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1  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: *Frumple* on: December 10, 2008, 10:39:36 am
Ya, sry for overexplaining, i dont mean to underestimate anyone, just like to make myself clear.
It is hard to discuss it without direct points to the dialogue between humans and Orz, and I dont have it here.
The translator works both ways. So to a being which doesn't use eyes as its main sensory device (which is my assumpsion), when a human asks something about the way you look, or anything remotely in that direction, the orz would get a translation as "the way you reflect light".
Sure, the Orz are pictured with eyes on their heads, so this is open to interpretation. I imagine it a bit like a conversation with a blind man, the way one side uses colour, shape and other light reflection associations, and the other uses form, feeling etc. touchy-feely associations.

P.S. Would be interesting to hear oppinions on some of the other unanswered questions in the game:
1) Are the Orz the ones who killed the Andosynth? Are they dead? Are the Orz the ones Arilou are talking about?
Interesting topic, cause, if you listen to words it appears Arilou are the good guys and Orz are the invaders BUT
if you look at actions... Arilou did experiments on humans and never showed themselves, they didnt help Earth after the shield was raised, they didnt let you see whats on their homeworld's surface, they *mistakenly* fixed the talking pet (arguably the most dangerous life form out there), and if you ask the Melnorme about them they say something vague in the line as "they might be good or bad".
Orz on the other hand always seem nice and friendly, as long as you dont bother them too much. They help you right away, and they DO help you - they send you ship designs, officers, and considerable firepower, and till the end never do anything wrong, just weird.
There seems, to me, that on words and on deeds there exists a little difference between the two races
2  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: *Frumple* on: December 10, 2008, 09:24:54 am
Ya, agree that it is only speculation, and purely my thoughts on this. Just wanna add some larifications.
The space measurement of our world is 3D - height, width and depth. So the Orz would be at least a 4D beings in a 3D world. (thats counting space without time)
My take on *light reflections* is  - humans see objects by the light that those objects reflect into your eyes. Thats how eyes work, and thats why you dont see anything when it is dark. Orz on the other hand are *fingers* (according to FR3 himself), so they dont *see*, but *feel* things, and thats why they dont use light reflections. Also this explains all the *touching* adjectives they use to describe objects.
3  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: *Frumple* on: December 10, 2008, 08:50:21 am
Sorry to burst your *bubble*, sort of speak, but I think you guys are goin a bit too far.
- Quote from PR3: "The Orz is part of Them, the projection of Them into TrueSpace."
Now Let's go through that Orz dialog...
- "Orz are not *many bubbles* like *campers*. Orz are just Orz.  I am Orz..."

Meaning - Orz are not many different entities like *campers* i.e. humans. Orz is just ONE entity. All the Orz are, are just the tips of the one entity reaching through in heavy space. So those Orz connect somewhere in the other space, into the one collective body, which is Orz, hence " I am Orz" not "We are Orz".
Picture it like many tentacles, that reach through so u only see the tips of each tentacle, and they seem like many different beings, like a race, but they are actually only one creature on the other side.
This creature refers to humans as *bubbles* in the same way as humans refer to slylandro as *gas bags*
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