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Hello fellow "Ur-Quan Master" fans.  

Here are some "Ur-Quan Master" ships recreated in Lego

(http://cuusoo.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/eb3ef/c9f4c/5ad77/1e7b4/4256f/bd56f/c602e/7ce24/thumb640x360.jpg)

(http://cuusoo.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/9c163/bf9c5/b2c18/17c88/c3173/80f48/be4a6/49920/thumb640x360.jpg)

(http://cuusoo.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/f229c/bc117/12ff7/6dee4/e8894/7bd9d/ffc16/468d7/thumb640x360.jpg)

(http://cuusoo.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/ba091/4abbd/31860/baec3/5c1f2/6c402/7b9eb/38e80/thumb640x360.jpg)


These are a series of Lego Star Control ships made by me (Glenbricker) and  Crashsanders.  

First off, we would love any feedback you have to give.  

Second, and here is the really really fun part.  We have posted these to a website called Lego Cuusoo.  Lego Cuusoo is a site where people submit ideas for Lego sets.  If 10,000 people support the idea, Lego will review the concept and might produce it.

Here is the Cuusoo Link: http://lego.cuusoo.com/ideas/view/11290 (http://lego.cuusoo.com/ideas/view/11290)

I KNOW there are 10,000 fans of Star Control / Ur Quan masters.  I know there are a lot of fans who want to PROVE that there is a fan base BIG enough to make new Star Control/ Ur-Quan Master games to come about.  Well, here is our chance.  In a very media friendly environment we can support this idea and show our love of this epic game.  

When you support, please leave a comment as commented projects get more attention.  

Please also help by tweeting the link and liking it on Facebook (links to both are on the Cuusoo project) and any any other social networking sites you might have.  Tell your old friends that you used to play Star Control with in high school two decades ago.  

There is also a reddit posting here: http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/117q05/cuusoo_project_is_an_homage_to_90s_classic_star/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/117q05/cuusoo_project_is_an_homage_to_90s_classic_star/) if you would like to vote it up.

If you are into pinterest then you can even repin the image here http://pinterest.com/glenbricker/lego/ (http://pinterest.com/glenbricker/lego/)

IF you don't like what you see PLEASE give us feedback.  This is a living project.  We will be adding more ships and minfigs and building the more inhuman species like the Illwrathi, Ur-Quan, and Spathi.  

So come back and check on it form time to time (or follow on twitter to hear about updates)

Even if you don't like Lego or care for this at all.  Even if Lego turns down the project, We can use this to showcase the immense appeal of Star Control.  Minecraft as gotten 10,000 supports in 2 days.  Portals in a few more.  Lets show them that Star Control still has its fans and show Fred Ford and Paul Reiche III how much we still love the game.

Cheers and Thank you so much for your support!


I am here to beg for your support for Star Control but...while you are at Cuusoo, we would really appreciate it if you could take a look at our other Cuusoo projects and see if they are also worthy of your support:

My projects can be found here: http://lego.cuusoo.com/profile/GlenBricker#projects (http://lego.cuusoo.com/profile/GlenBricker#projects)

Crashsander's projects are listed here: http://lego.cuusoo.com/profile/CrashSanders#projects (http://lego.cuusoo.com/profile/CrashSanders#projects)

Wow, these look wonderful! About the only criticism I have is that the Torch could probably use bigger color-sphere things, although I suppose it's not without precedent to make them look smaller:

(http://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/script/images/f/fb/VileRancour_thraddash_torch_databank.png)

Thanks for the feedback. 

What I tried several times to do was actually make the forward spheres smaller than the rear ones.  Lego has a limited number of options for spheres.  I tried very hard to preserve the forward red ones being smaller and closer  together than the rear ones but I decided I needed to walk away from the problem for a bit.  I am going to continue to work on it but building that small has limited options.  Then one day you just figure it out. 

These are fantastic. I registered and added my vote.

These look really neat. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what pieces you used to put that Torch together, since the entire top almost appears to be one specialized brick.

I especially like the X-Form, since it looks like the wings are hinged so it can actually transform (though that doesn't seem to be the case with the guns, sadly; maybe small turntables underneath the wings would work?).

I've never envisioned the Ilwrath Avenger having a hole in the back end like you've deisgned it, though. It always looked to me like there was some sort of module stuck in there, similar to the top of the Dreadnought.

These are some really small scale kits. Any plans to make bigger versions?

In this core picture of the Avenger or you can see through the ship in that area...either case...hole in the model

(http://i14.fastpic.ru/big/2011/0225/fd/48ee0541934fd3607585bb54ff2119fd.png)

Cuusoo is about suggesting single sets, not themes.  So we could get 1 large Star Control vessel or a collection of small ones.  I think most people would prefer to get several different small ones that one ship that they might not care for.

But, it does not look like anyone is going to get anything at this rate.  52 people have viewed the project and support has only increased by about 4.

It's weird, the people who come here have been playing this game for decades!  Why not take the 3 minutes it takes to support the project.  At least take the 30 seconds it takes to explain why you are not supporting here.

Well, cheers. 

In that case, you might want to check out Robert Seater's lego ships. They're smaller, more suitable for bundling in a multi-ship set.

There's not that many people who come here anymore, sadly. My personal suspicion is that much of the fanbase do not even know about the fanbase, if that makes sense to you.

