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Title: what do you think of new sci fi films?? Post by: Mr Danger Dave The first on February 09, 2003, 12:36:32 am Hey guys,
How is it going? Sorry I've not been on these forms in ages. Have you noticed or is it just me but I haven't really seen a good new sci fi movie in ages.. In fact anything really good sci fi wise.. too be honest it think a star control movie would be ace, I think the last half descent sci fi film I seen was event horizon, and the last half descent sci fi series I say was B5 crusade, and Space above and beyond... Imagine if they made a 'Star Control' series! Personally I think it would be good provided id doesn't end up like voyager or enterprise... or even worse Andromeda... I think if they got the writers from space above and beyond to do it, it would be ace.. Okay finally what did you guys think of the star trek nemesis film?? I thought it was horrid :o thanks for reading Title: Re: what do you think of new sci fi films?? Post by: Scott on February 10, 2003, 07:27:57 pm Nemesis was... okay, at best. I enjoyed the two new Star Wars movies, but that's probably because I'm a total Star Wars nerd already (plus they're not TOTAL crap... you just need to learn to block out Jar Jar Binks in TPM and block out the really freakin' long Anakin and Padme scenes in AOTC..). But yeah, you're right, there hasn't really been a good new sci-fi flick in a while. The last really good one would be the Matrix, but I get the feeling you're thinking of of spaceship related sci-fi.
Title: Re: what do you think of new sci fi films?? Post by: Chad on February 11, 2003, 06:47:13 pm Firefly was the last really good sci-fi show that was on TV. I watch Enterprise, but it kind of bores me. It doesn't have much "style".
Sci-Fi Channel is doing "Tremors: The TV Series", but they didn't pick up Firefly after FOX cancelled it?! That is a crime IMHO >:( Apparently, intelligent sci-fi is not "in". Crap like Joe Millionaire is. *sigh* :P Title: Re: what do you think of new sci fi films?? Post by: Culture20 on February 11, 2003, 08:28:02 pm Firefly was great, but the Nielson families want their westerns to be westerns and their Sci-Fi to be Sci-Fi. Never the twain shall meet.
Title: Re: what do you think of new sci fi films?? Post by: Cyamarin on February 11, 2003, 09:59:13 pm Unless it's anime. Trigun is cool s&%t.
Title: Re: what do you think of new sci fi films?? Post by: Nic. on February 11, 2003, 10:32:02 pm Quote I enjoyed the two new Star Wars movies, but that's probably because I'm a total Star Wars nerd already (plus they're not TOTAL crap... you just need to learn to block out Jar Jar Binks in TPM and block out the really freakin' long Anakin and Padme scenes in AOTC..) <rant> Maybe I'm just getting old, but I posit that any movie that requires you to "block out" ANY scene for ANY reason in order to convince yourself that you enjoyed it is total crap. You paid your money to be entertained, and the onus is on the filmmakers to do the job -- the only "work" that should be required from you is the occasional suspension of disbelief; for instance, when you see a spaceship or an alien or other such doesn't-really-exist foible onscreen. Anything else -- such as ignoring plot holes, wooden acting, inane dialog or tacked-on scenes -- is a disservice to yourself, and to movies in general, because NONE OF THAT SHOULD EVER HAPPEN IN A MOVIE. Not only should you focus on the bad parts, you should complain loudly about them, since the only way for filmmakers to stop producing crap is for people to stop putting up with it. For the record: I used to be downright fanatical about Star Wars, but Episode I completely cured me. I didn't even waste my time seeing Episode II, but I did see the Yoda fight scene at a home theater demo; if that was the best scene in the movie, that movie must have sucked hard. Fortunately, Peter Jackson stepped up where George Lucas could not, and the Lord of the Rings series has (so far) revitalized my faith in moviemaking as entertainment. </rant> Title: Re: what do you think of new sci fi films?? Post by: Fsi-Dib on February 11, 2003, 11:01:06 pm Farscape! Farscape!! FARSCAPE!!!
Someone could say I like that show. It's currently coming from TV here. Title: Re: what do you think of new sci fi films?? Post by: Cyamarin on February 12, 2003, 01:42:36 am The fact is, not everybody is going to like every movie. If you think that any movie that has a part in it that you would have to overlook is total crap, you're depriving yourself of a great deal of enjoyment.
I loved the LOTR movies. There are some places where I think Peter Jackson handled the books poorly. But you know what? I blocked that out, and the movies were great. Title: Re: what do you think of new sci fi films?? Post by: Cyamarin on February 12, 2003, 01:45:19 am Besides, the other Star Wars movies had the same problems. Return of the Jedi was fine as long as you ignored the Ewoks. New Hope and Empire were fine as long as you ignored the plot inconsistencies that went between Episodes IV and V--when Lucas was still unsure whether he was going to make a trilogy or just one movie. And all three were great as long as you could ignore Luke's hairstyle. ^_^
Title: Re: what do you think of new sci fi films?? Post by: ErekLich on February 12, 2003, 03:09:12 am I tend to agree with Cyamarin. The way I look at it, any movie (or TV series for that matter) gets a number of "free plot holes" directly proportional to how good the rest of the movie/show is. Any movie/show that uses less than its standard number of plot holes is even cooler.
