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Find Planet > Scan planet >Fly around over dots > Repeat.

Any RU cheats?

the old lander cheat doesnt work.   its enough to make me want to install DOS.

Thats half the fun ;D ok more like 1/8th the fun, but its always fun to find a planet that is just loaded :). also try those dangerous ones with lighting, fire, earthquaks and those green dots that move around!

BUT IF YOU ARE SO LAME AS TO CHEAT YOUR WAY THROUGH THE GAME

then you can download the save game editor for .1 it still works for .2 at PONAF, but while your at it you might as well print out the walk through and follow it exactly, and turn your cyborg to expert. Oh dont forget to get the maps that tell you where everything is.

see I beat the game TWICE before even trying the editor.
editor is at
http://www.fileplanet.com/dl.aspx?/classicgaming/starcontrol/urquanmasters/uqm_editor_v0.1.zip

you have to put the editor in the directory of the save games.
that directory is a hidden file for XP and is int the documumentsadnsetting/"user"/aplicationdata/uqm/savegame
thats if my memory is correct.

Ignore the almost fanatical love of resource collecting of the response and utterly freakish generalizations about you. This editor tool is really nice. Pump yourself up with LOTS of RUs. If you want to travel quicker, give yourself some turning jets and boosters (Easier bought ingame.), but this imbalances your main ship, so be fair and try not to use your flag ship for battle.

Of course, you'll still have to head to planets to get bio units. But, that's fair.

You know, you get resources for destroying enemy ships (although not enough to rely on it completely until late in the game). Actually, I find mining kinda fun anyway. You don't have to do it THAT much if you just hit the valuable planets (becoming familiar with the value of each color helps).

If you mine enough to buy a Spathi ship, you can hunt VUX or Slylandro for cash, but Spathi Fu is almost more boring than mining.

Sapthi Fu against VUX is just a slow way of committing mental suicide. You can keep at it til you've exhausted the conversation options, but that's really all. After that it's just horrible.

My typical response to this one is that if mining is getting boring to you you don't know the game that well enough.

Seek to improve upon your game and learn it.  There's ways to get lots of RU really quickly and it's not cheating...when I play anymore I finish with my ship all tricked out, a few escorts, and 70K RU to spare in the spring of 2157...

In fact, those things have been talked about...you might read back and you'll find out many of those ways to make RU...

To use a Star Trekism....think like a Ferrengi....profit profit profit.

The best way to get money legit is to get the egg casing and sell it to the druuge. make shure you fill all you modules slots with  advanced fuel tanks ;D

From the SC2 Resource PDF:

STAR SYSTEM DETAILS
The 20 Overall Richest Star Systems
Star System and Best Worlds and Best Worlds
                             Mineral Totals Biological Totals
Delta Aurigae 11005 (7,2a,1b) 256 (2,1b,1a)
Beta Carinae 7982 (2,9d,9b) 304 (4,3b,7a)
Beta Scorpii 12680 (5,7,3) 178 (8b,6,3)
Beta Circini 6897 (7,8,3) 248 (3a,1,2a)
Delta Sextantis 5901 (9,3,6) 322 (5a,1,2b)
Beta Tauri 5747 (5a,7,5b) 277 (1,5b,5a)
Alpha Olber 6940 (3,6b,1) 241 (3,7,6a)
Epsilon Draconis 7298 (1,9,2a) 230 (8a,2a,7)
Zeta Scorpii 4134 (9,9a,5) 309 (9a,8,3)
Gamma Tauri 7307 (1c,5b,4d) 219 (2b,1a,3b)
Gamma Geminorum 2388 (4a,4c,4b) 341 (3,1,4c)
Epsilon Scuti 8365 (5b,4,3a) 175 (5b,3b,5d)
Lambda Hyades 1949 (6,4,3) 329 (7,1,4a)
Beta Vulpeculae 6208 (5d,5a,3) 214 (2d,6,2a)
Gamma Circini 4903 (6,3,1) 247 (6,2,5)
Delta Chandrasekhar 4299 (4, 1 , 8 ) 259 (3,6,7d)
Aldebaran 6488 (5c,2,4) 201(2a,2,5a)
Kappa Hyades 4736 (6,1,2) 186 (2,9a)
Fomalhaut 4158 (1,5a,2) 191 (5a,5b,4)
Alpha Chandrasekhar 4799 (1,9b,7c) 175 (2,5a,9b)

