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The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release => Starbase Café => Topic started by: guesst on June 25, 2008, 09:55:24 pm



Title: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: guesst on June 25, 2008, 09:55:24 pm
Just ran into this on a search for a syreen picture on Google. I thought it must have been old news, some abandoned project, but it's far from abandoned (tho not updating very often).

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/index.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Censored on June 25, 2008, 11:44:46 pm
nice!

I read just the first page (of the prologue) but it looks good. hopefully I'll have time to read some more.




Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Lukipela on June 26, 2008, 06:08:35 pm
That's a really cool find. I read through it and it seems promising. Let's hope he adds another chapter or two soon :)


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on June 26, 2008, 07:29:12 pm
They seem to be once a week with gaps. This will take some time.

I'll sign up for its updates on thewebcomiclist.com


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Draxas on June 26, 2008, 07:33:47 pm
This comic looks really good. Unfortunately, a look over his list of inspirations seems to imply that the only SC influence we're likely to see is the Syreen-analogues. Despite that, the art is really quite nice, and the story seems interesting. I'll definitely make a point to keep tuning in for updates.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Lukipela on June 27, 2008, 07:30:38 am
They seem to be once a week with gaps. This will take some time.

I'll sign up for its updates on thewebcomiclist.com

Gah, the wait is going to kill me. Is there any service that will ping you oncve evey six months or so? That way I'd get a chapter every now and then. Or I suppose I could just set my own claendar to remind me...


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: guesst on June 27, 2008, 05:49:14 pm
Unfortunately, a look over his list of inspirations seems to imply that the only SC influence we're likely to see is the Syreen-analogues.
Do you need any other inspiration? You should see my dual-monitor desktop right now.

And as for updates you can always subscribe to the RSS feed. What? You don't have RSS. Oh, dude, sorry. I didn't know. I thought... well at least you get the nice parking spots.

Seriously, my homepage is the google reader.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Lukipela on June 27, 2008, 06:29:13 pm
Yeah, but I don't think that format lends itself well to just reading one new page. I'd rather wait a bit (much) longer and then read a chapter at once.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on September 22, 2008, 05:12:31 pm
Well, if you do want the one next page, a new one is up as of the 14th.

At this rate, the second chapter will be done in 2011. Or was that 2110?


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Lukipela on September 22, 2008, 05:27:24 pm
And as for updates you can always subscribe to the RSS feed. What? You don't have RSS. Oh, dude, sorry. I didn't know. I thought... well at least you get the nice parking spots.

See, I don't need an RSS feed.  Good old Death_999 comes through for me.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: guesst on October 07, 2008, 09:00:11 pm
New page. (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider056.html)


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Elerium on October 07, 2008, 09:10:01 pm
The artist who does this also frequents the Relicnews forums, a while ago he posted some concept art for a company (I think) that was influenced by Star Control in that he went for a Yehat look for one piece.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Son_of_Antares on October 12, 2008, 04:34:10 am
If you ask me that telepathic space babe looks more like an Elerian from MoO2 than a UQM Syreen. Also when you input the name of your race leader in MoO2 (and you have chosen Elerians) Fireblade is one of the names that computer generates as an automatic choice. Anyway, good find :)


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Arne on October 14, 2008, 06:53:32 am
I think I've seen this guy on some art forum.

I should take a look at this MoO 1/2 game some time. I keep hearing nice things about it.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/ezixl/picture/elerian2.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Battlefrank on December 23, 2008, 03:47:26 am
Holy shit, how many chapters is this guy planning? If it's 10, then he will likely DIE before finishing it!

Sorry, but I can tell that this will go on for a few more years and then be ditched by the creator. It's headed nowhere.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on February 23, 2009, 06:11:41 pm
/me does his same old RSS emulation shtick.

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider057.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Lukipela on February 23, 2009, 06:33:12 pm
See, I don't need an RSS feed.  Good old Death_999 comes through for me.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on February 23, 2009, 06:41:22 pm
That was what I was thinking of when I posted that.

On topic, I find this issue... underwhelming. She did say 'equitable exchange', after all, so the first three panels seem mostly redundant. Perhaps the author is writing so danged slowly that he forgets what the characters just said?

And then the rest of the panels are two long-winded hellos.

