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1  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: Mass Effect. on: November 15, 2006, 02:20:39 pm
After Googling a bit, it seems to become increasingly unlikely that LoreAlmighty is a shill. My apologies. Welcome to the UQM forums. Cheesy


If you're serious with that, Thanks for the apology, and no hard feelings from me at least.
2  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: Mass Effect. on: November 15, 2006, 02:20:02 pm
They haven't revealed much on the interaction with other species, but it does sound like they will bring them to life much like SC2 did.

What does this  even mean? They'll be drawn characters? They'll give you several conversation options? They'll have... you know what, never mind. I can't even guess what it's supposed to mean, so please enlighten me.

This means that the alien species will seem in depth in  the way they were in SC2,  BTW, Mass Effect is using some new unique conversation system.

On the conversation system-"Making this easier on the player is a brand new communication system. Rather than scrolling through a list of possible responses during conversation, the various directions of the right analog-stick are mapped to different emotional response types; simply moving the stick leads to the proper tone without requiring you to read through every potential response. You could of course still read through everything before making a choice, but those looking to keep it moving could, for example, hold Right to fire off snarky answers or hold Left to be more pleasant. Plus, you don’t have to wait for people to finish sentences, as you can queue up a response in mid-stream, then watch it all play out seamlessly."

Quote from http://www.game-revolution.com/preview/xbox360/mass_effect

3  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: Mass Effect. on: November 15, 2006, 12:16:23 am
And a question about the game itself, what exactly about it would make this game particularly interesting to Star Control fans?
Just the exploring of uncharted regions of space? While I agree that that is a nice part of SC2, it's hardly unique to it.


I'd have to semi agree with you. They haven't revealed much on the interaction with other species, but it does sound like they will bring them to life much like SC2 did. It's really much more appealing to Kotor fans.  But I didn't make this thread, Lore did, so he should be better equipped  to answer that question.
4  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: Mass Effect. on: November 15, 2006, 12:12:38 am
Quote from: meep-eep
Well, I never heard of it. And noone here who has spoken out on this topic seems to have either. The gaming industry is a a competitive one, and I've never known big businesses to be particularly shy of dubious practices.

But they wouldn't need to employ me or lore to advance the word on mass effect.

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Why wouldn't they hire you?
Because i'm not 18 yet, and I'm not even in canada, so they couldn't hire me anyway. I'd have to relocate.

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Maybe he didn't want to make it too obvious that he was shilling?

I already pointed that out, anyone could use the "he didn't want to make it obvious he was shilling". Like I said, let the conspiracy theories flow!


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Why is it bad? He advances awareness about the game, and noone would blame Bioware for one of their fans being too lazy to find a link.

It's bad because he didn't really give any info with the post. He just says "hey guys, what do you think of X game." I think people would agree that is bad advertising. It has no flare to it.
5  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: Mass Effect. on: November 14, 2006, 08:40:44 pm
Druuge don't have nets. You would've known this if not for the fact that you're a shill, shill. You and your shilly firends should just shill off back to Shilltown where you shillers obviously came from.

I like the world shill. It sounds silly.

Hey, don't be insulting my hometown of Shilltown.....it may not have all the glamor of big time cities like Paris or New York, but we have the best SHILL militia ever!

EDIT: Out of curiosity, why are you using the same computer? Are you closely related, or is one of you mooching? Cause if one of you is mooching, he might also be a shill. Just saying.

Oh, we are related. We're brothers, and we share this computer together, much cheaper than buying two computers.
6  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: Mass Effect. on: November 14, 2006, 08:30:39 pm
He's not an Ilwrath, Ilwrath's don't care about PROFIT! He's a Druuge. Us three are Druuge's. Damn, my cover has been blown!
7  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: Mass Effect. on: November 14, 2006, 08:21:41 pm
I'm thinking Meep-eep's conspiracy theory isn't too far off base. But if Lore and swbf are the same person and that person is a "shill", couldn't he just include tons of info about the game in the first post like I frickin' told him to? That's a better post, and a better job of shilling.

Nah, it's way off base. Lore and me aren't the same person, we just use the same computer. I should have used torpark to post here....now I regret not using it. But as you said, if he wanted to whore out the game, why not include the summary of the game in the post, along with reasons why he thinks it will be an awesome game. Lore's original post is bad advertising if it was meant to be advertising. Plus, he tried to lock the topic.

But oh wait, maybe that's Bioware's plan, get people to think that they are bad at shilling when it's really SHILLING! Oh let the conspiracy theories flow!
8  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: Mass Effect. on: November 14, 2006, 08:03:59 pm
For those of us who aren't ardent gamers and don't follow such events, any new game is an unknown. The newest game I know of is probably Half-Life 2 or some such. I haven't played it, but I've seen it mentioned. Anything newer or with less hype is probably completely unknown to me. Sad

Yeah, Lore was under the guise that everyone in the gaming world is keeping up with all the latest gaming news.