The 20 Most Mineral Rich Star Systems
Mineral Totals
Star System and Best Worlds
Beta Scorpii 12680 (5,7,3)
Delta Tauri 12080 (2,1,7)
Alpha Ceti 11739 (2,6b,5a)
Alpha Centauri 11476 (3,8,1)
Delta Aurigae 11005 (7,2a,1b)
Beta Cephei 10447 (6,9b,4)
Zeeman 10421 (5a,4a,6b)
Zeta Vulpeculae 9404 (3a,7,1)
Beta Normae 9153 (3,7,2)
Delta Brahe 9100 (1,3,9a)
Alpha Antliae 8734 (8c,5,3)
Alpha Columbae 8370 (5,4a,4b)
Epsilon Scuti 8365 (5b,4,3a)
Alpha Ptolemae 8055 (7a,7d,6c)
Beta Persei 8037 (6,3c,5a)
Beta Carinae 7982 (2,9d,9b)
Zeta Volantis 7912 (7,6,3)
Epsilon Normae 7718 (4,6,3b)
Alpha Crucis 7702 (2a,5,4a)
Iota Hyades 7379 (2,1,7a)

The 20 Most Life Rich Star Systems
Biological Totals
Star System and Best Worlds
Gamma Geminorum 341 (3,1,4c)
Lambda Hyades 329 (7,1,4a)
Delta Sextantis 322 (5a,1,2b)
Zeta Scorpii 309 (9a,8,3)
Beta Carinae 304 (4,3b,7a)
Beta Tauri 277 (1,5b,5a)
Gamma Sextantis 271 (3b,3a,1)
Delta Chandrasekhar 259 (3,6,7d)
Alpha Sextantis 257 (3,1b,1a)
Zeta Orionis 257 (5,4)
Delta Aurigae 256 (2,1b,1a)
Beta Corvi 255 (1,6,3)
Epsilon Sextantis 253 (2,3,6a)
Alpha Trianguli 252 (1,5,8b)
Beta Circini 248 (3a,1,2a)
Gamma Circini 247 (6,2,5)
Alpha Olber 241 (3,7,6a)
Gamma Mensae 234 (4,4a,7b)
Alpha Giclas 231 (4,7c,7a)
Epsilon Draconis 230 (8a,2a,7)

And to finish off:
Rainbow World Locations
In all cases, they are in the first orbital
position, closest to their sun.
Beta Pegasi
Epsilon Lipi
Groombridge
Beta Leporis
Epsilon Draconis
Gamma Aquarii
Gamma Reticuli
Zeta Sextantis
Gamma Kepler
Alpha Andromedae

Enjoy! - with access to Melnorme Trade Credits from the Rainbow Worlds, it is easy enough to skip to all the best tech, and economise on RU spending. Plus, with an uber-flagship with Fusion Blasters and Shiva Furnaces, you don't have to build so many damn ships all the time - even if you only use your flagship as a last resort.

Personally, I always try to get the Portal Spawner ASAP - that will save on fuel and time immediately.

Cheers,
Vol.

RU collecting is but one of the greatest thing about the game. Finding valuable planets, risking the lander on dangerous rich worlds & scanning.

Upgrading the lander

Too bad part 3 don't have that ability. In fact part 3 took away lots of fun.
Getting RUs out of nothing but just wait, is totally boring.

yeah yeah yeah.  i'm lame.    and you're all Leet Haxors because you've memorised the resources available on all the planets.

Actually, it's in a player's guide file from the original (DOS) SC2.  

(Showuing off ignorance) Who is Lee Haxor?

Elite Hackers.

Nonsense. You don't need to mine planets all game; actually you can finish the game very easily and naturally by mining the Centauri system and perhaps some gas giants (Zeeman is great) and finding three or four rainbow worlds (it's not that hard once you learn how they're arranged) to buy all the technology from the Melnorme and then you can just blast a pack of Ur-Quan's away for some 2000 RUs.
Summary: you just need to dedicate one round of mineral collecting. Go for Tzo-crystals and other precious minerals.

If you lame out, just download a memory editor or a save-game editor :P:P

As for me, I don't remember the special planets. I just mine here mine there. But if I need lots of resources, I get those free ships some race give, like Zoq-Fot-Pik & sell them. or just get 2 spathi eluders & attack both koah' ar & Kzerza. or get the codes for the slylandro probes then self destruct them over & over & get lots of RUs out of them.