I suppose if one were to read this, collected, it would not seem a problem. But at one page per quarter, it kind of drags.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on June 02, 2009, 04:17:43 pm
Updated again.

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider058.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Lukipela on June 02, 2009, 05:47:33 pm
Thanks!

Welp, more stuff we mostly knew. The guy on the screen seems less than pleased with the diplomatic situation. Can't wait another five month to find out what the star system might hold!


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Bigryan on June 02, 2009, 07:41:33 pm
Yeah, this comic is awesome.    Too bad it's written at such a slow pace.  Ah well, I'll check again next year to get the next chapter.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on June 26, 2009, 04:13:55 pm
Whooptee dee and trolly bazzoo, guess who posted not one, not two, but THREE strips!

It seems to be weekly now!


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: guesst on July 02, 2009, 12:48:33 am
Whooptee dee and trolly bazzoo, guess who posted not one, not two, but THREE strips!

It seems to be weekly now!

for now.

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider059.html

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider060.html

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider061.html

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider062.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Lukipela on July 02, 2009, 07:53:32 am
Whooptee dee and trolly bazzoo, guess who posted not one, not two, but THREE strips!

It seems to be weekly now!


Cool, a pity the newest comic is a "TBC" thing. Let's hope he starts the next chapter soon.

Oh and hi guesst, didn't know you still came around here. Recalling your fascination with the SC1 starmap, I'd recommend browsing through the last few posts here (http://www.star-control.com/forum/index.php/topic,1660.msg29507.html#msg29507). Of course you might already know about it.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Angelfish on July 12, 2009, 09:52:48 pm
I guess I'll place my little TVP here ;P


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Lukipela on July 13, 2009, 08:44:02 am
New comic, 063! Also I can't see a TBC strip any more, weird. Maybe I imagined it?


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Novus on July 13, 2009, 11:11:28 am
New comic, 063! Also I can't see a TBC strip any more, weird. Maybe I imagined it?
The "Next" link from the last posted page always points to the "To be continued..." page, to indicate that the following part of the comic is not there yet. It's a placeholder, not an actual page of the comic.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Lukipela on July 13, 2009, 02:47:20 pm
Heh, that explains a lot.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Angelfish on August 09, 2009, 10:44:53 pm
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider064.html :D


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on November 02, 2009, 04:56:39 pm
It updated again.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on November 30, 2009, 04:57:00 pm
and AGAIN! Wiigii!


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Lukipela on November 30, 2009, 06:06:31 pm
Thanks!


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on December 01, 2009, 04:19:06 pm
Yeah, for the first time we're actually getting a clue of what's going on here.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Angelfish on December 02, 2009, 04:02:59 am
Yeah, for the first time we're actually getting a clue of what's going on here.

That's some nice dialogue in that last page :D


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Bigryan on December 07, 2009, 09:32:00 pm
Ah man.  I really wish this story would go quicker.  Its so well done, and the art is amazing.  I hope he publishes, this would sell.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Dabir on December 07, 2009, 11:41:16 pm
No question the art is stunning, but I find the writing to be a little meh. I realise that bolding every other word is practically a comics law, but that doesn't stop it from pissing me off. And all the time, I can't help but think back to
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/fiction_rule_of_thumb.png)
I know there aren't that many made-up words, but when you start thinking of inversely proportional rules of quality there must be something wrong with what you're reading, right? Seems a little stilted, inflexible, and I realise that a large amout of that is down to the diplomatic situation but...


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: CelticMinstrel on December 08, 2009, 03:09:31 am
I haven't been reading this, but... whenever I see a bolded word, I feel it should be emphasized. If there are a lot of bolded words, or they seem to be randomly bolded, it just seems strange.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Dabir on December 08, 2009, 05:23:19 pm
Reading through it, as I do, with all the bolded words read as if they were in CAPITALS, it's very distracting.

"We are PLEASED that the HUMANITY envoy was ABLE to COME ABOARD our ship, but for now there are more PRESSING MATTERS to ATTEND TO."


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on December 08, 2009, 09:47:27 pm
But they're not CAPITALS.

It's very slight bolding. Just enough to notice. I can see why it's done, and I can see why you think it distracting.

