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The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release => General UQM Discussion => Topic started by: Arne on March 08, 2008, 12:11:49 pm



Title: Pinups
Post by: Arne on March 08, 2008, 12:11:49 pm
Hi. It's time for pinups.


To achive likeness, I'm trying to take the following into consideration:

  • Communications image
  • Melee pilot image
  • Printed images (manuals and guide books if canon)
  • Communications text and conveyed feel
  • Printed text
  • Mental image (varies from person to person though.)

And on top of that the design should be good of course.

Without further ado, I'll start with:

THRADDASH
Can't decide here. Tried some morphs between the different images and descriptions. I'm throwing in a Syreen for scale reference.
(http://androidarts.com/starcontrol/thraddash_08.jpg)
For comparison:
(http://androidarts.com/starcontrol/ref_thraddash.gif)



UTWIG
I based their anatomy on the word 'Twig'. Balls for head.
(http://androidarts.com/starcontrol/utwig_08.jpg)



SHOFIXTI
Could vary in appearance just like house cats do. Maybe they have a lot of latent/dormant genes to prevent inbreeding.
(http://androidarts.com/starcontrol/shofixti_08.jpg)



ILWRATH
- Not buying it this time guys!
- But... but... we're evil! Look how scary it is! Argarak, do the mandible thing again!
*Clac clac clac*

(http://androidarts.com/starcontrol/ilwrath_08.jpg)



UMGAH
(Cccombo breaker for the ladies)
- What on earth? Get your ass back aboard! DEFECTED? To the Umgah? "That's how you roll"? Good Grief Hayes!
(http://androidarts.com/starcontrol/umgah_08.jpg)



Next time, some time: Spathi, ZFP, Pkunk, Yehat, VUX, Druuge, Mycon, Chenjesu, Slylandro, Mmrnmhrm, Taalo. Yeah, well, the rest of them.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Arne on March 08, 2008, 01:33:49 pm

- Good Grief! Is... is that you, Hayes?
- Changed your mind have you? Well, it's a little late for that now Hayes.
- "Har Har Har"?
- Aha. You like it there.
- That's a great joke Hayes. Don't call us again.

(http://androidarts.com/starcontrol/harhar.jpg)


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Arne on March 08, 2008, 02:05:00 pm
- Sigh... it's Hayes again.
- Yeah, that's a funny hat Hayes.
- "Lost a few pounds"... That's swell Hayes.
- Go to bed Hayes. Go to bed.

(http://androidarts.com/starcontrol/harhar2.jpg)


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: AngusThermopyle on March 08, 2008, 02:32:25 pm
lol, this stuff is priceless! Nice work!


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: meep-eep on March 08, 2008, 03:18:08 pm
Excellent pictures again.

I've always thought of the Thraddash as a bit warthog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warthog)-like. The two-eyed Thraddash is more as everyone will know them, so I think you should stick to two eyes. What you see in the melee image could be a pressure suit or something similar.

I like all of the Utwig. But masks are a central part of their culture, so I don't think you'd soon see one without one. It also seems that they would normally change masks quite often; I don't expect them to change their entire outfit. So the rest of the clothes may not necessarilly closely match their masks.

For the Shofixti I think it's important that they don't look like all the other furries out there. The leftmost one looks too much like an Ewok (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ewok) to me. I'd make them a bit larger too.

The Ilwrath should remain genuinely threatening, imho. And I'd expect that everyone would soon find out about it if they were basically puppets. Well-executed though.

The Umgah are just right. They can look as they want, and I suspect they will; so I would expect Umgah in all kinds of shapes. Though I guess "blob" seems the be the dominant form.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Pkunkfury on March 08, 2008, 07:38:15 pm
fantastic! I really like very much this work! and the syreens are very very sexy  ;)


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Defender on March 09, 2008, 12:26:20 am
I like b2 image for the Thraddash. I assume that when there in there ships the pressure suite is to protect them from the heat of the high intensity afterburner.

For the Utwig, the 4th one over from the right looks and feels correct to me.

The Shofixti look a little like Stitch form Lilo and Stitch. But they fit the bill alright.

I have to agree with meep that the Ilwrath need to be more scary in there original form .

Umgah, second one over from the bottom right. That one is dead on perfect.

And ouh la la to the Syreen. She's got a certain anime quality to her.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Shiver on March 09, 2008, 12:29:08 am
The Thraddash B series looks the best to me. Isn't B1 just B2 without any clothes?