You get RUs when you self destruct the probes?

You know, coming to think of it: I liked the mining part best.

I always felt bad about the crews' lives I had to risk to collect all those precious resources.

It's like watching the original Star Trek:

There'a guy you haven't seen before, he's wearing a red shirt, he's on the transporter platform, you don't even know his name, McCoy is part of the landing party AND you  k n o w  they're beaming into a hostile envirement...
"He's dead, Jim!"

Last time I kept the loss of crew to a minimum, lost more to battle than to mining!

Don't cheat - save!

I actually NEVER encountered a single probe ever again after I got the code from the Slylandro gas giant guys!

in the original i remember they just stop attacking once the code is transmitted but in UQM they stay is this a bug or am i dum?

I don't think you're dumb. I never encountered a single one after I brought home that code / talked to the Slylandro again at their homeworld who modified one of their probes...

RU collecting is excellent! Finding a ruby/emerald/sapphire world is always a real treat and collecting aurics and radioactives makes me feel better. Though I can't stand the commons...  ;)

True! I sometimes even empty out my cargo bay from commons to make more room for the goodies! (Only if I'm far away from home though)

Alpha Ptolemae is a great place to start (alpha centauri is too hot to mine much early on). Also, don't mine unsafe worlds that turn up few profits. Even after you get the shields, planets such as venus and super-dense worlds aren't worth it.

I never really go out of my way to get loads of RUs.  First I mine all the planets in sol except venus.  Then I do all the stuff i have to do and just mine the planets in the systems that i go to.  Also i never bother with rainbow worlds.  All my credits come from the 500 units of bio data i get from the umgah and the evil ones from the spathi homeworld.

I've never gone out of my way looking for Rainbow worlds, but the Thraddash will tell you about one if you take thm over and then decline to screw up their society, and the Slylandro will tell you about one if you keep talking with them. So that's another 1000 credits - more than enough if you don't need much in the upgrades department.

Tanaka also tells you where one is.

... really???? I guess you have to talk with him and make him friendly WITHOUT giving him the shofixti maidens?

Yeah.

You go and "fight" with him a lot and he will "guard the system" for you once you win him over.

He will then tell you where a rainbow world is.

Later, when you've aquired the maidens, you give him his reward.

Yeah Tanaka will tell you about one he encountered "on his way back home".   The topic goes under the header "why he thought you were a Ur-Quan pus cup".  ;D

The Sylandro mention two.


Oh! Then you should go check out a planet orbiting a blue star not too far from here.  I think there is another blue star right next to it.  We can't desribe exactly where it is, but the people who told us about it  the Ur-Quan, I think, said that it was one of the rarest worlds in space and that as far as they knew there were only ten of the planets in this part of the galaxy.


Joyous Lifting has remembered something else though it does not relate to the Shaggy Ones' Question, Answer, Departure Destination.  What my associate communicates is the description of a set of ten worlds, unlike all others.  The Shaggy Ones either discovered these planets or... this is garbled.. assembled them?  We were told the planets were... again this is confusing... organized (?) in some pattern which in some way alluded to the Shaggy Ones' ultimate fate. One of the worlds was described as orbiting one of a pair of blue stars not far from here. Another of these worlds circled a large white sun. That is all we can remember.


The Traddash mention one (along with the VUX beast if you wonder where that data comes from).


No history! -- Back to the subject of the probes!
We found one orbiting a strange planet in the Epsilon Draconis system.  The planet causes our scanners to malfunction, producing a wildly colored image.
The probe seemed to be studying it. Is this true?
SPEAK, HUMAN! REVEAL THE TRUTH! CONFESS YOUR CRIMES!  Well, if you will not cooperate we will have to extract the information from you in more painful ways.



Things are proceeding well, Captain.   We have discovered one item which may interest you.  There is an unusual world orbiting Epsilon Draconis, in close solar orbit.  Though it radiates energies which scramble our sensors we can detect many radioactive substances on the surface.  We suspect that this is one of the so-called `Precursor Dumps' described in some ancient text fragments we found in Alpha Apodis.
The text goes on to say that these Dumps are in some kind of pattern though what the pattern may be remains a mystery.
For now, that is all.


Tanaka tells you about one...you have to win him over and get him to stay and guard the system, then come back and talk to him.  Oh and he'll tell you about the Sun Device too.