As for the made-up words issue...  where are they? I can see only names. Character names, species names. 'Farsensing' is hardly taxing on the memory. If anything, the tech names seem flatly descriptive.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Dabir on December 09, 2009, 12:00:01 am
Yeah, like I said, not sure why it reminds me of that. Probably stuff like "the Little Brother" an' dah.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on March 15, 2010, 03:10:51 pm
as of last week:
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider067.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Lukipela on March 16, 2010, 08:08:40 pm
Yay! The story is interesting, but the pace kind of sucks.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on March 24, 2010, 03:16:21 pm
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider068.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Lukipela on March 28, 2010, 10:33:26 pm
Yay! The story is interesting, but the pace kind of sucks.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on March 30, 2010, 05:37:08 pm
Updated again. The pace has picked up substantially, it seems.

And for once, a character asks certain important questions that don't usually get asked. We are, however, drifting slightly into 'krytoses' territory.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Angelfish on March 30, 2010, 08:41:45 pm
It's great that he's picked up the pace, I sent him an email thanking him for his progress :D


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Novus on April 20, 2010, 06:22:20 pm
Page 70 (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider070.html) released. :)


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Angelfish on April 20, 2010, 09:55:12 pm
Page 70 (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider070.html) released. :)

fourteen dot gif!
the guy has added a new closer picture too, I see :).


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on April 21, 2010, 07:38:58 pm
Huh. It didn't pop up on the RSS feed.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Alvarin on May 04, 2010, 03:27:05 pm
#72 is up

You know, for race uncomfortable with physical touch, the Loroi appear to be seated quite intimately with the Earthling.
By the genre, there will definately be a "lights off" scene, but I think it's still too early in the comic, don't you think?


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on May 07, 2010, 03:51:25 pm
That struck me as well. If you look carefully, it's just Beryl who maneuvered in closer while talking; Jardin may have skoonched back a bit into Fireblade's space. Given the look on her face, this seems to be a bad idea.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Angelfish on May 07, 2010, 03:55:54 pm
not being able to read the entire comic at once made me surprised when he asked 'WHat's a solon?" :D


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: RTyp06 on May 07, 2010, 05:21:44 pm
Is it just me or do the expressions on the alien's faces not match the battle situation brewing in the last few pages?


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Alvarin on May 07, 2010, 05:40:08 pm
Well, they are not battle stations crew, as far as I understand, and their leader is highly distinguished. I think they are just overconfident. In addition, it is just the beginning of the story and main character is aboard, meaning the ship will survive no matter what. :)


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on May 07, 2010, 06:03:54 pm
That didn't hold for the Bellarmine, so I would say more that nearly the entire main cast is aboard, thereby suggesting survival.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on May 12, 2010, 04:20:21 pm
New page. A bit of pre-action planning. Metaphor alert.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Alvarin on May 17, 2010, 10:20:56 pm
74 is out.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: RTyp06 on May 22, 2010, 04:55:20 am
Now we're getting to some action. Finally! :)


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on June 01, 2010, 07:05:11 pm
75. If this is indicative of things to come, the production pace ought to increase (I mean that in both senses of 'ought')


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Alvarin on June 21, 2010, 09:44:41 am
and 76


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Angelfish on June 21, 2010, 10:12:21 am
and 76

imma firing ma lazorz ;)


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on June 21, 2010, 04:11:13 pm
Subtitle: in which something begins to happen, but doesn't finish.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Alvarin on July 05, 2010, 10:03:32 am
77. for subtitle look at previous statement.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on July 06, 2010, 05:36:53 pm
Well, something finished this time. You can't expect the whole battle to be done.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Draxas on July 06, 2010, 06:41:48 pm
Still waiting for missile impacts... It's a very slow paced battle, especially considering the update schedule. Still like it, though!


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Alvarin on November 01, 2010, 11:12:22 pm
#78 is up.
Is anyone surprized to see the weapons discharges colours?


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on November 02, 2010, 08:18:15 pm
What? I checked yesterday for the first time in months, and nothing was up... I must have missed it by hours.

Anyway... so far, so good. Let's see how long they can keep that up.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Alvarin on November 02, 2010, 08:37:18 pm
By "long" you mean time before pages?