The Shofixtis seem a little too small for my taste. If that's canon you can disregard what I'm saying, but I don't think it is.

That Ilwrath isn't intimidating enough, but Arne already seems to realize that.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Anthony on March 09, 2008, 01:43:24 am
lol, this stuff is priceless! Nice work!

Arne, you have placed the U back in cult following.  Good work!  I <3 Syreen :P


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Arne on March 09, 2008, 06:28:43 am
After the partial destruction of the ZFP homeworld by the Kohr-Ah, the ZFP realized that keeping all the eggs in one basket is not such a good idea. They contacted the Melnorme, who soon purchased bio data collected by the ZFP scouts... along with a collection of canopic jars allegedly containing remains of a Zebranky. This netted the ZFP some 450 credits, which they promptly spent on design guidelines for a starbase with an advanced Point Defence and Fusion Blaster defensive system. This new Starbase design would be used to establish several remote colonies.

The Umgah had found out about the deal, and immediately offered over fifteen hundred credits worth of information for the Zebranky data - an offer the Melnorme could not resist.

What happened next is shrouded in mystery since the Umgah lost contact with the secret colony where the experiments on the bio data took place. Nevertheless, the Umgah were overjoyed by the end result.

The Zebranky are returning home.

(http://androidarts.com/starcontrol/zfp_zebranky_08.jpg)


Re: Shofixti - I think they should be small because they breed and mature fast. I try to stay away from too human in proportion looking aliens.

Utwig - Yeah, they probably wear masks most of the time, maybe they're trying to make up for ugly balls head. With the masks being so central, they might mean 'change clothes' when they say change mask. Clothes gotta match the mask I think. It's fun to play around with clothes on aliens since most of the other aliens are just nude-ish.

Ilwrath - There are 2 images here, comm (red) and pilot (black 5 legged).

Thraddash - Interesting idea with a pressure suit. It doesn't look like one though (with the mouth and tongue), but it could be adapted. Maybe the mouth is a visor. It would be interesting to go more rhino on the anatomy. The B* versions are just morphed humans now, and I think more interesting things could be done.




Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: countchocula86 on March 09, 2008, 08:11:10 am
I approve of the Syreen babes present in each races sketch set


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Arne on March 09, 2008, 08:39:11 am
Rough first concept of a Thraddash Hardsuit.

(http://androidarts.com/starcontrol/thraddash_hardsuit.jpg)

I'm thinking the Thraddash should be B but with the chest of C, cuz they have natural armour plating or samething, and it'd make them more alien.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: meep-eep on March 09, 2008, 11:04:41 am
Thraddash - Interesting idea with a pressure suit. It doesn't look like one though (with the mouth and tongue), but it could be adapted. Maybe the mouth is a visor. It would be interesting to go more rhino on the anatomy. The B* versions are just morphed humans now, and I think more interesting things could be done.

Ah, now they are like I imagined them.

The "tongues" could be oxygen tubes. Note that they are only present when the afterburner is on. Maybe noxious gasses are released in the process. Or maybe a more oxygen-rich environment is needed when your chest is pressed together by the extreme G forces. (Substitute "oxygen" with any other gas that the Thraddash may depend on.)


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Cedric6014 on March 09, 2008, 10:18:55 pm
I approve of the Syreen babes present in each races sketch set

The Thraddash, Umgah and Utwig are awesome. I’d prefer to never see and Utwig with it’s mask off though.

The Syreen is cute and well drawn. However, she doesn’t quite evoke the image of a Syreen that I had when playing either SC game. I imagined something a bit more womanly, and not as girlish. I dislike anime (I’m sure I’m in the minority) and she’s a bit too much like that. She looks like a 14 year old.

Otherwise, we’re very lucky to have a such a great artist who loves Star Control – especially considering our tiny fandom.

More pics please!  :)




Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: countchocula86 on March 10, 2008, 05:28:26 am
Quote
I imagined something a bit more womanly
Hehe something more buxom, curvaceous


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Arne on March 10, 2008, 07:50:56 am
Revised Thraddash:
(http://androidarts.com/starcontrol/thraddash3_08.jpg)


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Censored on March 10, 2008, 08:17:57 am
Excellent work. I love the Syreen proportion factor.. though, maybe a boob job?  ;D

The Hayes part was a bit spooky!  :o


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Megagun on March 10, 2008, 03:09:45 pm
Wow, revised thraddash is....
...amazing! :O

I dislike anime (I’m sure I’m in the minority)
Don't be too sure of that, Cedric. I'm not too fond of it either..
Syreen look neat though.. ;)


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Dancing Fungus on March 10, 2008, 03:56:09 pm
Nice work, love the Thraddash power suit. But the Zebranky look too Pokemon-ish for my tastes.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: mimafogeus on March 10, 2008, 07:20:44 pm
Wonderful work!

