The Ur-Quan Masters Discussion Forum

Hey guys :) After quite a while i got the original SC2 again... its the one and only hehe.. Anyways, a few years ago some people who were playing on their own claimed that there is another way to finish the game, other than destroying the sa-matra.. they said that it is possible to meet androsyn somewhere in the hyperspace (or chenjesu, but its far more likely to be the androsyn) and somehow convince them to go after the ur-quan and thus finish the game. I know that it would be the best to ask those people directly, but i can't get in touch with them.  Did anyone of you have any similar events, or at least have heard of it? the only way described on the internet is the samatra one...

There are no more Androsynth now. Only Orz.
the chenjesu are merging with mmrnmhrm to chmmr, the reason there is not any 'secret' ending which u convince the androsynth\chenjesu to fight against the urquan is a simple fact; there are no mods\oggs\conversation pics of the chenjesu\androsynth

hm.. true is about orz... about the other stuff, i didn't check..
yet, i definitely have no reason not to believe what i've been told (nor to believe, either ;)). anyways, what i was told is that they positioned themselves in the ur-quan space, using the 'caster or 'casters, and that after a while they were contacted by the abovementioned...maybe just a rumor, but it would be interesting, wouldnt it?

and while we're at it.. the arilou in quasispace promise to let you onto their surface, all the time mentioning 'numbness' and stuff.. is it possible to 'reach' the state where they actually let you down?

I don't think so.  And if these guys say no, they mean it--they have access to all the source code, and all that.  The game doesn't contain any pictures of the Androsynth, or any music, or any conversation files, so it's pretty safe to assume you don't talk to them.  Same with the trip down to Falayarafali--there'd have to be a picture of it somewhere in the code, and there isn't.

Yeah. You're friends have either been trippin while playing, or they've played you a jolly prank :)

Or they're repeating rumors other people told them.  That happens a lot.

I heard so many rumors about secret Easter Eggs in the Final Fantasy games, I can't even count them.

yeah.. its probably so... or my memory has faded during time :) yet, not many people knew about the game then (or now) so its hardly a pass-on rumor... i'll seek the truth ;)

10x...

If it's not in the code, then it's not in the game, so I wouldn't waste my time looking for it.

-Will

Dude, i'm telling you, you CAN revive Aeris!  ;)

Now just in counter argument they have the 3DO code not the original it is possible that when 3DO relased theirs they left those "secret parts" out because they were low on funds or didnt care to do the voices or something like that. i'm just listing a posibility. now for the sake of the argument, the reason the new alliance lost the war is because of the sa-matra. that is when the allience was at full power. now just meating a few ships in the middle of nowhere would not be as powerfull as the allaince was in its full might.

PKUNK RULE!!!!!!!

They don't explain those things in the PC version, either.  It's not a case of UQM being different from the PC game, because for all I know, the content in the game is no different.  It's just that the layout is different and there are voices...  It's not in the code, so it's impossible.

'Nuff said...
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But hey, imagine if there was another ending! ... ...  ...  :P

What? You mean I'm the only one whose lead an alliance of Androsynth, Mrnhrm and Chenjesu against he combined Ur-Quan forces? You win by cleansing all Quan life from this part of the Galaxy. And after the Victory sequence, you get to explore on Earth with your lander! Did noone else do that? All you have to do is get the Androsynth recombinator from the Blue Slylandro at Vega... ;D

Which you can only access with the Trident of Wimbli

Oh, so you played through it that way too? Good work man!

hahaha

Always glad if I can make someone smile!  ;)

what about the ending where you have the umguh as a reward give you and your crew with the power of mental compulsion?
and when ever you meet a Kohr-Ah and tell it to summit or die it joins your fleet. you talk to the orz and compel them to tell you what realy happened to the androsynth. and you compel the druuge to give you all there fuel and after send then to die at the hands of the Kohr-Ah. also compel all the vux to have plastic surgery to look like humans. and to end the game you swich your cammand to the Sa-Matra. you guys never did that? ;D

Don't be silly, that's not in the gamecode, unlike our ending  ;)

if it wasnt in the code then how did i do it? ::)


The compeling the vux to have surgery is funny you have to admit that

It IS funny, It's just that I'm doing my best to be funny as well :)

I think you just dreamt about it... And then your subconcious mind made it real.