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on November 03, 2010, 05:19:10 pm
Actually, I meant surviving the missile massacre.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Alvarin on November 03, 2010, 08:36:24 pm
Meh, pretty safe to say that at least the Tempest will suvive.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on November 03, 2010, 09:43:25 pm
There is a lot of room between flawless victory and 'OMG you just destroyed the plot'


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Dabir on November 03, 2010, 10:41:18 pm
I reckon the Tempest will be destroyed, then it turns out the Loroi were the bad guys and the rest of the comic is the other side's people.

It's what I'd do.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on March 01, 2011, 11:34:37 pm
2 pages up.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Novus on March 22, 2011, 09:37:24 am
Page 81 (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider081.html) up.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on May 17, 2011, 04:27:37 am
Arioch has been busy. We're up to #87!!


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Draxas on May 17, 2011, 07:07:47 pm
Interesting how he handled the Umiak dialog in the last 2 strips. It really makes it seem like this is a barely understood alien race that even computers have difficulty making sense of, and yet presumably the Loroi have been at war with them so long that they know exactly what they are talking about.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on May 17, 2011, 08:06:42 pm
That could be an artifact of the trade language itself. The Umiak deal with other races - the Orgos, at least. Not saying you're wrong, though.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on June 24, 2011, 04:00:53 pm
Page 89 is officially up, but it 404s instead of showing. So, soon, I guess?

Oh, and upon further thinking I realized that the trade language can't be at fault because characters were speaking in it earlier with no similar effects.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Angelfish on August 02, 2011, 08:31:17 am
page 90, 91 and the title page of chapter 2 are online..


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Alvarin on August 24, 2011, 01:46:03 pm
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider092.html



Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on November 12, 2011, 02:09:27 am
New update!


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on January 12, 2012, 04:48:30 pm
uppppdaaaaaaate!!!


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Alvarin on January 12, 2012, 09:42:16 pm
Heh, two month this time. Not that long...


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Son_of_Antares on January 13, 2012, 11:53:54 pm
If I only could refrain myself from visiting his site every one or two days eagerly waiting, passionately praying for a next update of the story...GODS this was a long wait -.-

I just hope that in the future he will finish whatever responsibilities he may have in RL and embrace this comic as his sole purpose in cosmos, awarding us, the fervent followers of his work, with an update every week   ;D

btw, nice update  ;D


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on January 14, 2012, 01:32:12 am
There is an RSS feed. It's generally only a day or two late. I don't compulsively visit - this time I caught it before the RSS due to a misclick.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on January 16, 2012, 03:38:49 pm
... and again! Whoa!


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on January 24, 2012, 12:09:15 am
uppppdaaaate! Seems to be weekly now?


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Angelfish on January 26, 2012, 11:48:28 pm
uppppdaaaate! Seems to be weekly now?

all that blah blah ain't time consuming to draw, I suppose :P


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on January 27, 2012, 04:35:36 am
This is the first mention of Alexander Jardin being a super-genius, that I remember. I wasn't expecting it. Was it previously mentioned, on page 2 or something?


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: RTyp06 on January 27, 2012, 05:57:49 am
Wow, this guy has been going at this comic since at least 2008. Fantastic artwork aside, this is the longest, most mind numbingly boring comic I have ever read. The characters are one dimensional and the story is dull. ... But of course I'll keep following along.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Alvarin on January 27, 2012, 06:21:17 am
Not the longest I read, http://www.goblinscomic.com/ goes back to 2005 (although the art back then was meh)


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Angelfish on January 27, 2012, 02:07:26 pm
Crimson dark goes back to 2006, and he's been updating it ever since until november 2011, that's when he got a job-life that isn't compatible with the comic anymore.
http://www.davidcsimon.com/crimsondark/


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on January 27, 2012, 04:50:49 pm
noobs. Sluggy Freelance started in august of 1997.

RType - the characters are still one-dimensional, yes. On the other hand, a lot has happened, and not a lot of room has been allowed for character development by the nature of their interactions. He didn't even really start talking to them until page 33, and pages 71-86 are a battle sequence.

So we're looking at 40 pages of about 2 or 3 lines per page, on average, and they've been following prescribed protocols - which makes sense, but isn't  a good vehicle for rendering multidimensional characters. Once we've seen them in different situations, they could round out.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Lukipela on February 01, 2012, 07:40:45 pm
Jesus, is Sluggy still going? I used to love that comic, but eventually got bored with the grander and grander story arcs.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on February 02, 2012, 03:36:53 am
Which was your last? Was it Oceans Unmoving?