I've always imagined the Shofixti a little larger, and kinda stouter though. Like a mixture between a rodent and a Tolkienian dwarf.

The Thraddash and Umgah is excellent! A nice idea about the Umgah's original form.

The Zebranky really looks like something off the ZoqFotPik homeworld. Are the ZoqFotPik in scale?


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Neonlare on March 10, 2008, 07:40:38 pm
Wow, what software do you use for this Arne? This stuff looks fantastic :p.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Elerium on March 10, 2008, 08:59:44 pm
Wow. That Thraddash power suit is spot on :)


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Arne on March 11, 2008, 04:59:04 am
Yeah, I'm somewhat into anime and Pokémon styled cute creatures. My style is an amalgam really.

Supox exploration, not to scale yet.
1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9
(http://androidarts.com/starcontrol/supox_roughs.jpg)

Photoshop 5.5 and Wacom intous 1 A4.
ZFP could be a little larger perhaps, but I'm not sure about making Shofixti larger. I always thought of them as dog sized little tribbles.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: countchocula86 on March 11, 2008, 06:30:58 am
I never though of the Shofixti as small, but honestly seeing your drawings, and keeping in mind their rapid, erm, birthrate and their small ships, I think it fits nicely.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: evktalo on March 11, 2008, 11:58:10 am
Awww, the original Umgah is so cute. And very mischievous-looking too. Great work overall - I think the latest Thraddash is spot-on. I agree about the Syreens looking too girly, even if they're very cute.

--Eino


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Arne on March 11, 2008, 12:29:28 pm
Yet another rough... This time the Earthlings. They're based on the pilot portrait (mini pic when i melee). I surprised myself with the spandex look. Not sure if it's good or bad. I could use similar color masses, but a different material (armour bits, puffy cloth, whatever).
(http://androidarts.com/starcontrol/earthlings_08.jpg)


This is not particulary faithful... maybe it's a refit or new model...
(http://androidarts.com/starcontrol/cruiser-refit2.jpg)

...but when shown small and against a black background my re-design looks somewhat similar to original because of mass placement and value.
(http://androidarts.com/starcontrol/cruiser-refit2_small.jpg)


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Cedric6014 on March 11, 2008, 08:05:56 pm
Looks faithful enough to me!

Nice work the the Supox too. It must have been somewhat tricky to somhow add legs. I think I like #3 and #6.



Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Amiga_Nut on March 12, 2008, 04:28:21 am
WTG Arne...    All awesome. Very well done. True to core.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Arne on March 12, 2008, 06:39:54 am
Revised.

From left to right. Maybe early to late timeline.

1: Based on SC1 melee selection pic. Most of those are a bit different than the ingame ships. I think it has fun and simple proportions, kind of like a stick with engines and a dish. I rotated and scaled up the sprite and drew over it.

2: Based on SC1 (Amiga) ingame ship. It has different engines and a longer forward gun.

3: Based on SC1 data pic and SC2 ingame ship. Used the blue side knobs. Too gritty.

4: My own thing. Not sure what to think of it. Would be cool to draw precursor addons.

(http://androidarts.com/starcontrol/cruiser-refit3.jpg)

Edit:
(http://androidarts.com/starcontrol/cruiser-refit3_small.jpg)

Edit: Thinking about it, I like the #1 so much that I might use it as a caricature template for the rest of the designs.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: countchocula86 on March 12, 2008, 02:43:25 pm
I think number 3 is my favourite Cruiser


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Defender on March 13, 2008, 12:46:33 am
# 4 is a Precursor modified Cruiser or as I'd like to call it: The hell-bringer of death and destruction! Eat Flaming Plasma Missile, maggot! HAHAHA!

Oh...sorry...got carried away... :P I like # 4.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Shiver on March 13, 2008, 06:42:43 am
(In response to Arne's cruiser)

Put 3's head on 2's body. The little launcher sticking way out looks silly, and so do those blue ridges.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Waylander on March 13, 2008, 10:36:00 am
First of all all your art is great two thumbs up.

