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They said they'd be releasing remixes of SC2's music periodically but it's been more than a week since the last remix. Two weeks per remix would take an eternity to finish them all, which makes me wonder how much they've really got done so far.

The idea of the periodic music previews is to give you something interesting while you wait for the UQM release that includes them all. The remixing team is moving very fast, and they've already got quite a number of tracks ready.
But it will take a while before the code is ready for another release, so they're taking it slow with the previews. That's also the reason why the message says "periodically" and not some number of days.
Also note the use of the term 'preview'. They're not necessarilly final tracks, and not all tracks may be released before the UQM release.

Just who the fsck do you think you are Shiver.
These people are doing the work for free, as a hobby, because they want to.
They dont have to conform to any release schedule just to please you.
If you want more remixes, go make some.

Feel the love.  :P

I think passing judgement on the remixes at this point is premature -- to me, they sound unfinished, most likely because (gasp!) they are.  And even if you don't end up liking the final versions of the remixes, noone is forcing you to use them.  They are but one of a multitude of options available to you.

If you've got constructive criticisms of the tunes, (and for the record, you do, re: vocal samples as bed music for a game with spoken dialog) by all means voice them, as many of the people on the remix team read the forums, and I'm sure appreciate the input; but for the love of all that is good, please try to be tactful about it.  The fastest way to get on a musician's list of "people to kill" is to tell them that they suck.  ;)

*grins* heheh, dont i know that ^_^

i voiced my concern now since they ARE unfinished.. since when they are finished it would be alot harder to change them... i think... in anycase, i dont plan to use the remixes myself but that dosnt and shouldnt stop a person from giving some input...

*gives everyone a lollipop*

My comments on the remixes:
1.Shofixty: should sound somewhat like Juno Reactor's Samurai and not as part of the 8 mile soundtrack.
2. Ilwrath: More ambience is in place, there's a part of the tune where it becomes ambient and stuff and you can actually imagine the evil spiders at work
3. Orbit: too much like the original, but good.
4. Take Saibuster's hyperspace mix for this project.
Praise Riku and Mark Vera

Eagerly waiting for another 'mix.






GOD:"Look mommy, I made light!"

The ilwrath remix has changed a bit. Sounds better now, and I noted the sound going back and forth to Riku as well, and he said he fixed it a bit, however the whole idea (said by Riku) to make the music annoying and feeling of oppression. Like ilwrath :)



About the speech, you're right. I don't know how the shofixti will change/has changed. But probably will(?).

eh. too much like the original  :D

Well, must say that even if it's quite simple song, it's quite hard to remix that one that way you actually can tell it's remix of it.. Don't worry, there will be more oribital music, even original for UQM. :) Don't know if I do second a different remix of the oribital music.. maybe, maybe not.



There's quite good Riku's (naturally his) hyperspace remix waiting (don't know the recent changes to it). I listened it couple of times, and I think it fits quite well to hyperspace.. though some might disagree :)

I bet you will use atleast some of the remixes.. there are some quite good ones..

Correcting you here. The news says that the tracks which will be released are final and mastered versions - same files will be used in the game. This is what impression I got from Riku, and that's why the Orbit remix is actually third master of the track, and a bit changed mix of that one you probably heard earlier.

I rather like the Ilwrath remix. I was indifferent to it at first ,but since then it's grown on me. My only real complaint is that it seems about 15 seconds too short. It just seems to need something else in there.

I liked the orbit remix, too. I think that one is just about perfect.

The Shofixti remix, though... ugh. The voices within would get annoying as had been stated and it just feels off. I likely won't be using that one, which is a pity since the original Shofixti  music is one of my favorites.

Why, I'm fscking Shiver. And try using a fscking question mark, a fscking comma, and spell "fscking" right next time you ask a fscking question because typing like that doesn't make any fscking sense.

Ahem... you're missing the point. I asked this because the update with the Orbit Remix said that they had most of the remixes already done so I thought it was ridiculous that they would wait so long before releasing more. A moderator was nice enough to inform me that they had to fix around with the files somehow before releasing them which was the response I was searching for. So think before you go ballistic.

Welp, since the new probe remix is out, this thread is getting a bump.

I actually like this one a whole lot.  It strays distantly from the original..but then, the original wasn't exactly one of the standout pieces.  I don't see how you could've not strayed from the original, and managed to remix it at all.

It does do the most important things, imo.  It sticks to the spirit of the sylandro probes, doesn't completely eradicate the original theme of the tune....and it's melodic enough to not make me want to do anything possible to get out of the conversation.  I swear, at times I blew up slyandro probes just to make that orignal song stop.



Gotta wonder though, if it will ever be fully appreciated in-game.  While only 3 or so minutes long, most of the 'conversations' with the probes last about 10 seconds.  Doesn't make for full appreciation of the tune.  I reckon it will be a lot like Riku's orignal mycon music - that piece was extremely well done, but it was long, and most of the conversations with the mycon were very short.  Wasn't until long after I finished SC2 that I found out just how much there was to that selection.

Even though the new "remix" of the Slylandro Probe "music" doesn't really have any connection to the original other than the phrase "We come in peace." (correct response: "Then you go in pieces!") both forwards and backwards, it's a well made, funky drum and bass sort of thing. The question is really "Does it fit the probes?", and I'd say the answer is a yes. We are talking broken but very high tech atmosphere here. The sort of low-key unemotional determination a Melnorme 2418-B would have, right there in the relentless beat.

It's a bit too early to tell, but I think the "final" remixes seem to be a lot more thought out and polished than the previews released earlier. Keep up the good work, guys. Now, if only I could convince those pesky probes to talk to me a bit longer without executing a "priority override". I hate debugging programs that fail unsafely. Cripes, you'd think that an advanced civilisation like the Melnorme would have heard about failsafes.

