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The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release => General UQM Discussion => Topic started by: Technomancer on January 02, 2008, 11:10:00 pm



Title: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: Technomancer on January 02, 2008, 11:10:00 pm
I've never before played UQM or SCII and I'm having trouble in the very beginning of the game...once I find Earth, get threatened, I decided to run away to some random planetary system nearby. I get attacked by the weird drone things and then die...it is so tough to move the ship around to fight them since they are so much faster. Are all fights like that?  :-\

Also, its really tough to understand what I need to do. I mean, I know i need to get to Earth, but once i get yelled at, then what?


Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: Dakkus on January 02, 2008, 11:16:35 pm
I've never before played UQM or SCII and I'm having trouble in the very beginning of the game...once I find Earth, get threatened, I decided to run away to some random planetary system nearby. I get attacked by the weird drone things and then die...it is so tough to move the ship around to fight them since they are so much faster. Are all fights like that?  :-\

Also, its really tough to understand what I need to do. I mean, I know i need to get to Earth, but once i get yelled at, then what?

What makes you think the drone is actually going to summon somebody there? Maybe everyone's fled and there's nobody out there to come kill you and the drone's just fooling you. Whenever there's something that feels dangerous, just save the game and do what they just said you should not do. If you end up losing an ally, load the savegame and solve the situation differently :)
If you die while escaping anyway, what's the point of escaping?-)

And then.. Absolutely great hearing we've got new blood among us! Days of jubilation!


Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: countchocula86 on January 03, 2008, 05:42:36 am
Be brave my friend! Youre travelling in an ancient ship made by a highly advanced species on a mission to liberate earth! You must persevere!!

If the drone has gone off to find help, all the more reason for you to establish a base of operations even more. But youll need to find someone sympathetic to your cause. Perhaps the Starbase commander, he is human after all. He can't possibly want to be an Ur-Quan slave forever, can he?


Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: Resh Aleph on January 03, 2008, 06:13:51 am
Yeah, I always wondered why the Ur-Quan don't send anything. Surely they can spare a few Dreadnoughts per enslaved race, even during the Doctrinal Conflict.


Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: Koowluh on January 03, 2008, 10:14:39 am
Yeah, I always wondered why the Ur-Quan don't send anything. Surely they can spare a few Dreadnoughts per enslaved race, even during the Doctrinal Conflict.

*spoiler*

The drone is intercepted by the Ilwrath.



Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: Resh Aleph on January 03, 2008, 11:43:39 am
Hey, that sounds familiar!
I guess I need to play the game again. :P


Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: Technomancer on January 03, 2008, 12:30:46 pm
Thanks guys...This games a little tricky to figure out, but it is still very very good for any game, and when I remember its from 1992 I realize how much better it must have been! :-)

So I am not supposed to be able to fight the encounter in deep space?


Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: Megagun on January 03, 2008, 12:53:47 pm
Remember, you're on a mission to help Earth with fighting the Ur-Quan. When you find that the Earth is covered in a red shield, and that a drone approaches you which originates from the aliens you're on a mission to fight against, ofcourse you'll NOT run away and instead investigate the Earth and the Station orbiting around it.

From there, the game should pretty much give you hints about what to do..


Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: Novus on January 03, 2008, 02:12:11 pm
I've never before played UQM or SCII and I'm having trouble in the very beginning of the game...once I find Earth, get threatened, I decided to run away to some random planetary system nearby.
A little more tenacity may help. Remember, you're limping into Sol with a barely functional starship and minimal fuel, and space is full of nasty stuff.

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I get attacked by the weird drone things and then die...it is so tough to move the ship around to fight them since they are so much faster. Are all fights like that?  :-\
I think you mean Probes, not Drones (the distinction will become clearer later on). Note that you have two ships at the start of the game; your flagship (the Vindicator or whatever you've named it) and an Earthling Cruiser. The flagship is utterly useless in combat at the start of the game; the Cruiser has homing missiles, short-large laser defences and is actually capable of some sort of manoeuvring.