On my way home, I encountered a VUX Intruder. Before I destroyed it the VUX was able to affix some of those vile limpet things to my ship and I had to return home at a greatly diminished speed.  I did find one thing interesting though as I skimmed through the edge of Yehat space.  I dropped into Zeta Sextantis to re-charge some of my depleted energy cells
so I moved into the extreme inner system. There, right next to the sun I found a very strange planet... it messed up my sensors somehow that's why I couldn't recognize your ship at first.  I'd never seen a planet like that before, so maybe you should investigate.


Not sure if there's any more, but there's 4 that are mentioned definitely.

Fuck Fusion Blasters! HELLBORE CANNONS ALL THE WAY!

I think you are the first person to post the friggin' f-word in a thread. How sad, I pity you!

I'm suppsoed ti went through though... I know some1 had a problem writing dman on the Starcontrol board because of the censoring machine... Apparently it's bee nturned off here?

Hey LP, can you imagine what that guy meant with this?

http://uqm.stack.nl/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Gendiscuss;action=display;num=1045859767;start=15

(and I'm not picking on your mispellings in this prior post made in an altered state of mind or a big hurry?)

Well, I have to say I have no idea, seeing as I read thrrough your post and it seemed fine to me. Maybe he was complemenmting you and you're just a suspicious B****rd? And yeas, writing a post after the sauna and before you go to town can result in weird spelling, my apologies.

There are legitimate reasons to want to cheat.
For example  I have already finished the game at LEAST 5 times, I just want some RU so I can fly around and see how things have changed since the original SC2.

That is the ONLY legitimate reason I can come up with! Exploring the galaxy at the cost of losing the whole game really sucks!

And LP, maybe I am a suspicious bastich - I just dislike being dissed by guests who are only here to pick on me  ;)
Oh, do you have your personal sauna? That is way cool! (Envy  :D)

Well, and then there's playing the game after you've beaten it a few times just to enjoy the story it tells. Nice to be able to do so without spending hours collecting RUs and such.

I'd also argue that there's some legitimacy to cheating when you are truely and completely stuck. It's terribly frustrating to find a game you love but can't beat to see how it ends. In that sort of situation, I say go for it. But in single-player games, I don't think there's anything wrong with an individual dicision to cheat, really. If that's what makes the game fun for you, have a blast. Because that's the point of these things. To have some fun, whether that comes from a sense of accomplishment in beating a challenging game, or blowing the stuffing out of all comers like some kind of space juggernaut, or just seeing the story unfold without the hassle of gameplay you find difficult, or perhaps even boring. Whatever flicks your bic. Yeah, there's a case for games played 'honestly' being more fun, and I tend to agree with that view myself. But do what works for you in getting entertainment out of it. I know there was a point to all this, but i've forgotten now.

Oh yeah! Cheating can be legitimate for lots of reasons.About the only time I'd chew someone out for it is if they'd never even tried having fun playing the game unaltered. As long as they have, and maybe hate some part of it they want to cheat around or whatever, it's all good.  8)

Well said Azzizi. I must say that even though I prefer to play games the "honest" way, I always find it a bit silly when people rant about cheaters. And I believe the point you were making in such an excellent way was : "Each to their own"

Now cheating in multiplayer, that's an altogether different matter.

Indeed. People who cheat in multiplayer games deserve to be thrown into the furnace at the very least.

Agreed, cheating in multiplayer games is not only unfair but dishonorable! Luckily, most games will tell the others when someone else cheats and thereby volunteers for a fist-in-line job on a Druuge Mauler  >:(

As for myself, I cheat (games!) on a regular basis. The main reason is that getting killed after 5 minutes is very frustrating. That's like going to the movies, seeing the introduction and first 5 minutes of the film and then have to leave...
Or if I just want to entertain myself. If I'm not indestructable in RL (LP, I've learned it!) why not try that in a game and behave like Gozilla?

I like the idea of a fist in line job for cheaters, yes... ;)

Oh no! Now please don't even sta't asking what a fist-in would be (and the'e's no fisting-line eithe').

I shall co''ect myself:
Ag'eed, cheating in multiplaye' games is not only unfai' but dishono'able! Luckily, most games will tell the othe's when someone else cheats and the'eby voluntee's fo' a 1st-in-line job on a D'uuge Maule' ;D

I meant fist in line, as in the fist is in line with them (i.e. a direct hit)

Note: I do not advocate violence, even against 14|\/|3|2Z (Transliteration: lamers. Translation: multiplayer game cheaters)

hello everyone.