I think the shofixti are gonna be a problem to work out though because you only see like one in the game. I don't think we can assume that they are tiny just because their ship is though, the arilou ship is about the same size and it holds the same amount of  crew members as shofixti and the arilou are roughly human sized. I always thought that the shofixti's life cycle was similar to that of 'Kes' from Star Trek: Voyager. Her races average life cycle is like 10 years and she is mature at less than one.

Apart from that 2 thumbs and a tentacle up for your artwork, good job!


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: alanahikarichan on March 13, 2008, 04:43:55 pm
I always imagined the Shofixti taller and more slender-- arboreal-looking, with opossum- or rat-like hands and feet. But then, I always got the impression that they evolved in a warm jungle climate; your Shofixti look more cold- or temperate-climate, which is equally valid, I suppose. ^^

I agree with some of the other posters that your Syreen are cute, but not NEARLY *waves her hands in an hourglass shape* curvaceous enough. XD;; On the other hand, I entirely approve of your hilarious Hayes. Hahaha~

The latest Thraddash are AWESOME. <3

For the humans, I'm guessing what we see in the Melee pics is a pressure suit of some kind, to keep the pilot-and-crew from dying the instant the hull is breached, in which case the suit should probably be more... pressurized. XD Not necessarily a SPACE suit, but closer to what a fighter pilot would wear, perhaps? JUST AN IDEA.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Simon K on March 14, 2008, 12:24:31 am
Great bloody artwork!

I leave these forums for a couple months, and when I get back everything's overflowing with awesome. Next you guys will be telling me the Precursors finished the Syreen and Yehat remixes!


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Simon K on March 14, 2008, 12:25:20 am
Also,

I'd love to see your take on the Arilou, Yehat and Melnorme. :)


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Death 999 on March 14, 2008, 05:12:02 pm
And the Dnyarri. With the syreen around, for scale of course, and most especially for the Dnyarri's amusement. </evil>


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Arne on March 15, 2008, 12:16:17 pm
Derailed!

(http://www.androidarts.com/starflight/starflight1_lineup4.jpg)

I have some SC stuff done too, but I need to clean it up.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: countchocula86 on March 15, 2008, 03:26:00 pm
Not StarCon, but still amazingly awesome stuff!!


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Elvish Pillager on March 15, 2008, 08:01:40 pm
I want to know what is the creature in the top middle? >_<


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Death 999 on March 17, 2008, 05:10:42 pm
I think it's a hunam.

Having just finished Snow Crash, I looked at that and thought, "Where's YT's plank?"


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Clay on March 21, 2008, 03:04:59 am
This is awesome stuff, Arne! I had no idea such an artist was resident on the forums.  I'm glad I came out of lurk mode in time to catch this thread before it's buried in the annals of time.

Actually, come to think of it, I think I did see someone repost some of your very old stuff...or maybe I came across your website? Was little cartoony doodles for some sort of Asteroids looking game...or maybe I'm totally confused.

Do you have a gallery of your work online?


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Captain Mazda on March 21, 2008, 08:08:42 am
You've got some serious talent, Arne. Keep up the beautiful work =)


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: waywardoctagon on March 21, 2008, 08:15:43 am
...Awesome.  Especially the Supox. 8D


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Simon K on March 21, 2008, 12:29:22 pm
Nice Starflight fanart too.

Now do an Uhlek. ;-)


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: pyrrhocorax on March 27, 2008, 06:49:33 pm
Your stuff is so awesome. I know plenty of talented artists, but barely any whose design process is so rigorous and creative. 

The shofixi always made me think of red pandas, so their small size seems to fit.  They probably birth litters as well?

The syreen saving the fot(?) from the zebranky is great. Why do you think they have blue skin? I figured it could be something they ate, like flamingoes and algae. Or maybe the arilou just liked blue.

I think I like the top and bottom middle supox the best, because the 'root' part is more obvious. They probably dig themselves in at night.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Arne on March 28, 2008, 12:23:15 am
Thanks for the replies. Like I said, I derailed and did some Starflight stuff:

http://icc.starflight3.org/index.php?topic=840.0

But I did put up a quick and dirty Star Control page here:

http://www.androidarts.com/starcontrol/star_control.htm

It's far from everything I've made, I'll put that up later some time.


Re: Uhlek... I'm not sure those have a body,
(click to show/hide)

Re: site, yeah, I have a few, the latest one is http://www.androidarts.com/

Re: Syreen color. We have a word in swedish, Blåsyra (blue acid). It's used in some blue colors (Berliner Blue). In Swedish *Syra is added to names of some plants with a sour/acid taste and we say some candy has a 'Syrlig' taste (often acidic-sweet). Anyways, this is why I've always imagined the Syreens turning blue from eating blue acidic berries - their planet is called Syra.





Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Zieman on March 28, 2008, 01:51:11 pm
http://www.androidarts.com/

This is great! :D

Commodore 64 BASIC  ;).


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Pkunkfury on April 05, 2008, 12:35:18 pm
I really think you're a genious and I really hope you'll have a big future because your drawings are fantastic.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Censored on April 05, 2008, 02:00:05 pm
It occured to me you didn't do the Ur-Quan (either of them). I imagine the scale to be quite large in comparison to hunams. Maybe even 5 times larger? that should be interesting.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Valaggar Redux on April 06, 2008, 07:29:53 pm
The Ur-Quan can get to over 10 meters long, according to the Star Control II manual (page 66).


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Pkunkfury on April 08, 2008, 07:43:05 pm
I've seen the coded girls page in your website :)  very nice!!!


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: JHGuitarFreak on April 30, 2008, 02:31:15 pm
I've seen the coded girls page in your website :)  very nice!!!


took me a bit to figure it out, but then again i've been up for 18 hours with only 4 hours of sleep

always love a challenge, especially with a reward at the end  ;D

Awesome work on those sketches Arne, but my 2 cents on the hunam refit is that it's a little more trrekish than the original especially when you went to the 2 pylon based thrusters with only a strip of hull to connect them. i really don't have any suggestions for improvements, cause all the ideas i have are more of a mix of bsg and trek  ::) :P


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: PakoPako on May 05, 2008, 11:42:17 pm
Liked Thraddash B2... but the others... could they be previous Cultures?

-=PakoPako=-


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Razorback on May 08, 2008, 02:57:47 am
There's some great work Arne!  You should consider sending some samples of it to Toys for Bob, and see if they would like it enough to comission you to work on SC-related material for them.  Would it be possible for you to include links to larger versions of those pictures in the future?  I'd really like to see some of that stuff in closer detail.

Okunkfury... what coded girls?


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Pkunkfury on May 08, 2008, 10:30:10 pm
There's some great work Arne!  You should consider sending some samples of it to Toys for Bob, and see if they would like it enough to comission you to work on SC-related material for them.  Would it be possible for you to include links to larger versions of those pictures in the future?  I'd really like to see some of that stuff in closer detail.

Okunkfury... what coded girls?

this page:
http://www.itchstudios.com/psg/main.php?id=misc

there's a trick to enter in the page...but if you success you'll be happy! :)


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Censored on May 08, 2008, 11:58:02 pm

this page:
http://www.itchstudios.com/psg/main.php?id=misc

there's a trick to enter in the page...but if you success you'll be happy! :)


Oooh!


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: countchocula86 on May 09, 2008, 04:23:48 am
Cant figure out that last one haha, oh well


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: waywardoctagon on May 09, 2008, 04:29:16 am
I think the bar's a little low; I could have done this in middle school.  Needs more calculus!  ;)


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Particleman42 on May 09, 2008, 04:41:20 am
Yeah, those puzzles were not as hard as I was expecting. Nice pics however!


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: countchocula86 on May 09, 2008, 05:13:57 am
Well now I just feel stupid


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Resh Aleph on May 09, 2008, 12:04:27 pm
Don't worry, they're only saying that to impress the ladies.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Valaggar Redux on May 09, 2008, 03:14:47 pm
Hints for the last sequence:

When Arne says that the right answer "includes shifting with wraparound and a sneaky increment", he isn't talking about the sort of wraparound that happens to C's integers. Also, "includes" could actually be replaced with "is". Also, the aforementioned wraparound, unlike the incrementing, is applied each time a new member of the sequence is computed.

Giveaway (Spoilers): To compute a new member in the series, change the last letter to the next letter in the alphabet (except for the letter o); then, take the last letter and put it in front of the word (this is to be done if the last letter is o, too). So the next member is "goco".


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: Death 999 on May 09, 2008, 04:37:08 pm
Don't worry, they're only saying that to impress the ladies.
I don't know how impressed a lady is going to be by one's serious efforts to look at girly pics.


Title: Re: Pinups
Post by: countchocula86 on May 09, 2008, 09:16:40 pm
That last puzzle is just not my cup of tea I guess :P Thanks for the hints Val, but I think its still gonna take me some thinkin.