The last few years were alternations of really seriously intense, and utterly silly... that feeds into the really seriously intense bits again. Only recently, after a recovery period, have we had anything in between.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Lukipela on February 04, 2012, 06:17:19 pm
Slightly after that I thinjk, after the whole Good World adventure where alternate Zoe died.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on February 06, 2012, 12:11:13 am
So you mean you JUST left. If you're disappointed that Zoe died, well, that was handled very satisfactorily by now.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Alvarin on April 04, 2012, 12:49:42 pm
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider097.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on April 04, 2012, 03:09:29 pm
So you mean you JUST left. If you're disappointed that Zoe died, well, that was handled very satisfactorily by now.

Oh duh. World of GOOD. Oh, that was a while back.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Lukipela on April 07, 2012, 09:50:14 pm
Very much so yes.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on August 01, 2012, 03:43:53 pm
... update? Update??

UPDATE! (http://www.well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider101.html)


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on April 30, 2015, 03:52:16 pm
uuuupdaaate??? (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider103.html)

Whooooa.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on May 04, 2015, 01:35:09 pm
Whoha. Need to read myself through your archive first. :)


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on May 04, 2015, 01:49:43 pm
I'm confused by 'your' there. I'm not that guy. I just post the updates here.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on May 04, 2015, 02:46:04 pm
Sorry. misinterpreted.
But that was a very well spent/wasted time reading the comic.
Dang, now I want more.

Thanks for pointing me there, Death.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on May 19, 2015, 09:28:20 am
Update! Again!
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider104.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on May 19, 2015, 07:27:19 pm
Hmm. I wonder why... maybe 'MY DAUGHTER WOULD STILL BE ALIVE IF WE HADN'T STUCK AROUND FOR YOUR POINTLESS BUSINESS'


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on May 20, 2015, 11:06:26 am
Could well be. But the way she formulated it, it's a common occurence.... This might be a more critical situation to get out of her sight...

But now I'm wondering how long it'll take for the next update. According to the WIP thread (http://www.well-of-souls.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7&start=50) in their forum, this page was already largely done and coloured in 2011, when Arioch posted the first images of this page. [edit] I misread the joining date as post creating date. I really should doublecheck such things before spreading rumours[/edit]
I wonder if the pencilling of the next pages has even been started...

Ah well, it's not like I spent money to be allowed to read. Patience is a good virtue for online comics readers.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on September 17, 2015, 11:12:44 pm
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider105.html

We are going on a trip. Fasten your seatbelt!


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on October 27, 2015, 10:26:42 pm
after 40 days, another!

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider106.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on October 27, 2015, 11:13:28 pm
Yep, Arioch's new job may be draining and leaving him without time to progress the comic, but he's also getting more practice again in drawing the necessary hand-drawn elements...


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: oldlaptop on November 09, 2015, 05:42:25 pm
Man, we're moving at a breakneck pace here. Wonder how long it can last...

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider107.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on November 10, 2015, 11:45:10 am
Less than two weeks only.
(http://puu.sh/leYSk/91b0d89bd9.jpg)
And slowly the story picks up again.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on November 10, 2015, 05:03:24 pm
I have no idea at all why he's shy about pointing out that the Umiak could also make contact.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on November 11, 2015, 01:14:29 pm
Likely Alex is afraid that the simple thought of Humaniti trying to contact the Umiak too might cause the Loroi to reconsider seeing him as an ambassador.

I would mention it too, as it could be expected that the Loroi assume the Humaniti, if on a mission to seek information on whom to ally with preferably, would also try to collect information on both sides, likely by trying to contact the other side too. That would step up teh game for the Loroi to actually get there ASAP.


Note, the creator of Outsider now has a Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/AriochIV?ty=h) page too.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: oldlaptop on December 01, 2015, 04:19:27 am
Twice in a month!

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider108.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on December 01, 2015, 02:00:04 pm
heh, you beat me to it...

0 in August, 1 in September, 1 in October, 2 in November,....
Hello Leonardo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonacci_number)!