OR maybe mine was a special edition. 8)

I see, now I get it.. you mean the "SC2: The BioSlayer Master" edition!
I hear there's only a single copy in the whole universe!.. phew ;)

And guess who owns it?  ;D

Oh man, I TOLD you were you could find the Andy's!

And guys, you are all hillarious! Keep on the good postings - I love entertainment and a good laugh!

Well, we aim to please mate. It would be an assuming sidetrack for the developers after 1.0 though. :) The UQM 1.5 were you can cruise around with your cloaking device on, chatting with the Androsynth, repairing the Mother Ark, all with your trusty sidekick Rusty, the Pkunk of destruction in his souped up Fury, capapble of laying siege to entire starsystems.

And you will have to fight the threat of the Spathi out for revenge in their Black Spathi Squadron (Except for Fwiffo who is still on your side)

You guys know you're just looking for trouble.  lol.  Some newbie's gonna come in here and think that what you're saying is really true!

The best ending, though, is the one where the Hierarchy and the Alliance join hands and sing "kumbaya", and everyone lives happily ever after.

I would only count that ending as a good one if we can skip the "Kumbaya"... that song is a crime against humanity.

If I was looking for trouble I would've proposed Kumbaya!

I think the big finale scene is a huge choir of John-Lennon look-alike Androsynth all singing "Imagine" - that's more like it  :D

I would like the ending where the Androsynth are all floating around in Orzspace helplessly, and yet singing Monthy Pytons "Always look on the bright side of life!".

Especially the whistling would carry well through the depths of below.

That would be a very funny ending - although I'd have to admit that I dislike that song even more than Kumbaya!

How can you dilike that? it's classical and veery Androsynti! To go through what they have and still smile, well good for them I say! (Assuimg they smile that is)

I got the impression that they didn't do that a lot.

Well not at us certainly. They had little reason for that. but among themselves... Who knows what secret rituals they had. also, since they left, maybe they fiddled with the genepool on their own and added a few traits?

Did you ever wonder why did the Androsynth call themselves "Androsynth" ?

yes, I know what you're about to say - we humans gave them that name.. then how do the Orz know they're named Androsynth? or the Arilou?

hmm!

I doubt it has to do with the ship's translator, so don't give me that answer ;)

i think the ship translator thingy would be a reasonable idea. Afetr all we've designated them androsynth in all our files? So any reference to "humanoid bipedal creatures in Vulpecuae constellation" would be trnaslated to Androsynth.

Perhaps they kept it as a reminder? To make sure that they wouldnt forget theri plights. Maybe they took a name that had been given in scorn, and adopted it in pride.

Or maybe they have another name. Just not one they care to share with outsiders, and therefore use the Synths with alien species...

I always felt it was the translator, myself.  We give names to the races, they each get to keep their own names for themselves.

for the araluo its easy they were part of the alliance.

for the orz they could probibly have known that the androsynth are the only race in the area and when you ask what happend to the androsynth. they aplyed the name to the race that was there.

in a way you told the orz the name of the race.

example:
"what happened to 'pikes peak'?"
"aliens stole 'pikes peak.'

I think the Androsynth were so used to that name, that it wouldn't be right to change it.  I mean, it may be derogitory and perhaps offensively given by the humans, but that's the only name they've ever known.  It wouldn't surprise me that they just kept it for that reason alone, and that their culture is so new and developping, that it's not like they had much of an alternative.  I mean, they have the same language (supposedly) as us and their culture is more or less similar to ours, so there would be no basis or reasoning to change their race's name.  Plus, what's in a name?  A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

Ahh, Shakespeare!