I just kinda decided to post something here bout my first SC2 experience... ahh *gets all  nostalgic* i was roughly 8 years old.. ahh those days. i understood 500-1000 words of english ( im a finn so english isnt my primary language) and i used that "lander cheat" tho i didnt think it was a cheat back then and for me, it wasent.

If memory serves. i didnt understand much of what the aliens said in words but i got the mood of what they said.. which was kinda funny when exploring planets that were destroyed =) quite amasingly, i allmost finished the game... if you can imagine a 8 years old that cant understand what the aliens are talking about(for the most part). albeit that i had unlimited money.


i got all the way to getting the talking pet, the utwig bomb, and the chmmr freed... and getting some.. mm .. help. from the syreen ;) that was kinda fun. one of the things i DID understand XD i got all the upgrades.. cuz i actually DID explore the planets and get lots of "greens" =) ... i didnt get to finish the game cuz the kor-ah´s allways killed everyone.... i did finish the game many years later when i could fully understand what they talked about.

*side note: the difference between SC2 and SC3 is like the difference between MoO2 and MoO3...in both cases the 3rd ones are .. mm .. playable but nowhere NEAR the previous versions..." in anycase. have fun in the future ^_^

*puts on a pink tutu and starts dancing away and hums the pkunk theme song (mod version)*

I am curious about the Rainbow world that the Supox mention to you. There's two in their section of space in fact (you'd think the Utwig would be aware of the one in their system) not to mention (relatively) nearby Groombridge, but I do know that based off of the conversation files on PONAF the Supox do mention the location of a rainbow world in their sphere. My question is, how do you get them to cough up the info? I've never had them do that for me.

If it helps as a reference point (I was not aware of this one personally, but it's at PONAF for sure):

Is there any knowledge which you alone possess?

Knowledge is the purview of the Utwig. We Supox are but the effectuators.  In truth though, we have learned a fact or two unknown to others largely because we did not think anyone would care in the slightest, but since you ask, listen.
We have not fared far from our region of space, but we have explored this region thoroughly. Of all the oddities we have found, from the firefalls of Nalnar to the servants of Mali
the truest mystery was the nature of a world we found at the orange star, Beta Leporis. As a general rule, we prefer not to dwell in such long-wavelength regions as the light lacks tang, but we were on a mapping mission. That was when we found the planet. At first we thought our scanners had failed, for they showed us a world of chromatic aspect. Then we located the source of our malfunction... the planet itself! Somehow the planet generates a field of unusual radiations which scramble delicate circuitry. Though blazing hot, we attempted a landing. Before we were forced off the surface by the intense heat we registered the presence of huge amounts of processed radioactives. Strange, is it not?

But my question is how do you get this conversation piece to come up? Like the Thraddash bequeathing the information regarding the VUX Beast, I imagine it involves a lot of specific inquiries in the right direction. I've never managed to get the Supox to cough up this option... perhaps I need to interrogate them longer before I fix the Ultron...

FWIW, I interrogate the Supox usually before I get the Ultron and return it to the Utwig.  I have tried to interrogate them after I do that and the option "How is the war going?" usually gets coughed up...

My guess is you'll have to wait until the war happens and they return back, THEN interrogate them.

Speaking of conversation I don't know how to get, I notice in the PONAF conversations that the Supox and Utwig will both gift ships - I don't know when or how though - maybe this will come up if you hit their space AFTER the war happens and go to their homeworlds?

Well, according to the source, the first time you visit the Supox, soon after you've formed the alliance, you'll be given the option to say this:

#(can_you_help)
Two leaves pull water from the same root.

To this, they will either reply two things...if you have too many ships in your fleet, they will say:

#(HOW_HELP)      supox050.ogg
Such wisdom! Your meanings run deep, we ponder their significance.
Ah, yes! You wish us to give you assistance... such as our fighting ships!

#(DONT_NEED)      supox051.ogg
Yet, you seem to possess a fleet in concert with your need.
We will reserve what few ships we have left for our final defense against the Kohr-Ah.

Otherwise, they will say the HOW_HELP line, followed by the following:

#(HAVE_4_SHIPS)      supox052.ogg
Your words have merit. We shall dispatch a pod of our starships to join your fleet.