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I havent played this game in years, and I dont remember ever finishing it.  So I spent last weekend playing the game nonstop, but unfortunately I didnt take good notes, and I didnt want to use a walk through.  Well, I didnt realize there was a time limit to my mission and the Kohr-Ah started wiping out the galaxy.

 ???Can I still win? Or should I just organize my notes and use them for the next try? ???



Next time I wont use my SC1 strategy of slow and methodical.  I just wanted to make sure there wasnt a single mineral in the galaxy that we didnt mine.  ;D

If they've not yet cleansed races crucial to success, yes, if they have, no. ;D

Not really. It's very possible to win once they begin their march. In fact, if you play the 'evil' way, you're counting on the Kohr-Ah to do some dirty work for you. You just have to know exactly where to go and do it fast.

Moderator edit: big spoilers removed.

That's some spoiler  :o

Damn... could have used that spoiler.  ;D


It is pretty much a loss cause...  all that are left are the Yehat and the Ilwrath, and I never got to the Utwig or Thraddash to finish building the device or getting the bomb, if you need the bomb, I am just assuming I do.  :'(

Anyhow... I started over, but now I save my game at Sol, plot out my route and scan all the planets ahead of time.  That way I know where all the goodies are and I dont waste much valued time and fuel searching needlessly a bunch of dead planets/systems.  I also plan on trying to hit as many of the 'plot line triggers' along each run.  Right now I am still plotting out my map to Rigel and the ZFP, hit the Spathi on the way, the Orz and Vela on the way back, and should be able to fill all six of my cargo bays.

It also helps that I just need my Spathi that can destroy the whole universe!   :P That means I dont have to arm the flagship and I can use that money and space for more fuel and cargo bays.

I hope to beat this 15 year old game someday!

I dont want to use a walk through, but if you all have any other advice as to saving time, I much welcome it.

It's certainly possible to still win, but really only if you manage to find the locations you need to go to to pick up certain items rather quickly, before the Kohr-Ah arrive at Sol... The game gives you a 'workaround' for races which possess stuff 'critical' to overall success...

As others have stated, you can win, but I think you really need to know all the aspects of the game for it to work out. Id be curious if anyone managed a win after the Kohr-Ah deathwave has begun on their first run through the game.

You actually don't. You just need to pick up the bomb. Which should just be lying there if there are no Utwig to guard it?


Find Rainbow Worlds for plenty of Bio Units? Talk to the Spathi (both random and high council) about their knowledge of the old Alliance races? Talk with all the old Heirarchy races?

The old Androsynth space has plenty of RU; make sure you've got lots of cargo space.
Beware of the Lander limits; don't pick up a big piece of mineral if you don't have much space. (you can actually count the empty bars)
Be wary of making multiple trips onto planets; some require lots of fuel and may not have enough minerals to warrant it.
Be wary of collecting bio data as certain creatures are more rewarding than others and you can also top off.
The two most rewarding bio-forms are the Spathi-esque emus and the giant walking green cylinder.
Several races will <I>give</i> you free ships; sell these for cash.
The Druuge will offer you unlimited fuel for certain (necessary) story-items; once you're done with them, feel free to trade them away... and bring a dozen empty hi-ef fuel tanks too.

-=PakoPako=-

No, a single Evil One hardly give any data at all. Or are you talking about something else?


Please use lowercase i's if you want it to work. ;)


You don't need any of the items you can sell to the Druuge. The Burvix Caster has no use at all if you have the Umgah Caster, and you don't need the Quasispace Portal Spawner; it just makes travel quicker and cheaper.

I caution people to please spoiler sensitive information. Sure 99% of the people who use the forum have done the game several times over, but if someone new to the experience comes in looking for information on these strage Kohr-Ah, well theyll get a lot of information thats more fun to discover on your own.

Well, you don't see a new SC2 player very often. But still, you're right. The best way to hide spoilers is to reduce the size to the lowest possible.

I had started over... but still have my game saved with the K-A marching toward Sol.  I just figured I couldnt pick up the Utwig Bomb.  I will head over, pick it up, kill all the K-A with Fwiffo and rule the universe forever....bwuhahahaha...er... i mean save the universe and free all the slaves... maybe  ;)

I figured I dont need my flagship for battle once I had a few Spathi Eluders, so I loaded my flagship with nothing but a crew pod and a couple high efficient fuel tanks and nine cargo bays.  I think I have enough money to rule the galaxy now... I mean save the galaxy, thats it.

