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1  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Arilou and the Orz: What's the Deal? *spoilers on: February 03, 2003, 12:03:36 pm
Very interesting theories regarding the Orz! I particularly like the idea of their language being strings of thought picked up by your translatin computer.

I was wondering... this might be a bit strange for this discussion, but how do you people think that the Androsynth vanished? Like, I know the theories of why they vanished, but I want to hear peoples' takes on how it happened. In what manner did the Androsynth die, or get assimilated, or vanish? The lack of bodies on their homeworld seems to be evidence pointing to a method other than killing.

What do you guys think?
2  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Arilou and the Orz: What's the Deal? *spoilers on: January 16, 2003, 11:13:30 am
The Ariloulaleelay and the Orz share only one "official" connection: from the context of their speech and patterns (and from the game SCII itself), it is clear that the Arilou and the Orz are both from a different type of reality/time/space/whatever than we are as humans. Though, yes, they do both seem kind of like parasites when you take certain things in the game into account...

By the way, I'd like to thank everyone who's posted on this thread; I never thought it'd grow to be this large, or that more than three people or so would give their tuppence. Thank you so much, everyone!
3  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Arilou and the Orz: What's the Deal? *spoilers on: December 11, 2002, 10:35:39 am
So many theories! Thank you everyone for posting! I started this thread with hope that more than three or so people would give input, but now there are so many replies... it's just so interesting to see everyone's take on this topic!

I hope this doesn't shift the overall topic, but I think this ties in to it:

Is it just me, or do the Orz seem rather juvenile and advanced in their conversations at the same time? I mean, they get VERY angry if you simply mention the Androsynth... their lingual "best fits" sometimes seem rather purposefully humorous ("*Jumping Peppers*!! It is *smiley* time!!")... hell, they even try to make jokes with you sometimes!

I sometimes get the impression (regarding the latter example) that the Orz are trying to "fit in" as a "typical" alien race that inhabits what they call *heavy space*. Obviously, they are not "typical" in most senses, as reflected by their complex language and how they only speak in present tense. But the Orz go out of their way to make an alliance with you, supply you with plenty of ship plans, and attempt to make casual jokes ("Yes, we do! Hello! I am only joke. It is funny enough! Don't forget to *enjoy the sauce*!!") with you to lighten the situation of their strangeness.

This is just my take on it... if you have any concurrences or differences, please post away!

And I must ask two more questions, one of which I asked earlier with no answer, but it is okay if you're too focused on the primary issue to answer them. Here they are:

1) If the Orz are projections of a different-dimensioned being/entity/species, why did they/it choose the physical form of fish-like creatures that breathe from a liquid ethanol solution?

2) On a lighter and perhaprs sillier note, what do you think the meaning of *enjoy the sauce* is?

Thank you so much everyone for contributing!
4  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Arilou and the Orz: What's the Deal? *spoilers on: December 10, 2002, 05:22:52 am
Wow! I didn't expect so many replies to this thread.. thank you, everyone!

Everyone had very interesting theories. I am interested to see how the latest one, how the Orz and Eternal1's are not related. In SCIII, it seemed like they were somehow related, but there might be evidence against it.

Oh another note, does anyone know what *parties* in the *middle* mean? Or why, if the Orz are projections from another reality, do Orz have a fish-like physique and breathe ethanol through gills?

Keep this topic alive, people! Thank you everyone again for submitting so many replies!
5  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Arilou and the Orz: What's the Deal? *spoilers* on: December 08, 2002, 12:41:54 pm
I haven't found a similar thread dealng with this topic specifically, so here goes.

I'm trying to find out EXACTLY what the deal with the Arilou and the Orz are. Of course, I've played SCIII, but even then they keep the motives of the Orz a little ambiguous. Plus, I think there' smore to it than what's said in that game. Specifically, can ANY of you people give me your take on several aspects of those two races:

1) "Arilou are from *above*. Orz are from *below*." What the hell is this supposed to mean?

2) "We seek to trap *Nggn*, but they dart and leap. YOU cannot catch *Nggn*, do not even try. I don't think you are quite solid enough." What the hell is this supposed to mean?

3) Can anyone make a good translation of the Orz language, of the best terms to use for the terms in their lingual best-fits?

4) What ARE the Orz? The way they talk, it seems like they are actually one single entity that somehow projects multiple selves in our dimension ("I am Orz. I am one with many *fingers* My *fingers* spread into *heavy space*, etc. etc.). And what the hell DID they do with the Androsynth?

5) On the topic of Orz language, what do you think they mean when they say that the Taalo are playing *time tricks* on them in *pretty space*?

6) What does it mean when the Orz say that the Arilou are always *jumping in front*?

7) Again, what DID happen to the Androsynth? Why did they look up information about ghosts and poltergiests on their computers when recearching dimensional fatigue?

If any of you people have any take on these questions, or have any official information... please let me know! These questions have been bothering me for YEARS!

Thanks a bunch!
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