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on December 02, 2015, 09:28:33 am
Shocking. New day, new comic (again): http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider109.html
Fibonacci can be met this month.. :) (Unlikely though)


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on December 03, 2015, 06:15:52 pm
It'd have to fail in a couple months anyway... by May it would have been more than one update per day.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on December 04, 2015, 10:35:33 am
I know, but my current work related actions caused me to see this pattern when I saw the last three update dates of September, October and November...


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on December 31, 2015, 09:23:21 pm
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider110.html

Best wishes for the new yyear, everyone!


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on February 08, 2016, 10:04:41 am
Shameless double-post:

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider111.html  (up since a week already)


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on February 20, 2016, 12:09:11 am
Alexander just had a cameo appearance in Erfworld, book 3, page 135 (http://archives.erfworld.com/Book%203/135).

(referencing page 62 (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider062.html))


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on February 23, 2016, 04:58:03 pm
I wonder what caster type he is.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on March 07, 2016, 10:46:48 am
I don't think we'll ever know,..


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on April 05, 2016, 09:35:35 am
Page 112 is up: http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider112.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on April 05, 2016, 01:40:49 pm
This long wait for THAT? I guess it'll seem paced fine when you read it straight through.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on April 06, 2016, 09:17:02 am
Yeah, I was a bit disappointed too.
But this comic is created only on the sideline of a busy life...


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on May 01, 2017, 11:48:37 am
A bit more than a year has passed, and Lo!

page 113: http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider113.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on May 01, 2017, 04:19:11 pm
Okay, so two characters who seem relatively normal instead of… well, everyone else he's met. Not that those he's met SHOULD be normal, but he's seeing beyond those who have specific roles in respect to him.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on May 29, 2017, 01:16:42 pm
It's been a while. But...

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider114.html
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider115.html
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider116.html

... Look who doesn't let go...


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on May 29, 2017, 03:04:09 pm
is hat topical? It can't  be…


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on June 04, 2017, 10:10:52 pm
Weirdly emough, it was on topic. As this bit of info is:


http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider117.html Page 117 is up.
What ae Beryls motives?


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on June 05, 2017, 12:59:48 pm
I meant, it seemed oddly similar to the Macron/Trump handshake of last week (in inability-to-leave, not the reasons), but since the comic handshake started before that occurred, can't be a reference.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on June 05, 2017, 07:09:57 pm
I had more issues with the way Talon's arm is suddenly across her chest, as if Alex is standing next to her, and not opposite....


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on June 11, 2017, 09:16:49 pm
Well, the setting is done, thus only rendering and drawing the characters...
So, here we are, another (!!!!!) page:
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider118.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on July 03, 2017, 11:08:21 am
Adn here I am again:
page 119 (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider119.html)


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: GameMusic on August 14, 2017, 10:03:21 am
This is neat but should probably trade some quality for speed.

Absolutely glacial.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on August 15, 2017, 08:55:43 am
indeed, but the comic is for free, and the author has a real life too, in which he needs to earn his money.
Thus the comic has become a side project....


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on August 16, 2017, 11:10:13 pm
That's kind of orthogonal to HOW he spends his time.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on November 09, 2017, 09:48:35 am
It's been a while.
page 120 (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider120.html) is finally up.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on December 04, 2017, 12:33:15 pm
Two new pages.... Start of the end-of-year rally?

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider121.html
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider122.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on January 01, 2018, 10:31:17 am
Happy new year everyone!

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider123.html



Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on February 08, 2018, 04:06:54 pm
Pages 124 and 125 are since a few days online:
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider124.html
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider125.html

So, the Umiak are breaking through. We are seeing a large scale offensive going on.
A real coincidence, that a Lotai-blocking Human appears right at the time that the Umiak attack with ships which are invisible to the Loroi Lotai....

That may become a real issue for Alexander Jardin's safety.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on February 08, 2018, 11:57:33 pm
I wonder if it's that the Umiak made contact with other humans and are using them.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on February 09, 2018, 08:57:45 am
The discussions are going in similar directions on the forums.

Problem is, the Bellarmine mission and the sister ships are all in a too close situation time-wise to have been the source of the Umiak technology on this grand scale......


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on February 26, 2018, 11:48:36 pm
update notification!