This is really cool, and if I had any faith what-so-ever in Lego as anything other than a real-life incarnation of the Druuge's Crimson Corporation, I'd be much more excited about it.  This is too interesting and obscure to ever catch their eye, even if it did manage 10,000 supporters.

You might try telling the folks over at Penny Arcade about your project; they're fans of Star Control.

This is similar to something I've done with Lego already (your idea is more practical from a production standpoint; and involves quite a bit more creativity!)

http://www.facebook.com/blocksprites -- this is a link to what I do in general, but my two favorites are right here:

http://tinypic.com/r/21az86a/6

(http://tinypic.com/r/21az86a/6) -- they don't look like much big and up close like this, but from far away (say on a shelf or whatever) they look spectacular.  Over the last few years I've taken them to dozens of gaming / sci-fi / anime conventions that I sell 8 and 16-bit sculptures at, but so far, nobody has recognized or expressed any interest in these two :(

For myself, I'm planning on making an Ur-Quan Kzer-Za captain portrait; it'll be over a foot wide and a little under a foot tall.  I'm sure someday I'll get around to making nearly every ship for my own personal collection of sculptures.

I'm very interested in seeing any additional designs you come up with, though... I'd love to see an Androsynth or, you know, the Sa-Matra :)

HOLY SHIT IT'S NICHOLAI.

Wait, on-topic. Yeah, Star Control LEGO would be pretty damn cool. It's an awesome building medium generally, I know a guy who plans out starship graphics with it.

Great work on many levels.  Its sad nobody recognizes them...they look great to me.

Based on you obvious interest in Mega Man you might be interested in this other project (to look at and admire if not to support ) :  http://lego.cuusoo.com/ideas/view/16218 (http://lego.cuusoo.com/ideas/view/16218)

I have been mulling over the Androsynth for a while now.  I really want to get a variety of widths...I updated the picture to show the more recent additions.  I have a Jugger being rendered right now, so I should have that in a few hours.

Cool project.
Supported, now the count is up to 23  ::).

Hope this will eventually get at least a few thousand more supporters...

Thanks for the support! 

Just loaded up the Jugger and the Guardian

And now the Mycon podship

I can't say I had ever noticed that before.

That Spathi eye must be either painted or CGed on; I honestly don't even recognize if anything on the stalk or eye are actual bricks.

And as mentioned, sadly the communities both here and at the SCDB (since I see you crossposted there) are rather small and do not get a whole lot of regular activity. So you probably shouldn't expect to get earth-shattering numbers of people from either one, no matter how big their memberlists might seem.

Well Crash and I are basing our models more on the in game art.  I looking for more inspiration on some of the ships I looked at the manual's art of the Avenger and that certainly is NOT empty.  But the manual art has always diverged from the game are. 


The Spathi eye is the same part used on the Thradash Dart.  It is a shere with a stud hole in the back.  There is a third option you did not mention (though yes it is SG) and that is custom printed decals.  Printed waterslides is the common trend among hard core Lego minifig designers.  Part of the reason in getting Lego to produce this set though would be to prevent everyone else from having to resort to such techniques.  Also, the colors shown here are not available for all the parts used.  Vinyl dyes can be used but that is again a limiting factor for casual enthusiasts. 

I use CG to do mock ups of how figure will look with the skins I have made prior to moving forward with waterslides. 



It is not the limited number of people on the forums that I was commenting on but the low  follow through of views on this posting to support in Cuusoo that saddens me.  I wish people would at least leave feedback here on why they are not supporting then just reading it and then not responding in any way. 

Cheers

   

I like what you did. They're all very good.
My only criticism is that the Avenger looks a bit fragile. Or is there a pin in the 'neck'?
Are you going to make the flagship too? With exchangeable modules? That would be cool.

As for why I am not 'supporting' on Cuusoo: they want  me to create a Facebook, Twitter, or Cuusoo account. That's not going to happen.

Thanks a lot for the feedback Meep-eep. 

Any single stud connection is Lego is of course more delicate than a multi-stud one, but stronger than you would think.  This build uses a relatively new part which is a 1 x 1 round plate with the added "feature" of having a hole  throug it.  So each plate is holding on not only through surrounding the Lego stud but also having a short pin go into the stud.  So this is a  bit more firm than a traditional one stud build

When I am done with all the ships  and figure I figured I would find the flagship an irresistible draw.  Not sure I would make it part of the Cuusoo project but I would certainly post it.

As for not creating an account.  Thank you for giving me that input.  I don't know your explicit reasoning for not wanting to create a Cuusoo account but I can respect that.  I am not trying to change your mind but simply being informative, I have never received a contact from Cuusoo outside of the initial account creation confirmation or emails associated with the creation of new projects that I submit.   Cuusoo is very big about not contacting its uses.   Again thanks for the info.  It is always very informative to learn about why people are NOT supporting a project.

Cheers,

Glen   

What am I thinking? Most of these were really small. Only the Dreadnaught is largish.

I second this.  If LEGO makes them into a series, they could add different portions of the flagship into each set (to entice everyone to buy every mini-set).

These look nice, though I feel like some of them are kinda small, especially Thraddash and Ilwrath. The Ilwrath in particular feels too thin.

This is roughly my reasoning, with the caveat that Twitter is something that I may change my mind on at some point. That said, this is not sufficient to make me change my mind on getting a Twitter account.

Yeah I saw this when I was randomly googling one time, but I saw it like 5-6 years ago before this, so there might be copywright problems.