The Ur-Quan Masters Discussion Forum

I remeber something baout there being a one year time limit to this game (until you set something in action).  Does this hold true for this version or is it just my old memory playing tricks on me.

You've got four years time before bad things start to happen, and you can postpone it by another year.

Yup, A time limit. In The Ur-Quan Masters it seemed that it is gone (Or is the date just missing...?)
         Time limit is a bad and good thing same time. Bad because knowing that there is a time limit makes you nervous (It makes me. Maybe I just suck in SC2). Good because it will give you freedom to do what you want when you want. Maybe there could be difficulty levels??

Dumb question:  How do you postpone it another year?

Geez, all you get is 4 years.. I almost already wasted one just putzing around

the utwig and supox go and fight the kohr ah once you fix the ultron.

you can also have the thraddash attack, but its better to have the ilwrath attack the thrads...

You can do both, actually. What I mean is you can send the Thraddash after the Kohr-Ah and then later send the Ilwrath after the Thraddash. Doing so has the same effect as not having the Thraddash attack the Kohr-Ah (trying not to give *too* much away here, just in case) =)

Matticus

Getting the Thraddash to attack the Kohr-Ah doesn't give you any extra time.

Actually, I read about several things in the 3DO version in a Tips & Tricks magazine many, many years ago.

THE FOLLOWING MIGHT CONTAIN SPOILERS.


First, I thought the last year you have before the Ur-Quan starts to destroy everybody was 2163.  They supposedly go after every race and destroy them.  After they do that, they go after the Earth Starbase, which means "Game Over".  In effect, doesn't that give you eight years?  Or is it that you have four years before the Ur-Quan start doing stuff, but it doesn't end until several years afterwards?

Second, I read that you could delay the Ur-Quan's rampage through space until 2164 (an extra year) if you find and repair some ancient weapon for some race.  Is this true?

 the game is delayed a year if you find and fix the ultron for the utwig.

good luck =)

I fell victim to the 4 year limit, currently I'm disabled in one hand so I went from fight fight fight to flee flee flee. In 2158 I finally got to check out the Zots and enroute ran into a Kzer-za whosaid that time was up. I watched in horror as every few months another race ceased to exist. It was quite depressing to watch each race one by one get annihilated. :'(

They start killing everyone in 2160. It happened to me in the UQM because I was playing around, instead of doing what I was suppost to do, so I had to go back to an old save. Anyway, it's no big deal. If you've playied the game before it should be easy for you to complete every task in more then enough time (even if the Utwig and Supox didn't give you an extra year).

Correction...they finish killing everyone in 2160 (if you don't talk with the supox and utwig).

After killing everyone in 2160, do they immediately head for the Earth Starbase?

Yes, they kill all battle thralls first, then all other races. The last one to die, before you, is the Yehat. Once they're dead, you'll only a short time before they say something about all races being dead, including those on the starbase and then the game is over (you see the Korh-Ah head toward Earth, on your map).

The first time I completed the game the Kohr-Ah helped me... They started to rampage around the galaxy destroying people and in doing so destroyed the fleet around a planet i needed to get to the surface of...  It's ten years ago but it might have been the Mycon planet with the Sun Device...  I then managed to hurtle around doing what I needed to do to complete the game, I think the Zoq Fot Pik were just about to be vapourised when I managed to destroy the Sa Matra...

The second time I managed to kick the Kohr-Ah all over the show before the time limit was up. :)

Funny that they kill the battle thralls first.

I would expect the ZotFoqPik to be the first race to vanish, only because their entire territory lies within UrQuan and KohrAh airspace.

When I left the ZotFoqPik homeworld (after becoming allies), I encountered Ur Quan and Ur Quan Kohr Ah (They didn't call themselves just 'Kohr Ah'.  I assume they are just the 'Kohr Ah', or am I wrong?).  After checking the StarMap, I realized why.  EEppp.... I ran out of there pretty quickly.  Eight of them were on my tail. :)

Oh the Zot-Fot-Pik! I completely forgot about them (i haven't bothered trying to ally with them in years). But, anyway, you're right. If I remember correctly, if you talk to them, the starbase commander will say that the Zot-Fot-Pik sent a distress call saying that it was worse then the Zebranky. Then, if you go there, you'll find them all killed. After which, they will go to the battle thralls (most just disapear from the map before the Korh-Ah even head toward them). Then, they head up to Traddash space, over to Utwig/Supox space, all the way down to Yehat space, and finally to Earth. Sorry for the confusion.