I mean, come on Nic! Apply your own standard to UQM! In my mind, the fact that blowing up the Sa-Matra won the war and stopped the Kohr-Ah is a gigantic plot hole! BUT! The rest of the game is so cool that I can easily overlook that and still enjoy the game. So if you actually applied your standard, you wouldn't be on these forums! [steps off soap box] For the record, Episode II did suck. Only part I found worth watching (and even then only when separate from the rest of the movie) is Obi-Wan trying to catch Jango. Title: Re: what do you think of new sci fi films?? Post by: Cyamarin on February 12, 2003, 07:04:26 am I didn't really think of Episode II as a movie. I thought of it more as a "string of really cool sequences that you always wanted to see held together by the thinnest of threads".
Title: Re: what do you think of new sci fi films?? Post by: Nic. on February 12, 2003, 09:40:55 am Quote I didn't really think of Episode II as a movie. I thought of it more as a "string of really cool sequences that you always wanted to see held together by the thinnest of threads". The proper term for that is F/X Porn (http://www.smallbytes.net/~bobkat/waterstone.html) :) Title: Re: what do you think of new sci fi films?? Post by: Cyamarin on February 12, 2003, 11:09:12 am Well, yeah. I mean, I watch porn too. I don't watch it when I'm looking for great cinema, I watch it when I feel like looking at people having sex. It's just in your expectations.
Title: Re: what do you think of new sci fi films?? Post by: Mr Danger Dave The first on March 25, 2003, 07:57:41 am Speaking of sci fi,,, well i dont know if it should be called sci fi, what did you guys think of the "Star Trek Nemisis" film, I thought it was pants... probably the only film if nearly fallen asleep.. the editing in it was poor, went to fast yet so slow aswell, was like someone cut all the interesting bits out!
Any way are any of u guys gonna see the new "red Dwarf" film when it comes out at the start of next year ::) also what do u think of enterprise?? i think it could be good if they got good writers and directors behind it >:( Title: Re: what do you think of new sci fi films?? Post by: zixyer on March 25, 2003, 08:12:06 am Quote In my mind, the fact that blowing up the Sa-Matra won the war and stopped the Kohr-Ah is a gigantic plot hole! BUT! The rest of the game is so cool that I can easily overlook that and still enjoy the game. That's not a plot hole ... The Chmmr told you that the Alliance was winning the war, and only after the Ur-Quan brought out the Sa-Matra were they defeated. So thus after you take care of that little problem, presumably the Chmmr could then go in with their newly kick-ass ships and decimate the remaining Ur-Quan forces. Plot hole that was not .. deus ex machina on the other hand .... Title: Re: what do you think of new sci fi films?? Post by: Death 999 on March 25, 2003, 07:22:48 pm IIRC, "The Alliance was losing..." is in the opening credits.
Title: Re: what do you think of new sci fi films?? Post by: Matticus on March 27, 2003, 09:30:59 pm "There were many great battles...
Earth and her partners in the Alliance of Free Stars... ...against the evil Ur-Quan and their Hierarchy of Battle Thralls. ...and the Ur-Quan were winning... Meanwhile, on the edge of the known frontier, and amazing discovery was being made..." So at the time that the precursor installation on Unzervalt was discovered, that's when the Ur-Quan were winning. This is consistent with conversations in the game. Fwiffo: About 20 years ago, this region of space was dominated by a loose confederation known as the Alliance of Free Stars, which was composed of the aliens native to these parts who didn't want to be enslaved. They made a valiant effort against the superior Ur-Quan forces and it even looked like they might miraculously defeat the combined Ur-Quan armada right up to the point at which the Ur-Quan totally defeated - indeed, annihilated them. The Chmmr: WE MUST FIRST TELL YOU THAT EVEN BEFORE WE WERE PLACED UNDER THE SLAVE SHIELD WE REALIZED THAT THE ONLY WAY TO DEFEAT THE UR-QUAN WAS FIRST TO DESTROY THEIR PRECURSOR BATTLE PLATFORM... THE SA-MATRA. THIS VESSEL WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VICTORY OF THE HIERARCHY OVER THE ALLIANCE. And lastly, Commander Hayes: With the sides set, the last Ur-Quan offensive began. The Ur-Quan came roaring through VUX space, and tried to push past the Indi and Mira star systems. Their onslaught was barely repulsed and our counter-attack made hardly a dent in Hierarchy forces but we held the line -- The Coreward front remained intact. This would be around 2124 Over the following ten years, there were many great battles between the combined Alliance starfleet and the Ur-Quan and their Hierarchy of Battle Thralls. Then, in 2134, a dramatic shift in the balance of power took place. This must have been just about the time the science research mission was sent to your planet at Vela. I would guess that the Alliance did very well for itself right up until 2134, when Corridor Nine sent their mission to Vela and all of a sudden "the Ur-Quan were winning." I assume this means the Ur-Quan brought the Sa-Matra to bear against the Alliance around 2134. Maybe 10 years was the longest it had taken them to subjugate a region of space. Coupled with the Alliance's relative success in repelling the invasion up to that point, maybe the Ur-Quan were getting worried. Title: Re: what do you think of new sci fi films?? Post by: Kohr-Ah_Primat on April 16, 2003, 11:57:03 am Well, I've seen the trailer on their website, and I am rather looking forward to Matrix Reloaded.
Making an SC movie would be tricky. There's not enough time to allow the details of the background to be all fleshed in to have the proper impact, before it'd be all over. Just properly setting up one race's history alone would take most of the movie. A series might have a better shot at it, but the problem would be balancing background story versus enough excitement from ep to ep. I foresee neither of these things ever coming to pass, though. It's just too limited a fan base. |