My thoughts on the remixs:

Orbit: Very cool.  Everyone likes the real music from the game, I don't see whats wrong with having a few remastered versions of some songs.
Probe: I like it, quite good.  My only problem is not enough of the 'we come in peace' lines, I think the pc version was a bit overkill, but somewhere in the middle would be good, espically to pad some of the less-busy parts.
Ilwrath:  Good, just a bit lacking in stuff.  Seems to get a bit too mellow at some parts (although this is moot since there is supposed to be a better new version.
Shofixti: For the most part it is pretty good, just too much scratching and the voices really kinda ruin it.

All in all I like most the remixes that people have been doing (not just the offiical ones) and I on behalf of my ears, I thank you all.

I rather like the probe remix too, but I have the same problem with it that I have with the original: in a game with speech, the music should have no vocals -- otherwise the music tramples on what is spoken.

I can imagine a "re-remix" of this track with no vocal samples at all, and in my mind it would fit underneath the probes perfectly.  But this remix is a fine homage to the original, in addition to being an excellent piece of music in its own right.  If the members of Medeival Future are reading this forum, my hat goes off to you.

We do indeed read the forums, or at least I do. I'm Espen Gätzschmann, one of the two guys behind the Probe remix. It's cool to see that the remix is so well received by all of you. Remixing music for a project like this is scary stuff, with all the rabid fans of the originals still hanging around. ;)

good job folks, I see that there are many talented people working on the tunes of this game.

Hm... the probe remix does in fact sound quite nice but I think I prefer the quirky, insane, and somewhat demonic original.

WE COME IN COME IN DGHRSTHS, WE COME IN PEACE! (we come in peace.)   WE COME IN PEACE!

Well, this is a guess, but I'm guessing you'll be waiting a long time for at least 2 of those.  I'd bet that the ur-quan and the yehat will be two of the last remixes to be released, since they're the ones most likely to catch flack.  

Okay, I just downloaded Winamp 3.0 and I'm listening to the new Slylandro song...
OMG TEH SONG IS TEH R0X0RZ!!!!!111!1!1!!!
This kicks ass. If all the other remixes are this quality I will be one very, very happy person come 1.0.

I've heard one version of Slylandro song, The Ur-Quan - no idea, Chmmr - very great remix imho, Yehat not entirely sure about it's status.. And Quasi-Space is ready as I made it myself.

To question what remix will be released next.. it's up to Riku. But I can quite safely say that it is very likely it won't be my Quasi-Space remix. It is too awesome remix to be released in advance.. hehe  ;D

The sylandro probe music is good, I liked it. It fits rather good to probes.. the vocals.. I don't think they are annoying in the game in this song.

I, personally, can't wait for the Spathi and ZFP remixes.

Thanks.. though my personal opinion is that it needs remake :)

I quite enjoyed the Slylandro remix, although it could be a little more like the original, with a more WE COME IN PEACE voice overs at varying pitches/speeds/volumes to give it that confused machine quality.

I must agree with Gill Bates's comments about Saibuster's Hyperspace mix, it is awesome.
Mark have you or Riku listened Saibuster's hyperspace mix?
Your thoughts?

Is nice remix. Intro is too long considering overall length. Sounds are okay, maybe little bit more filter could have done justice. Tempo is slower than original, so the song is more of chilling, than exciting hyperspace trip. It's missing some clear melody part even though all the melodies from the original are there. Drums could have a bit more variation. Nice remix, didn't hook me though. Probably because it has this a bit lazy feeling.

Saibuster did good job, not arguing with that. I'm just quite critical about music, not happy with my own music either :)

Nic, I agree with you 99% of the time where regards no vocals in music, but for the Sylandro probe music, I have to make an exception. In SC2, all that chatter going on kinda added to the character of those little buggers... it kinda made me feel that the probes were malfunctioning.

And the problem is, with the remixes, you need to incorporate at least one element of the song. And since "we come in peace" being spewed out at various frequencies, sparse beat notwithstanding, was ALL the song, there's no getting around keeping it in, IMstupidO.

And what's this I hear about a Shofixti remix? Where can I give it a listen, or do I need to pan down the front page or something?

Personally i would prefer remakes in addition to the remixes with scratching and other stuff that's not part of originals. The remake versions would stick to the original songs as much as possible and make it sound like if it was done to sound like what the originals are, but with todays technology. Look at the current melodic electronic music that takes influences from 80's and kraftwerk but with more accurasy, punch and enchanced feel.

If there's many remixers to one song, would be great if atleast one of them would do like this instead of making the song sound too modern/today style..

Personally i like the orbit1_remix.ogg a lot as you can guess from this writing and mv's hyperspace mix is quite nice too..

and a opinion about the orbit mix:
the background sounds "wooooshhh" come too much in sync with the main melody and maybe rise too loud covering up the nice sounding instrument of the original theme. Good ambience there still!

The orbit song is clearly a remake.. might be nice if there was tagging in songs like orbit_remake and xxx_remix and then player was able to choose whether he's in the mood of the original theme and the total remixes. For oldschool sound one could use the .mods ofcourse heh.

thanks, Knowluh. looking forward to giving it a listen  :)

I agree you with this one, and that's why my remixes are more of a remakes. Though the Quasi-Space remix.. well, you could call it remake when you hear it. Even though I scratched it quite a lot, imho it still has the original feeling. Hope you like it when you hear it.. :)



Not sure if there are that many remixes of one song, as it's quite a big job even to do full set of remixes of all of them. Even though I do some remixes for this project, and some songs are remixed already, I have my personal project to remix all the song myself. I hope to finish it some day :) Three songs already made, 4 started.. and lots of ideas for others.



Thanks, and there's always something to improve ;) I need to remake the Hyperspace remix some day when I have the time.