Definitely. All I really wanted to do is go gallivanting about the galaxy collecting minerals; now I find out there is a time limit!!  :o

Beginner: No limit, or something like 10-20 year limit
Advanced: 5 years
Expert: 2 years, maybe 3

and the enemy AI could correspond to the difficulty levels as well. I think it is a good idea at least. Please? I want more time to dick around :'(

Well the problem with adding years for beginners and taking away years for advanced players is explainning the overall SC timelime (in future versions of SCII you need to know what year the war ended). But, anyway, I died the first time I ever played (thanks to the Korh-Ah). But luckly I made two saved files. The first, was my main and the second was years before. So, I started playing the second file and easy beat the game. In fact, I beat the whole game in 3 days, (including the time I spent being killed) so making it easier would, in my mind, mess up the game.

I have met a situation where the Kohr-Ah have destroyed everone and transmitted the message: "You are defeated." Regardless, the game could be continued and Sa-Matra be destroyed. It seemed very buggy though, can't remember exactly what happened.

Well that's kidda hard to do when they destoryed your starbase and every other living being in this sector (even the Melnorme are gone, but they probably just ran away) and so you can't get fuel, crew, ships or new upgrades. And if you haven't gotten the Chmmr to put the Ultron on your ship yet, you can't destory the Sa-Matra even if you weren't dead.

Do they say that quote again?  Cause I know they say it the first time a lone Kohr-Ar stumbles onto their home planet and they ask you for help.  It sounds kind of odd for them to say the exact same quote a second time right before getting slaughtered.

Well when they die they don't tell you. They send a message to the starbase commander and he tells you what they said (he doesn't quote it, he just gives you the general idea).

The Zoq-Fot-Pik were just eliminated on my game. The date that I heard the Starbase Commander tell me about the Ur-Quan transmission (it was most likely an Ur-Quan transmission, as he describes it as 'exhultant') was February 21, 2157.  I had visited the Starbase a week before that, so they were elminated within that week.

Does making allies with them affect when they die?

Man, if there were any way to disable the time limit, I would be so happy. I like to just take my time and do everything and I hate being rushed into anything, even if I get 5 years. Even a cheat option or something would be great.

Well now that this game is open source, I'm sure it won't take long after the final version is released for someone to do that. Even though I the time limit doesn't really bother me, I would like to take a game to just explore.

I guess if it can be added as an option, that wouldn't be so bad, but personally, I don't think the timeline of the game needs altering.

Time limit, the reason I didn't finish the game back then, when I was horribly young and frightened of time limits. :P

And some facts from high up (that's my bro):

He finished SC2 today and he ended it in 2157 autumn. That's pretty quick.  The first time he ever played the game, he finished before the Kohr-Ah ever won. Still pretty quick. Probably in 2158. The fact about time limit is, that you really depends on what you are doing. If you just dig up minerals, no wonder you run out of time. Since he hasn't even seen the Ur-Quan Kzer-Za go down, he has absolutely no experience about the last year.

I, myself, have played UQM to 2157 and been dealing quite a lot. Ship fully prepared, going for a tour around the quadrant. ;)

You can still beat the game, right up until they come to Earth - So the time limit's a little longer than most people think it is.  After the time you can add with sidequests, and combined with the 'Places of Interest' marked starmap, you can finish pretty quick.

Screwy,  I'm already at the beginning of 2159, and no race that I know of (save the Xoq-Fot-Pik) have been eliminated by the Kohr-Ah.  It's possible that they killed perhaps Sylandro or Thraddash (the former doesn't appear on your map, the latter I haven't met).  Also, do the Kohr-Ah actually eliminate their Ur-Quan Kzer-Ah?

EDIT:  Played some more.  The Kohr-Ah headed towards the Druuge on February 6, 2159, or something like that.  They killed them on March 19.

So, they move on 2159.  Gives you exactly four years (like meep-eep said) before they start charging.

Yes, soon after you contact them on their homeworld, a Kohr-Ah Marauder shows up and bombards their planet. If you don't eliminate it quickly, the Zoq-Fot-Pik are destroyed and you hear the said 'exultant war cry'.

Which is why I never contact them until the Precursor ship is fully armed, or I am able to build ships that are a match for the Marauder.

Something I wondered about the game, is how absolutely quickly you could win the game, if you knew where to go.

Your main concern would be sufficient RU from not mining at all, which would be alleviated by Chmmr anyways. But up to that point, I imagine you'd want to invest all your RU in thrusters and fuel.

Obviously, 'optionals' like the Portal Spawner would be in your best interest to obtain, from the sheer time they save you. You'd best refrain from other 'optionals' like the Shofixti revival / Yehat insurrection and Slyandro Probe however. Still, I think if you played things right, you could win the game within a year.