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Title: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: JHGuitarFreak on April 15, 2010, 02:25:21 pm
I have just put up 2 remixes on my sourceforge page for the Vux and the Arilou.

It started as just wanting to get a better sound out of the .mod files using better quality samples
and it turned into converting them to midi by hand and re-recording them using soundfonts.
Ran them through Audition as well just to get a more clean cut sound out of 'em.

So these are at the heart of it the original .mod music with better quality sound and samples.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/uqm-mods/files/

Vux may be a bit brickwalled (A.K.A. Loud as @#$%) but I'll fix that later.

Don't really know if I'll continue to do the rest, some of them seem just a bit difficult when it comes to resampling simply because the unique samples used, I do have the Ilwrath comm music almost ready to go though.


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: Novus on April 15, 2010, 07:19:33 pm
Pretty good job. The choir sample on the Vux suffered a bit since you've converted what sounds like a major chord to a single note. Otherwise both tunes came out pretty nice for a instrument swap and remastering job.


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: JHGuitarFreak on April 16, 2010, 02:37:09 am
Pretty good job. The choir sample on the Vux suffered a bit since you've converted what sounds like a major chord to a single note. Otherwise both tunes came out pretty nice for a instrument swap and remastering job.

AH, remaster was the word I was looking for ;D

Thanks for the input, I'm gonna take a closer "look" at the original sound and see if I can do a better match.


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: JHGuitarFreak on April 20, 2010, 11:06:33 pm
Pretty good job. The choir sample on the Vux suffered a bit since you've converted what sounds like a major chord to a single note. Otherwise both tunes came out pretty nice for a instrument swap and remastering job.

I threw up a Vux Mk. II up on sourceforge for you to check out.
De-brickwalled it and added chords instead of octaves.


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: Novus on April 21, 2010, 06:37:52 pm
Pretty good job. The choir sample on the Vux suffered a bit since you've converted what sounds like a major chord to a single note. Otherwise both tunes came out pretty nice for a instrument swap and remastering job.

I threw up a Vux Mk. II up on sourceforge for you to check out.
Where? I can only find the old version.


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: JHGuitarFreak on April 22, 2010, 03:47:15 am
Hmm. Having a bit of trouble with my uploads not showing up.

Here, a mediafire link: http://www.mediafire.com/?m2dgmdjodmj


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: Novus on April 23, 2010, 10:03:25 am
Here, a mediafire link: http://www.mediafire.com/?m2dgmdjodmj
OK, this link works.

De-brickwalled it and added chords instead of octaves.
... Which was pretty much exactly what was needed. It's groovy now. :D


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: JHGuitarFreak on April 23, 2010, 11:01:08 am
Well the sourceforge downloads work now, I replaced the vux mix I had up there with mk. II and also added the ilwrath.

Thanks for the support duder  ;D

EDIT::.

To make it a little easier:
Vux (https://sourceforge.net/projects/uqm-mods/files/Misc/vux.ogg/download)
Ilwrath (https://sourceforge.net/projects/uqm-mods/files/Misc/ilwrath.ogg/download)
Ariloulaleelay (https://sourceforge.net/projects/uqm-mods/files/Misc/arilou.ogg/download)


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: Draxas on April 24, 2010, 09:10:28 pm
I really like the VUX one, though the "chorus" sounds a little strange when they abruptly cut off a long sustained note. Other than that, it's quite good.

The Ilwrath definitely sounds more like a genuine remix than a remaster. In particular, it seems to have completely lost the strange-sounding secondary part (which is an instrument I am hard pressed to describe the sound of; metally, perhaps?), which was basically the only interesting part of the song. It's a little too dull currently.

The Arilou one is a perfect remaster and I've got nothing bad to say about it.

Are you planning on giving this treatment to the rest of the songs? If so, any plans to set them up in a big music pack for use with UQM (I know you could just put them all in separately, but for convenience's sake)?


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: JHGuitarFreak on April 24, 2010, 11:58:38 pm
Are you planning on giving this treatment to the rest of the songs? If so, any plans to set them up in a big music pack for use with UQM (I know you could just put them all in separately, but for convenience's sake)?

No, not really. If I can find a way to do some of the other songs faithfully then I might but a lot of those songs depend on instruments that just don't exist.
Maybe if I could find lossless samples in high quality I could implement them into my soundbank. :-\
I was thinking of doing the Syreen next


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: superbutcherx on April 25, 2010, 12:56:34 pm
Hey, wow! This is great!

The Ilwrath one has great sounds, especially the bass, which has that "in your face"-attitude in it. The song would benefit from a little variation here and there though, it is a bit monotonous right now as Draxas pointed out.

Again, the Vux piece has the best bassline I've heard of the Vux variants there are and the drums have just the right kind of energy in them. I do prefer the Precursor version's choir section though, perhaps because it sounds more "seamless".

The one I really loved was the Arilou remix/master. Especially because I haven't been able to find other Arilou remixes that would actually be based on the original and not completely different songs (referring to Precursors 'mix).

Check your PM for more!


