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The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release => General UQM Discussion => Topic started by: OnkelTheo on April 05, 2003, 03:27:29 am



Title: excuse me?
Post by: OnkelTheo on April 05, 2003, 03:27:29 am
erhm this might be a very stupid question, but what IS QuasiSpace? is it some other dimension to travel in or what?


Title: Re: excuse me?
Post by: Lukipela on April 05, 2003, 03:32:16 am
Yup. Just like Hyperspace is another dimension, Quasispace ios as well.Different rules applie there.


Title: Re: excuse me?
Post by: Omni-Sama on April 05, 2003, 11:42:36 am
Hyperspace is red.  Quasispace is green.

Hyperspace is basically a step up from TrueSpace, where the distances between star systems are greatly reduced and travel is much quicker.  Quasispace is a step up from Hyperspace, where holes link QS and HS.  Smaller distances between holes in QS can be amazingly far apart in HS.


Title: Re: excuse me?
Post by: AnonomouSpathi on April 05, 2003, 12:00:33 pm
Is QS definitely below normal space?  I seem to remember the orz saying that the arilou were from *Above*, and they seem to live there.

Anyway, yeah, it's another dimension.  Apparently a semi-safe one, as dimensions go.  Safe compared to Realspace or Hyperspace, or whatever space those androsynth happened upon.


Title: Re: excuse me?
Post by: OnkelTheo on April 06, 2003, 08:23:56 pm
hehe ok, but how do I get to QS? i can't find any portals or something like that :/


Title: Re: excuse me?
Post by: Lukipela on April 06, 2003, 08:38:05 pm
I'll give you a hint to start with, seeing a sI'm not sure how much help you want: there is a way to get into QS, but it all depends on if you're in the right place at the right time. Both the place and the time can be given to you from several different places, or you can buy it. I'd try two of the earliest races you meet in the game... Also, which one of your OLD allies is the most likely to konw about disappering in one place and suddenly appearing in another?


Title: Re: excuse me?
Post by: OnkelTheo on April 06, 2003, 09:49:14 pm
hmm lemme see that must be the Arilou.. ill go c them :D, thx for the help


Title: Re: excuse me?
Post by: meep-eep on April 07, 2003, 12:45:04 am
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Yup. Just like Hyperspace is another dimension, Quasispace ios as well.

Not quite. A 'dimension' is just an extent in some direction (like height, width, depth). Hyperspace can better be discribed as a (hyper-)plane outside the 3 (or 4 if you include time) dimensions we know. It could be parallel to our own plane, but maybe they intersect. Maybe it's a more complex shape than a plane even.
Quasispace could be another plane like Hyperspace within the same 4 (5 including time) dimensions, or it could be located on a hyperplane crossing yet another dimension.



Title: Re: excuse me?
Post by: RockasaurusRex2000 on April 07, 2003, 02:06:00 am
so is Quasi-Space *above* or *below* TrueSpace?


Title: Re: excuse me?
Post by: meep-eep on April 07, 2003, 03:36:16 am
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so is Quasi-Space *above* or *below* TrueSpace?

You can't really say that. If you draw a line on a piece of paper, and call that "TrueSpace", and you draw another line ("Quasi-Space"), then that second line is either parallel or intersects (if your paper is big enough). If they intersect, then neither of them is above the other. If not, you can just turn the paper up side down and the other one is above. So there's really no *above* or *below*. (A third line (for Hyperspace for instance) does not even have to be *on* the paper).
In "reality" (not on paper) it would be pretty much like this, only with more dimensions (no lines, but 'spaces').
What you may be able to conclude (or at least make a case for) from the Orz' statement "Orz are from *below*, Arilou are from *above*." would be that both Quasi-Space and Orz-Space are a hyperplane parallel to TrueSpace (though the actual space may be curved), and that they are on opposite sides of TrueSpace.


Title: Re: excuse me?
Post by: Matticus on April 07, 2003, 04:03:22 am
This is similar to what I thought. It's like a cookie, you have Orz-Space and Quasispace separated by the smooth, creamy TrueSpace middle (no wonder the Orz like it there so much!). But then how do the Orz know where the Arilou are from or where they're located? If the Orz have been to QS before doesn't that mean they would have had to travel through TrueSpace to get there?

Oi, all this speculation hurts my head. And it would really help if I actually knew what the hell I was talking about. =)


Title: Re: excuse me?
Post by: Scott on April 07, 2003, 05:03:49 am
Oy, Quasispace and Orz and truespace aren't just lines that are above or below each other... above and below are simply the ship's computer's BEST GUESS at translating Orz... it's not accurate, in fact it might even be incredibly inaccurate, but it's the closest words English has.


Title: Re: excuse me?
Post by: OnkelTheo on April 07, 2003, 11:21:36 pm
hmm i think i understand... btw thanks for all the replies at my mail :D