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Title: A bit of Star Control history (MOD contest)
Post by: meep-eep on March 13, 2010, 04:27:24 pm
I just found the original SC2 MOD contest announcement.
It was posted here (http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.misc/browse_thread/thread/d3696f6c96b21d9d/) and here (http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.misc/browse_thread/thread/b521132ec20301ba/), and again here (http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc/browse_thread/thread/b7ff4e942ac8722e/).

Also, an SC2-related question about the temperature of planets here (http://groups.google.com/group/sci.astro/browse_thread/thread/ff967e10a2374550/).


Title: Re: A bit of Star Control history (MOD contest)
Post by: Lukipela on March 13, 2010, 04:39:56 pm
Cool find! I love the guy who comes in and goes "That's all very well but when is this going to be released on the Amiga"


Title: Re: A bit of Star Control history (MOD contest)
Post by: Angelfish on March 13, 2010, 05:14:46 pm
$50, that's not much :D


Title: Re: A bit of Star Control history (MOD contest)
Post by: meep-eep on March 13, 2010, 06:20:14 pm
$50, that's not much :D
That's $50 plus a copy of Star Control II. :P
(And the dollar was worth a lot more pre George W. Bush  :-\)


Title: Re: A bit of Star Control history (MOD contest)
Post by: Novus on March 15, 2010, 10:44:38 am
I just found the original SC2 MOD contest announcement.
It was posted here (http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.misc/browse_thread/thread/d3696f6c96b21d9d/) and here (http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.misc/browse_thread/thread/b521132ec20301ba/), and again here (http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc/browse_thread/thread/b7ff4e942ac8722e/).
It would be cool to track down the tunes mentioned in the announcement. This is a bit tricky, since we only have PC-style filenames to go on, and these are likely to be changed from the original if the file originates on the Amiga; probably by abbreviating the title. However, we can make a few assumptions, based on what TFB want and that they haven't contacted the composers directly:
  • The files are Soundtracker (or closely related) MODs
  • The files are 70000 bytes or less (uncompressed)
  • The files do not contain contact information for the composers
  • The files were easily accessible on the net in March 1992

I have a few guesses (in decreasing order of confidence based on whether other tunes also show up that could be the right one) that match the first three criteria and seem to be made in the late 80s or early 90s based on the samples used:
  • bacardi (http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=34858): bacardi.mod on The Mod Archive; one hit, exact
  • necron (http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=49817): necron.mod on The Mod Archive; one exact hit and a few similarly named
  • demons revenge (1) (http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=37449): demon.mod on The Mod Archive; one exact hit and many similarly named
  • paris-dakar (http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=80891): paris-dakar.mod on The Mod Archive, par.mod on Elektron BBS (http://freenet-homepage.de/elektron-bbs/filelist/MULFILES.ASC); one exact hit and lots of similarly named
  • no more trials (http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=64252): trials.mod on The Mod Archive; only one hit on "trials" here
  • little upfront-tune (http://amp.dascene.net/downmod.php?index=96559): MOD.little upfront-tune on Amiga Music Preservation; three hits on AMP for "upfront" (the other two contain mailing addresses for the composer)
  • push (http://amp.dascene.net/downmod.php?index=91562): STK.push on Amiga Music Preservation; one exact hit and lots of similarly named tunes


Title: Re: A bit of Star Control history (MOD contest)
Post by: Elestan on January 08, 2013, 03:57:47 pm
Quote from: Paul Reiche
The authors whose MODS we use will receive $50 US, credit within the product, plus a copy of the game when it is published. The best MOD we get will be worth $500!

So I'm curious...does anyone know which MOD won the $500?


Title: Re: A bit of Star Control history (MOD contest)
Post by: meep-eep on January 08, 2013, 10:39:56 pm
It was HyperSpace, by Riku Nuottajärvi.
He also got a certificate. We posted a scan of it at some point, but I can't find it right now.


Title: Re: A bit of Star Control history (MOD contest)
Post by: meep-eep on January 08, 2013, 11:19:39 pm
I think the original posting was lost in the SourceForge fiasco of 2002, but here is the picture:
(http://uqm.stack.nl/files/other/contest/letter.jpg)


Title: Re: A bit of Star Control history (MOD contest)
Post by: Steve-O on January 09, 2013, 03:33:00 am
It was HyperSpace, by Riku Nuottajärvi.

Why am I not surprised that it was one of the Precursors? =P


Title: Re: A bit of Star Control history (MOD contest)
Post by: psydev on January 20, 2013, 01:37:30 pm
Trivia:
The tune for the melnorme (originally called potatojuice.mod, I believe) was by a guy who invented his own genre of music called 'Poot', of which the melnorme tune was an example.


Title: Re: A bit of Star Control history (MOD contest)
Post by: meep-eep on January 20, 2013, 06:36:54 pm
There's actually a version of Potato Juice with lyrics.


Title: Re: A bit of Star Control history (MOD contest)
Post by: Novus on January 27, 2013, 09:42:24 pm
There's actually a version of Potato Juice with lyrics.
Video evidence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zIguKKXCT8Y#t=681s) for the above claim.


Title: Re: A bit of Star Control history (MOD contest)
Post by: meep-eep on January 27, 2013, 11:55:25 pm
There's actually a version of Potato Juice with lyrics.
Video evidence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zIguKKXCT8Y#t=681s) for the above claim.
Nice find.

I've found a copy of the track here (http://mp3.mp3s.ru/view/track/Robots%20Are%20Supreme/Potatojuice/).


Title: Re: A bit of Star Control history (MOD contest)
Post by: Death 999 on February 04, 2013, 04:15:07 pm
There's actually a version of Potato Juice with lyrics.
Video evidence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zIguKKXCT8Y#t=681s) for the above claim.

Starting at 11:30.


Title: Re: A bit of Star Control history (MOD contest)
Post by: Novus on February 13, 2013, 04:04:02 pm
There's actually a version of Potato Juice with lyrics.
Video evidence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zIguKKXCT8Y#t=681s) for the above claim.

Starting at 11:30.
More like 11:21, the position I linked to. Judging by the MP3, the additional 10-second intro is part of this version of the song, even though the version in the game lacks it.


Title: Re: A bit of Star Control history (MOD contest)
Post by: Death 999 on February 14, 2013, 03:57:13 pm
When I followed the link, it didn't skip to that timestamp.