In any case, it's not impossible to take the Probes out, but it would help to be better prepared. The fact that you are immediately attacked by ridiculous amounts of fast-moving and hard-to-destroy Probes at the start of the game should tell you something about your chosen plan of action.

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Also, its really tough to understand what I need to do. I mean, I know i need to get to Earth, but once i get yelled at, then what?
Some exploration of Earth and its near vicinity, in order to determine what happened to Earth in the Ur-Quan war, is in order. After all, the drone said it was going away to get help, so you should have time to see if there's anyone around to help you before the Ur-Quan armada arrives on your doorstep and proceeds to enslave and/or annihilate you.


Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: countchocula86 on January 04, 2008, 12:28:28 am
I think the best advice I can give ya is save. Save often. Im sure lots of people got through this game on their first try; Im not nearly that skilled. I died....a lot. So just keep trying, learn from mistakes, practice certain ship v. ship combos in the melee.


Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: Technomancer on January 04, 2008, 12:58:08 pm
Thanks a lot guys! I am now up to the Soq-Pot-Fot thingy! Just got enough resources to get the fuel to go there and back, so should go there now...and you're right...once u talk to the Hayes things get easier...but fights are still tough!!! :)



Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: Technomancer on January 04, 2008, 12:59:20 pm
sorry for the double post ummmmm how do u free Earth from the shield?


Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: Galactic on January 04, 2008, 03:05:57 pm
I don't think you're that far in the game yet. I can tell you, that happens in the very end of the game. Now, you should just explore   the space and listen to and talk to races there.

HINT:  you want to visit Alpha Centauri soon.


Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: countchocula86 on January 04, 2008, 05:28:57 pm
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sorry for the double post ummmmm how do u free Earth from the shield?
Thats pretty much your final goal, alongside defeating the Ur-Quan. The problem is the slave shield is a helluva piece of technology. Beyond our scope anyways. But there are several races who are much more advanced  than we are. One of them was even our ally in the first war. Talk to Hayes (the Starbase commander) about history and alien races.

Perhaps if you explore more, as youre building up allies, youll meet someone, or get hints on how to remove the slave shield.




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Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: Technomancer on January 05, 2008, 05:26:22 am
So I got the Spathi to join me...yay :) Alpha Centauri has the weird trader people....buit i dont find anything they need... :/

Will the Ilwrath listen to me, or are they a lost cause??


Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: Galactic on January 05, 2008, 09:49:42 am
buit i dont find anything they need... :/


Scan for "Biological" on planets. When you find some, kill them, take them with you, and take them to those traders.


Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: Technomancer on January 05, 2008, 04:04:02 pm
where do I go to destroy the probes?? I NEED to get rid of them, fast :P


Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: Technomancer on January 05, 2008, 04:48:06 pm
I found the homeworld of the SLylandro, but they wont tell me how to destroy the probes!!


Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: Cedric6014 on January 05, 2008, 09:09:53 pm
Yeah they will - if you keep talking to them (they like to talk).


Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: meep-eep on January 05, 2008, 11:08:35 pm
You need to have encountered a probe in your current storyline. Loading an earlier savegame and continuing doesn't count.


Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: Technomancer on January 06, 2008, 01:59:55 am
kk...i am now far ahead...met the birdos, went to zotfotpic, spaffi hid, all that...this is a fun game, even after all these years! Got my friends addicted! :P So will they actually make a new game for it?


Title: Re: Hey Everyone! New Here, and need a little help...
Post by: countchocula86 on January 06, 2008, 02:56:54 am
Well there was an SC3, but not made by the same people as SC2, and therefore generally regarded as vastly inferior

As far as I understand it, the creators of SC2 would love to make a real SC3, but would need a financial backer to take on the project (and I imagine none of the big companies are interested in rehashing a relatively unknown game.