Or is this just sarcasm again?
9  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: Mass Effect. on: November 14, 2006, 07:26:24 pm
Well, apparently Lore registered on the SCDB only to make a post about this. Does that make his shilliness more likely, or less? I say, this is terribly exciting isn't it. I'd never even heard about this phenomenon before, at least not to such an advanced extent.

I'm sure he did it because he probably wanted to know what Star Control fans thought of "mass effect". He was under the mistaken guise that everyone's heard of the game, because of the commotion it gave off at last year's E3.
10  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: Mass Effect. on: November 14, 2006, 07:25:04 pm
Quote from: meep-eep
Doesn't that read to you that he says that a Star Control rip-off is good, as long as it isn't SC3? And weren't you claiming that this game feels like a spiritual successor to SC2 (before anyone pointed out the similarity of the story to SC2)?

Nope, that was LORE saying it's a spiritual sequel!

Quote from: meep-eep
There are companies that pay people to get involved with forum communitities just so they can insert astroturfing remarks when the time comes. See here (and a followup here) for example.
A few 2 line postings made before bringing up Mass Effect aren't really that convincing.

As for why a shill would not be using a proxy, it would have to be an anonymising proxy, and most of them are unintentionally run by the owner of the computer, which would bring with it all sorts of legal issues. And ofcourse the shill may not even know how to use a proxy.
Then again, posting from the same PC twice to pretend you're two people is indeed a pretty stupid thing for a shill to do. But "being smart" would not have to be on the job description of a shill (unlike "lack of morals").

In my experience, when people start off-topic postings, they do that only if they feel part of the community, or if they have something to advertise. Now it is possible that you're a long-time lurker and already feel like you're part of the community, even though you haven't engaged in any discussion and just asked a few help-desk questions (which isn't a bad thing in itself). But more often than not, such a person just has something to advertise. At the very least, it is a red flag.

I'm not saying that you (two) definitely are part of some astroturfing campaign -- you wouldn't have an account here anymore if I was convinced. But I am not convinved you aren't one either.

Using an anonymous proxy is easy. Hell, I could just use Torpark to disguise my IP. But as to your whole "hired to spread the word of X product." Bioware doesn't need that kind of advertising. It's a big name in the gaming industry, and the game won best RPG at last year's E3. Trust me, Bioware doesn't need such shills, and they sure as hell wouldn't hire me to do such a thing anyway.
11  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: Mass Effect. on: November 14, 2006, 06:03:37 pm
Star Control 2 is not Star Control 3.

Maybe you should read the whole post from him.....

"Awesome, I'll pay big bucks for any rip off of Star Control!

Wait. They're using the plot of Star Control 3: Cat Turd Editon? Uh, yeah. I think I'll wait another few years until Ninja Gaiden 2 comes out before I buy a NextBox."


I'll accept your "different people using a single computer" for now. But I will keep an eye on you (two?).
I find it very suspicious when someone who isn't a regular here suddenly starts a thread asking about another game, with the only other person who's enthousiastic about the game being another non-regular from another account from the same IP address, and who as soon as there are some comments which he/she perceives as negative about the game proceeds with trying to lock the thread.

Yeah, but the thing is I was already posting here before he made that Mass Effect thread. Granted, i'm a non-regular, but the time I posted the questions was pretty close to the creation of this thread. Plus, if I wanted to make multiple accounts, i'd use a proxy. 

I didn't say to lock the thread anyway, that is Lore's idea. But yes, the similarities should be pointed out between the game, since he did post it at a star control forum.
12  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: Mass Effect. on: November 14, 2006, 05:13:58 pm
Except for Shiver, who seems to say that an SC2 rip-off is good.

Um, then he says "Oh, it's ripping off star control 3???"

By the way, the game's influences don't seem to be star control at all, they cite examples like "Blade Runner, and Aliens." Now, we can all say they are ripping off the eternal ones, but even if they were, that doesn't necessarily make it bad. Oh well. i'm still excited about this game regardless.
13  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: Mass Effect. on: November 14, 2006, 04:56:12 pm
We are not the same person, we simply use the same computer. Times like this remind me of the necessity of proxies...
14  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: Mass Effect. on: November 13, 2006, 07:48:48 pm
Quote from: Lukipela
Sarcasm is very badly conveyed in a text-only medium, so don't feel bad about it. Or are you being sarcastic? Wink

Nah, I wasn't being sarcastic...now, ARE YOU BEING sarcastic there...oh the never ending paradox! Haha. But yeah, Lore should have added more info to the thread, but he linked to the wiki, so that's enough info now to get the basic jist of mass effect.
15  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: Mass Effect. on: November 13, 2006, 07:20:59 pm
Since I didn't see any discussions about it here, bottom point, what do you think of Biowares latest project, Mass Effect?

I am very very excited for Mass Effect. The whole exploring uncharted regions of space reminds me a lot of SC2.
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