Right now Im in December of the first year and Ive met the Spathi and the Pkunk and the Arilou, and I have a shitload of RUs and credits (bio units).  I have my Spathi fleet and my QS portal device, and am about to head out to the Shofixti and the Yehat, hit the Vux, the Orz, the ZFP and the Umgah, mining about along the way.  If I have enough fuel left (which I should with over 400 units) I plan on hitting the Thraddash and Zex's Beast so I can swing around back to the Vux and Shofixti before returning to Sol.  Sound like a good enough plan?

I also plan on finishing my original game, now that I know I can still get the bomb.

Thanks for all the advice.

You should get the vortex spawner as soon as possible. It will make travel easier to the point where you will need no more than 100 fuel to accomplish anything. If you plan on mining a lot, then 210 fuel should be more than enough to get rich quick. Don't forget to load a TON of storage bays!

Also, unless you can win flawlessly with an Eluder every single time, you should at least lightly arm the flagship. A Hellbore cannon in the second slot, 1 crew pod, 3 tracking systems, 3 dynamos, 1 hi-ef fuel tank, 1 point defence laser and the rest Shiva Furnaces creates a nearly invincible ship (even without the point-defence). If you want a more lightly armed ship, try a fusion blaster in the second slot, 2 tracking systems, and 1 dynamo. This will protect the flagship well enough in emergencies. Do not use Ion-bolt guns, they are useless.

Something else; it's the little green bowling pin that runs around really fast?


Oops. I was supposed to use [] instead of <>.


Actually, that is true. But I just didn't want to be very specific.


I see other boards on the web (phpBB?) use Spoiler tags, which creates a dark block with black text. To reveal what's hidden, a person would have to highlight the text.


Once you're more experienced with fighting and space exploration, you can play the game again with this as a viable career choice.


It's a good to know your alternatives, make your time, and wipe your mouth with the American flag. Why? Two words: Pre-cursor Terra-effable Bombs. Okay?!
The Umgah, Thraddash, Orz - they can have all the *celebration* they want. They can have a big *Celebration* cake-walk right through the middle of the Galactic Core and it won't make a lick of difference because we've got the bombs, okay?!

-=PakoPako=-

Yeah, I've seen that too. But is that a feature on these forums?

Nope. But maybe you could highlight at the same color as the text! Let's see...

test hiding

It looks like it works! ;D From now on, this is what you can do! (Glow and Font Color of the same color)

It is now...

Why do you need "permissions" to post spoilers?!?! >:(

I have lots of SC1 experience, so I know how to fight... now if I can find one...  ;D


Thanks for the Dennis Leary reference!  :D  I also have whale-skin crew pods and baby seal heads for shiva furnaces.  I drive through hyperspace with one antimatter thruster, sucking down fuel units and throwing non-spacedegratable refuge out the hatch.

It works on Firefox (and possibly other browsers), as glow is actually highlight in this/these browser(s).
But it doesn't work on IE (and possibly other browsers), as glow is actually glow in this/these browser(s).

It's not meant to glow, it's just the background-color property. IE breaks the rules, and SMF cooperates. :-\ It works fine on all the other major browsers (Opera, Safari and Firefox). I wonder if they fixed it in IE8.

But still, why do you need "permissions" to use spoilers?

Correct me if i am wrong on this , but there is no "permission" as such for spoilers posting . However , spoiler , as implied by name , can spoil someones experience on the game , wich will really be a shame .

Frankly, I'm not surprised at IE not being standards compatible. This is why I use Firefox.
Did you mean IE7, or did I miss something and IE8 is actually out?


What are you talking about?

This error message I got when I tried to post a message with a spoiler tag:

Maybe you have the so-called "permissions" that it's talking about, then I understand why you don't know what I'm talking about. But I get this error message when I try to post spoilers.

It's in beta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_8), and it's much more standards compliant than older versions.

I have the same issue. I also can't find a spoiler button, is there one?

Right next to the quote button. The tag is:

Actually, the button is only on the Babylon Theme; the default theme, the YaBB theme, and possibly other themes, don't have the spoiler button.

Welp seeing as I don't have permission to post spoilers, I suppose it doesn't matter whether I see the spoiler button or not.

Maybe you have to highlight the message options to see the spoiler button? (yes i know its a lame joke but it had to be made)

Well I'm on the SMF theme and I see the button. It doesn't really matter, though, I guess. Highlighting at the same color as the text works fine. (Yay, I came up with something useful! And it's my original creation!)

maybe the Admin's or whoever could add another colour font that matches this bluish background so that we can write spoilers?

That only works for people using the default theme. People using a different theme (me, for instance) would see the text quite clearly.

Ah... it appears that you can assign permissions for viewing and posting spoilers to (groups) of people. Being an admin, I didn't notice that others couldn't use them. It should be fixed now.