The Ur-Quan Masters Discussion Forum

The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release => General UQM Discussion => Topic started by: Geoff Speare on June 03, 2003, 10:23:37 pm



Title: Zot-Fot-Pik question
Post by: Geoff Speare on June 03, 2003, 10:23:37 pm
[early-game spoilers follow]




Played SC1 back in the day (Go Spathi!), just picked this release up and am enjoying it immensely. In my game, I just found out that I took too long to get back to the Zot-Fot-Pik homeworld -- it has been wiped clean. Does this pose a problem for my solving the game, or was it something that was more or less bound to happen?


Title: Re: Zot-Fot-Pik question
Post by: Culture20 on June 03, 2003, 10:48:36 pm
Neither.  If you wanted to fly a Zoq Fot Pik ship, then it's a problem, and they might have helped by giving you information (which you can get elsewhere).  There are very few unrecoverable mistakes in SC2 when it comes to letting races die off.  The biggest loss to your game is all of the poor dead wood jukes and tree narfs.  :'(


Title: Re: Zot-Fot-Pik question
Post by: nascarfanatic on June 03, 2003, 11:35:23 pm
You're probably better off with them gone! Otherwise, they whine all the time because they are getting attacked and you have to go to their rescue. What a pain.



Title: Re: Zot-Fot-Pik question
Post by: Kohr-Ah_Primat on June 04, 2003, 12:15:43 am
Not to mention, if you run into them right at the beginning, then they yammer for help LONG before your flagship is likely strong enough to take out a Marauder.

*rolls eyes* Of course, you could always send the 'Incredible Fwiffo' in.


Title: Re: Zot-Fot-Pik question
Post by: Lukipela on June 04, 2003, 12:18:02 am
At day, a mild mannered, insanely frightened spathi goinf under the name Mr Fwiffo. However, at night, he becomes Super-Fwiffo, harbringer of doom, destroyer of entire battlefleets!

Fear him. Fear the Spathi. For they will be your undoing foul creatures!


Title: Re: Zot-Fot-Pik question
Post by: nascarfanatic on June 04, 2003, 12:19:57 am
Don't forget what a Super Swinger he is! Yeah, baby!

Oh, behave! :-*


Title: Re: Zot-Fot-Pik question
Post by: koDe on June 04, 2003, 02:22:41 am
All heil Fwiffo, the defeater of the Kohr-Ah horde. He's the real hero, Zelnick's just a sidekick :-)
Actually, I've rarely even bothered to upgrade my flagship to a real killer, since Fwiffo can manage most of the battles, with a lot lower cost.


Title: Re: Zot-Fot-Pik question
Post by: Death 999 on June 04, 2003, 03:35:33 am
Considering that there is no atmospheric pressure for which they can both exist, it's a rather moot question. Maybe they could design ultra-high-pressure waldos so they could torture the slylandro.


Title: Re: Zot-Fot-Pik question
Post by: guesst on June 04, 2003, 03:36:39 am
Quote
Hmm, this topic made me wonder:

What would an Illwrath do with the ZFP? Humans are quite squishy from the inside, but the ZFP ?

For that matter, what would an Illwrath do with a Slylandro gasbag?


With the ZFP, an Illwrath would have a 3 course meal.

The Slylandro would just give him gas.

And BTW, Luk, are you a fan of Invader Zim? Your "Fear him. Fear the Spathi. For they will be your undoing foul creatures!" was aweful zim-like.


Title: Re: Zot-Fot-Pik question
Post by: Lukipela on June 04, 2003, 02:26:16 pm
No, what's Zim? Something I've missed obviously, but perhaps somethingI should look into?


Title: Re: Zot-Fot-Pik question
Post by: Phasics on June 04, 2003, 03:40:00 pm
Your all Missing the most important Question, which is up the with the meaning of life.


[WHICH ONE'S THE FOT ?!


Title: Re: Zot-Fot-Pik question
Post by: Lukipela on June 04, 2003, 06:19:46 pm
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I do believe that one has been answered already ;) If I recall correctly, somewhere in the code is a reference that states that they go from left to right, Zoq, Fot and Pik.

Of course, I may remember this incorrectly, would anyone care to confirm this?


Title: Re: Zot-Fot-Pik question
Post by: Novus on June 04, 2003, 07:01:38 pm
Quote
Your all Missing the most important Question, which is up the with the meaning of life.[WHICH ONE'S THE FOT ?!
Yeah, am I Fot or not? Cripes! We've been through this a million times!

Looking at sc2/src/sc2code/comm/zoqfot/zoqfotc.c, the only creatures that talk are the Zoq and the Pik. Which I guess means that the Fot is the quiet guy in the middle. No wonder we never figured out who's the Fot. I wish he just would have spoken up and admitted that he's the Fot. It would have saved a lot of arguments...


Title: Re: Zot-Fot-Pik question
Post by: nascarfanatic on June 04, 2003, 07:21:47 pm
Am I mistaken that he speaks in the end credits? It's been a long time since I've seen it, but I thought they threw that in.

Then again, I'm totally insane, having underwent an Excrutiator for several years (a.k.a. marriage). ;D


Title: Re: Zot-Fot-Pik question
Post by: Phasics on June 05, 2003, 06:35:33 pm
I'm still not convinced till I hear it from the FOT  ;)


The SC2 desginers dont even know which one the FOT is, sure they may have coded it from left to right, but you know the ZFP , they always get a lil confused, least they all agree on the Zebranky ;)