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider126.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on April 03, 2018, 03:53:34 pm
update notification, totally forgot to bring it here...

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider127.html (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider127.html): Call to Arms...

And no, no April Fools'...
(it was published on 1 April 2018, see here (https://twitter.com/AriochIV/status/980506224637571077))


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on April 30, 2018, 12:30:19 pm
Next update "already":
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider129.html

page 128 (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider128.html) was last week, so that makes incredible three in April 2018.

Read you around November again.... ;)


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on May 05, 2018, 01:10:30 pm
update notification. Agin.
page 130 (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider130.html) is already up!


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on May 14, 2018, 03:49:38 pm
Guess what?
page 131 (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider131.html), where we learn how Loroi swear, is up.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on May 15, 2018, 03:37:43 am
I wonder if it's time to have an arc where we get to see the other side.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on May 15, 2018, 09:44:06 am
At least we have an update speed where we can finally expect to see some results in a foreseeable future.

Arioch also mentioned that the updates should be "more regular" (meaning more often) this year, as his work situation has stabilized a lot.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on May 22, 2018, 03:00:32 pm
And another update notification!
page 132 (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider132.html)


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on May 22, 2018, 05:42:59 pm
I just noticed the stark 2D / 3D contrast. I wonder whether it was always this blatant and it just never occurred to me.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on May 23, 2018, 10:09:40 pm
It was always there, just less blatant.
Also, shading has been completed, so it may be less obvious now.
(the 2D part was not shaded when published first)


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on May 24, 2018, 04:24:47 am
Ah. Yes, it's a bit less stark now.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on June 04, 2018, 04:43:09 pm
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider133.html

omg they're about to hold hands!


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on June 04, 2018, 07:33:27 pm
the discussions on the forums go much in that direction.
And of course a link to a previous "fanservice" special publication....

http://www.well-of-souls.com/outsider/images/display.htm?thekiss04.jpg
http://well-of-souls.com/gallery/images/display.htm?telepanty.jpg


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on June 10, 2018, 10:05:47 pm
Not yet Monday, bt new page is already up:

For science! (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider134.html) (page 134)

"pleasant science elf" and  "red-haired harpy".... Nice...


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on June 26, 2018, 01:35:14 pm
and another page: http://www.well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider135.html

Barsam Ex Machina


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on June 26, 2018, 05:00:48 pm
Eh, I wouldn't say that - they were known to be in the immediate area.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on June 27, 2018, 10:13:46 am
Barsam Ex Machina is simply the title given to the discussion thread in the Outsider forum.

BTW, this is the Barsam courier from Naam (http://www.well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider057.html), which as a courier ship is likely not well weaponized.
It may be able to take down a missile or two, but not much more.

They were known to have left Naam before Strikegroup 51, and therefore well within the capablities of having reached Azimol already, and being on their way back to the front already.

Also, the Barsam vessel is on the link to Azimol, not to Gora, where the shuttle Highland 7 is (map of Leido : http://www.well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider123.html).


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on July 02, 2018, 04:59:50 pm
Another new page (136): http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider136.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on July 11, 2018, 06:15:44 pm
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider137.html


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on September 05, 2018, 12:06:18 pm

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider138.html
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider139.html

According to frontpage posted on 9 September (next Sunday).


Quite a bit of flying, but otherwise not much happening.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on September 05, 2018, 10:49:45 pm
Why would they have been expected to try to dock under such circumstances?


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on September 06, 2018, 08:50:07 am
They announced to come in "hot", and will not sway from their path... http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider135.html

Still, an interesting maneuver.
I wonder if the shuttle will cut power and pretend to be "debris", in a hope to avoid attracting attention from the Umiak.

Still, not a very fair maneuver to the station.... Shielding the missiles from defensive fire....


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on September 17, 2018, 09:26:39 am
page 140 (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider140.html) is out.

Shuttle is out. Station seems to be gone.
From here, the story can go multiple ways.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on October 02, 2018, 09:14:24 am
Headaches?
Page 141 (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider141.html) is out.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on December 31, 2018, 10:57:36 pm
Update notification!
Today, pages 144 and 145 went up.
Due to the UQM / stack.nl downtime,...