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: Lukipela on April 25, 2010, 04:35:36 pm
Once you're happy with these, let me know. I'd love to stick a few on the PNF


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: Volusianus on May 12, 2010, 11:14:57 pm
Wow, if you could give this same treatment to the Yehat theme, that would be REALLY awesome. That's one of my favorite themes from SC2, and I kinda really absolutely abhor the Precursors' version of it. IMO, it should be the main theme of SC2 in general (which may be why I'm kinda using it for the main theme of a SC2 animation I'm working on atm :P)


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: JHGuitarFreak on May 14, 2010, 01:03:06 am
Wow, if you could give this same treatment to the Yehat theme, that would be REALLY awesome. That's one of my favorite themes from SC2, and I kinda really absolutely abhor the Precursors' version of it. IMO, it should be the main theme of SC2 in general (which may be why I'm kinda using it for the main theme of a SC2 animation I'm working on atm :P)

I could try but there are many samples I can't recreate through the use of soundfont.
I'm also not very savvy with audio editing to duplicate most.

If I do get an end result that I'm satisfied with I'll put it up.

UPDATE:

Here are the first 24 bars just using the soundfonts.
No real effects are used quite yet and the volumes of the instruments aren't optimized properly but this should give you and idea of the direction I'm taking.

http://www.mediafire.com/?y2ztmxtomjj

UPDATE 2:

Take this for a test drive and tell me if there is anything I could do with it.
At this point I'm pretty much satisfied but I need another set of ears.

http://www.mediafire.com/?mgzj3gjqjmo

I took the liberty of adding a few things that kinda bugged me, most of you guys won't even notice though.

Oh yeah word of warning, the remaster I did is about half a semitone off from the original so it won't match up exactly when it comes to tuning.


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: Alvarin on May 14, 2010, 01:52:08 am
I like most of it, but the dominant instrument from 2:04 to 2:17 really annoys my ears...


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: JHGuitarFreak on May 14, 2010, 02:51:35 am
I like most of it, but the dominant instrument from 2:04 to 2:17 really annoys my ears...

Tell me if this alleviates the pain:

http://www.mediafire.com/?4nciww1ytzf


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: Alvarin on May 14, 2010, 03:45:07 am
It is not "pain" it just doesn't fit inside my personal preferances in music.
In the second version I failed to notice differenes, my ears aren't subtle instruments.
In addition - I don't want you to change something on my word only, maybe you should wait for more responses?


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: JHGuitarFreak on May 14, 2010, 07:49:01 am
It is not "pain" it just doesn't fit inside my personal preferances in music.
In the second version I failed to notice differenes, my ears aren't subtle instruments.
In addition - I don't want you to change something on my word only, maybe you should wait for more responses?

After you said something it made me notice that the orchestra hits and the lead guitar were a tad louder than the rest.
Especially during the areas mentioned.

Fun Fact:
This is the first of the Riku Nuottajärvi composed songs I did and from what I can tell most of his samples aren't in line with the notation in the .mod, meaning what could be a C is really an A sharp. Kinda bugs me but I can get around that.


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: Volusianus on May 14, 2010, 12:19:13 pm
I really like what you've done with this, but I won't give my full opinion until you're mostly satisfied with it. Keep up the good work, dude ^.^


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: Mormont on May 16, 2010, 07:49:12 pm
Your Yehat remix is pretty good, but I don't like the sound used from 1:32-1:47. The tone just seems too harsh and distorted. Same with 2:02-2:16 to a lesser extent. Also, I think the sounds in the outro should be sustained longer.


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: JHGuitarFreak on May 24, 2010, 11:44:51 pm
Well the project I have in mind, if I even make it a project, is to basically be the most faithful recreation of the original.
Just take what is there and update it. No additional pieces nor any removals of certain parts.

The 3DO release tried to do this with the incidental/ambient music but didn't even touch the comm music, kinda disappointing since they did a decent job.

So maybe I should change the title to "remasters"?


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: JHGuitarFreak on November 19, 2010, 03:20:30 pm
NECRO-POST!

Anyways I have made a semi-tolerable remaster of the Ur-Quan comm music; http://www.mediafire.com/?naz99fd7khlycu1

Check it out.


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: Alvarin on November 19, 2010, 03:54:57 pm
The link is incorrect. it redirects to http://www."http.com//www.mediafire.com/?naz99fd7khlycu1%22


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: Dragon on November 19, 2010, 05:21:35 pm
Indeed, the correct link should be http://www.mediafire.com/?naz99fd7khlycu1 (http://www.mediafire.com/?naz99fd7khlycu1)
Unfortunately I don't have speakers so...  :-\


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: onpon4 on November 19, 2010, 09:00:22 pm
I honestly don't particularly like it. It really doesn't seem to capture the essence of the Ur-Quan at all. I can't explain it; maybe it's just the instrument choice or something.


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: JHGuitarFreak on January 05, 2011, 06:49:23 am
Well I said in my original remaster that I would fix the Vux and so here it is, just a tad late.

DOWNLOAD HERE (http://aarnet.dl.sourceforge.net/project/uqm-mods/Misc/vux.ogg)

Also added a bit of attitude to it, so I guess I can call it a remix now.


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: JHGuitarFreak on June 21, 2012, 07:55:17 pm
Has it been this long?

How bout a Kohr-Ah remaster using stringed instruments?

DOWNLOAD! (http://sourceforge.net/projects/uqm-mods/files/Misc/kohrah.ogg/download)


Title: Re: My attempt at "remixes"
Post by: Defender on June 21, 2012, 10:28:47 pm
Very ominous.