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Title: Is this a bad thing? (personal)
Post by: jaychant on May 29, 2009, 01:47:24 am
There's something about me that I'm just not sure about, and I would like some opinions.

When I'm offered something that I didn't plan on getting, I tend to be very unwilling to accept it. For some reason, it just makes me feel greedy. For example, last weekend, I noticed how upset my dad was because of our messy house (he was cleaning at the time), and so I thought I'd help him clean a bit. Just now, he offered to pay me a few dollars for it, but it just didn't seem right. I don't know.

Could this potentially be a problem for me in the future? If so, how?


Title: Re: Is this a bad thing? (personal)
Post by: UAF on May 29, 2009, 12:08:57 pm
I think asking an online forum with an assortment of random people is not the right approach to such matters.

Better have a talk with your dad. :)


Title: Re: Is this a bad thing? (personal)
Post by: Death 999 on May 29, 2009, 08:39:16 pm
I feel kind of the same way. You don't want to mix transactional things into your family life, right?

Think of it as a gift. Resisting it isn't worth the trouble.


Title: Re: Is this a bad thing? (personal)
Post by: jaychant on May 29, 2009, 09:19:59 pm
I feel kind of the same way. You don't want to mix transactional things into your family life, right?

Think of it as a gift. Resisting it isn't worth the trouble.

Fair enough. :)

I just wasn't sure if I should fight my "generosity" (as I call it, though this is incorrect) or let it be.

Personally, I think it's a way to fight greed, because I am quite greedy. For example, for my team, Dark Fairy Games, I promise a split of profits between each member of the team. Well, originally I left 50% for myself. The setup is much more fair now, with about 20% to each group, though I still get 20% (whereas for example coders will only end up with 5% since there are four coders).

Now let's freestyle!

Nah, I can't throw the song "Rap Game" by D12 out of my head. So I just can't...

Maybe tomorrow!


I would like to now
But I just can't now
It escapes me now
but maybe tomor-ow!
I'll try it again,
and hopefully then,
I won't forget
No, I won't let
this escape me again
It won't evade me again
I won't forget it again
I will remember it tomorrow
I assure you, I'll follow
this promise I give to you
will not be broken
Tomorrow is the day
that is my token.


I admit, that took me minutes to write, so not exactly freestyle...


Title: Re: Is this a bad thing? (personal)
Post by: Lukipela on May 29, 2009, 11:47:03 pm
I think asking an online forum with an assortment of random people is not the right approach to such matters.

I was going to write a sarcastic reply along the lines of "Asking random anonymous people on the internet is always the right idea!". But then I remembered that jay doesn't pick up well on these things so I'll just say I agree with you.


Title: Re: Is this a bad thing? (personal)
Post by: SweetSassyMolassy on May 30, 2009, 12:20:58 am
I feel kind of the same way. You don't want to mix transactional things into your family life, right?

Think of it as a gift. Resisting it isn't worth the trouble.

Fair enough. :)

I just wasn't sure if I should fight my "generosity" (as I call it, though this is incorrect) or let it be.

Personally, I think it's a way to fight greed, because I am quite greedy. For example, for my team, Dark Fairy Games, I promise a split of profits between each member of the team. Well, originally I left 50% for myself. The setup is much more fair now, with about 20% to each group, though I still get 20% (whereas for example coders will only end up with 5% since there are four coders).

Now let's freestyle!

Nah, I can't throw the song "Rap Game" by D12 out of my head. So I just can't...

Maybe tomorrow!


I would like to now
But I just can't now
It escapes me now
but maybe tomor-ow!
I'll try it again,
and hopefully then,
I won't forget
No, I won't let
this escape me again
It won't evade me again
I won't forget it again
I will remember it tomorrow
I assure you, I'll follow
this promise I give to you
will not be broken
Tomorrow is the day
that is my token.


I admit, that took me minutes to write, so not exactly freestyle...

If you have the time or will power, I suggest reading a book called Atlas Shrugged


Title: Re: Is this a bad thing? (personal)
Post by: lakota.james on May 31, 2009, 05:15:11 am
I think asking an online forum with an assortment of random people is not the right approach to such matters.

Uh oh.  I do that with all of my personal matters.  Seems safer to talk to people who don't know me.  Though I usually don't do it on forums.  Usually irc, or /r9k/.  Think I might have started to talk to the #uqm-arena channel once, but I don't remember.  I talk to "Cattrance" from this forum over msn and email quite a bit about stuff I'm sure she'd rather not hear about. 


Title: Re: Is this a bad thing? (personal)
Post by: Zeep-Eeep on June 23, 2009, 12:08:56 am
Atlas shrugged is a good book, though it starts off very very slowly.

For what it's worth, I think that being generous is all fine and good. However, it's best to keep in mind that some people will be offended if you don't take their gifts/payment. Especially if what they're giving you is important to them (money, art, whatever).

Most times unless it's something you really wouldn't want under any circumstances, I'd recommend taking it. If you feel you're taking advantage of the person, find some way to pay them back later.


Title: Re: Is this a bad thing? (personal)
Post by: Death 999 on June 23, 2009, 08:37:20 pm
Atlas Shrugged is an all right book until you realize that it's terribly contrived.


Title: Re: Is this a bad thing? (personal)
Post by: SweetSassyMolassy on June 24, 2009, 04:12:29 am
Extremely contrived, especially the first half. However, the point in writing it was to make sort of a half novel/half philosophy textbook. The reason it's so forced is because the book was just a platform for explaining her philosophy.  She drives her views of ethics and morality until it hurts to read it. But even to those who disagree entirely in the end, it's an extremely powerful book with a whole lot of truth in it.

You could just as easily read her series of essays "The Virtue of Selfishness", and it will almost fully explain what she's trying to get across.

Also,
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Title: Re: Is this a bad thing? (personal)
Post by: Death 999 on June 25, 2009, 06:34:34 pm
And yet, Reardan made something of comparable utility if not as much, and look where he ended up.


Title: Re: Is this a bad thing? (personal)
Post by: SweetSassyMolassy on June 25, 2009, 07:04:29 pm
What do you mean?
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Title: Re: Is this a bad thing? (personal)
Post by: Death 999 on June 26, 2009, 08:40:08 pm
Oh, well, I didn't get that far. Last I saw him he was about to jump off a bridge or something. I guess he changed his mind?