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on February 11, 2019, 09:10:36 am
Yay, two new pages.
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider146.html
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider147.html

Finally something to eat.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on March 20, 2019, 03:48:44 pm
This chapter runs since page 92, which has been published on 1st of August 2011 (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/update_history.html). You'll be looking at something like 1 chapter per decade...
Currently, the whole story forecasts 7-8 chapters (and we're still in chapter 2).
(Chapter 1 started 30 May 2002)
There has been some fun on the outsider forum projecting when the comic might end.
I might need to free some budget to support the creators patreon, to help get the story moving.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on April 02, 2019, 07:03:56 am
Update notification:
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider148.html

There are two more finished pages, for his patreons already.
For once, Francis decided to not update en bloc, but either weekly, or every two weeks. His forumites hope that'll allow him to finish another page before the stack is out,...


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on April 09, 2019, 08:30:18 am
And the next page is up.
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider149.html

Due to server issues, the forums of that comic are down. The creator is expecting a server rollback, and therefore the page might disappear again for a while, until he brings it up again.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on April 15, 2019, 09:55:22 am
Nice, page 150 (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider150.html) is now up too,
And one panel of the next page was shown in the WIP thread already.
No background to be rendered, so it goes fast.

Apparently the comic always stalled when a new setting appeared, as Mr. Francis makes the setup and then renders it from different angles.... And that always takes a lot of time, reducing his motivation...

Enjoying the current speed for as long as it'll last.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on April 23, 2019, 08:49:49 am
Believe it or not, yesterday page 151 (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider151.html) went up.
4th week in a row!

By content not much.
Yes, we Humans do have a nakedness taboo.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on April 24, 2019, 02:23:42 am
Yeah, there wasn't too much to that one.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on May 06, 2019, 09:38:13 am
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider152.html
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider153.html

So, Alexander got dressed, and got mail.
The bucket that went "Whirrrrr Clik!" is very similar to the crude container used by the Historian Personality Construct (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider065.html) during chapter 1.
Anyone's guess now from whom the message comes.


Edit: also, that's the sixth week in a row with an update!
The lack of background may be helping. Let's hope the scene stays a while, so we can enjoy the update speed.

8th page this year so far, last year (2018) had a total of 23 pages (including one on 1st of January, and two on 31st of December)


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on May 13, 2019, 10:57:44 am
Update Notification!

http://www.well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider154.html

So, first lesson when dealing with computer security: never open attachments from unknown, unsollicited, or unexpected sources!

But in this specific case?
I wonder if I would not start that smart chess program, that's been able to understand my language despite first contact, been able to analyze my hardware so that it can send me something, and that could bypass the "fly mode", and yet was not able to autostart itself....

Skynet activated!


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Death 999 on May 13, 2019, 04:56:18 pm
This pad came from the Bellarmine. Yet, he is addressed by the translation of his name that he gave to the Loroi. So SOMETHING funny is going on. Someone who heard that name and knows how to program on a human device. Historian, perhaps?

Or perhaps it was loaded with the data and then the program put the tablet into quiet mode. In that case whoever sent it already has control over the tablet, so nothing's lost by running the program.


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on May 14, 2019, 08:58:43 am
Pretty sure it is Historian origin.

The Historian Emissary was present on the bridge when Alexander gave his name's translation, page 62 (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider062.html).

And, the datapad did not have a "message received" blinking indicator before the trash bin (nickname from the Outisder-forums) made its noises. (Alex looks at the pad on page 152 (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider152.html), and comments on the new indicator a page later (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider153.html).)

BTW, we now have 22 July [edit]2160[/edit] in-comic, which is 8 days later then when the Bellarmine entered the Naam system (http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider002.html).


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on May 20, 2019, 09:04:26 am
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider155.html

Wow, that is an impressive feat by the Pocket HistorianTM and its supportive systems.



Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on July 04, 2019, 03:45:01 pm
Update notification!
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider159.html

Well, the line of weekly had been broken, and this one lacks shading for now.

Anyway, looks like someone realizes he'll be sharing the accomodation...


Title: Re: Outsider, SC inspired web comic...
Post by: Krulle on August 07, 2019, 09:03:03 am
update notification:
160 - Slumber Party! (https://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider160.html)

(Also: page 159 (https://well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider159.html) is now fully shaded)