon.
Post by: Hurk Fun on October 16, 2007, 09:55:53 pm
Sounds like I have to talk to the Melnorme about it, then. I don't have any credits on me now, but I've already asked them about alien life forms at least nine times already, so it shouldn't be too much of a problem. I'll just have to find another one of the Rainbow Worlds. So far I've only seen one, but I gather that there are at least ten of them.

And yes, I do keep multiple save states. I like to experiment, and I don't want to have to restart the entire game if I run out of time.

By the way, do the Melnorme ever offer any technology that increases your lander's resistance to the elements? That would be extremely helpful for exploring dangerous planets. Right now, I don't see how it's possible to mine worlds such as Venus and the Mycon's Shattered Worlds.


Title: Re: Need some help dealing with the Mycon.
Post by: Elvish Pillager on October 16, 2007, 09:59:10 pm
By the way, do the Melnorme ever offer any technology that increases your lander's resistance to the elements?
Yes.


Title: Re: Need some help dealing with the Mycon.
Post by: Hurk Fun on October 16, 2007, 10:06:33 pm
Awesome, thanks. I already have the more powerful laser, but I never got anything past that. How much do you have to buy before they offer the lander defense upgrades?

EDIT: The deed is done! I got the Melnorme to tell me about the Children, and from there, everything has worked out fine. Thanks for your help!


Title: Re: Need some help dealing with the Mycon.
Post by: Bluey on October 17, 2007, 10:06:23 pm
I still don't get this part. I hadn't found the egg shell things, the Mycon had never said anything about the Deep Children, yet when I talked to Talana the first time, I was able to tell her that I figured the Mycon might've blown up the old Syreen home. I still had to go get evidence of course, but I was able to say something about it. Maybe since I had been destroyed by Mycon patrols SEVERAL DOZEN TIMES, the captain was just looking for any excuse to get the Mycon beaten up.

I think, at least... it's been quite a while now that I think about it...


Title: Re: Need some help dealing with the Mycon.
Post by: Dancing Fungus on October 17, 2007, 10:34:23 pm
Have the Syreen already asked you to liberate their ships? Or did Talana just ask for proof of the Mycon's activities after you told her? When I played, I learned the info from the Melnorme and told the Syreen all about it and they wanted me to bring them proof before they promised to attack the Mycon. Did you ask the Melnorme?