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The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Check this S**T out!
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on: November 20, 2006, 03:23:56 am
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These pictures are what I saw in a magazine a while back (I think Computer Graphics World - but I have no idea of the date or issue). I mentioned it in my thread about the "Flagship Schematic". Pretty good pictures, I'm going to drop them a line to see if they have higher resolution versions available. George Barr has some slightly higher resolution versions of the paintings he did for the aliens and cut scenes on his site at http://www.well-of-dreams.com/thingamajig/. I'm late to the party too - recreation of ships in Star Control II seems to have peaked several years ago, and SC3D seems to be the biggest remnant of it. (Unlike, say, the B5 modeling community, which seems to still exist.)
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The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Flagship schematic
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on: November 17, 2006, 02:05:53 am
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Thanks, fossil. I've been considering a 3DO version of SCII off of eBay just for that purpose. The Pages of Now and Forever have a copy too, once you fix the download URL. I think it was pictures from those rendered movies that I saw in the magazine that I misplaced. The in game sprites, paintings, and the manual all seem to disagree about various design aspects. It's just a matter of which details can be reconciled, I think. It's the cross sectional shape of the pods, the amount that the thrusters protrude, the geometry of the nose and the way the rails blend into the pods that is bothering me right now. Here's the latest picture of my attempt: http://www.flickr.com/photos/47422059@N00/295452094/I saw Danny Santos's UQM commercial with his flagship in it, and it looks pretty good - it is true to the paintings and seems to take elements from SC3 as well. I've asked him for it, perhaps he'll give it to me.  As an aside, does the 3DO version have other rendered movies in it? I heard someone complain about the "ship spins" in it, but the intro model seems faithful to the depictions of the ship in the manual, so I'm not sure where that criticism comes from.
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The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Flagship schematic
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on: November 12, 2006, 06:07:38 pm
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I've got some Wings3D files that I did a lot of measuring for if you'd like to compare/contrast.
Can I take you up on this? There some contradictions between the two views in the outfitting screen (and of course between that and the pictures in the intro/end). Right now, top-down, mine is almost pixel identical with the picture Michael provided above, but it doesn't seem quite right. Plus, I'm not sure how to model the cockpit or the struts - some of that is unfamiliarity with my tools, but some is genuine confusion about what it should be.
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The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Flagship schematic
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on: October 30, 2006, 02:32:01 pm
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Is it possible you'll have some low polygon-count versions when you're done?
I'll try. SolidWorks has controls for the resolution on STL files (which are no more than triangles), so I might be able to get it pretty low but still usable for others. The important part is just getting it done, that's all.  It's not like making Babylon 5 ships, where you have a lot of high resolution reference material. Plus, some of the material does contradict itself, like the schematic above and the mini-pictures when you buy turning jets and thrusters. (Not to mention the painted versions of the ship...)
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The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Flagship schematic
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on: October 27, 2006, 12:33:33 am
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I'm working on creating a 3D model of the Flagship, and am interested in the origin of the green-on-black schematic that is used in the UQM setup screen. Based on the zoom in two of the pages, it looks like the original is either a vector or a high resolution graphic. Right now, I'm trying to get my proportions correct based on the graphics in the star base when you're outfitting the ship. If the schematic used in the menus is official, a large copy of it (and a copy of the side view, if available) would be very useful to me.
As an aside, has anyone seen a copy of a 3D modeling or rendering magazine from 96/97/98 with the flagship on the front of it? I got a copy back in the day when I ran my own fan website, but I don't think I ever posted it on the web (being conscientious of copyright law). It has been a while since I saw my own copy... it appears to be AWOL. Perhaps one of you has seen it or has it? The article that featured the ship also had the escape pod and the Sa-Matra, I believe.
Share and Enjoy!
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