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1  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: cheats on: December 12, 2002, 10:56:24 pm
Okay, I hate resourse collecting too, but don't resort to cheating. All ya got to do is take a spathi ship (Fwiffo, most likely) into VUX space and slaughter them with it. You'll get $$ hand over fist for blowing them up and it doesn't take that much skill to defeat an Intruder with an Eluder.
2  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: melnorme on: December 12, 2002, 10:51:06 pm
The Melnorme are awesome, how could you hate them? They are shrewd business people and it's not like they extort you or something. If you're out of fuel they'll come and give you a special deal which is FAIR. They don't screw you, the stuff they take is worth that amount of ResUnits anyway, so quit complaining. Swallow your pride, buy that damn fuel so you can be on your way home and quiting biting at the hand that feeds ya. Maybe after this you'll learn not to run out of fuel when you've got no credits, eh? </rant>

Also, I like to think that the Melnorme are the Mael-Num, but I'd like to see some more evidence somehow. I've been trying to find the connections between them for years, does anyone have any additional insight into this?
3  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Arilou and the Orz: What's the Deal? *spoilers on: December 11, 2002, 12:58:38 am
Another excellent point! Maybe the Arilou anmed them that after the shouts they make when they catch them for brief periods.
4  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Arilou and the Orz: What's the Deal? *spoilers on: December 11, 2002, 12:32:43 am
First of all, the Orz didn't want to wipe out humans, just kill you because they got worried. How else do you explain them attacking you at such a time? Also, I could be dead wrong, but perhaps TFB had basic plot idea involving the eternal1s and even if they didn't the game was decent. It's just looked at poorly because it had so much to live up to and was only good instead of great. I have a somewhat unique perspective in this because with the exception of some hazy memories of time long gone, I played SCIII first. If TFB makes another sequel it should not ignore SCIII. They should just make the next one as good as the second and leave the third one be because it was still worth playing and finishing, and I've played through it about as many times as I have with SCII (I've lost count).
5  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Arilou and the Orz: What's the Deal? *spoilers on: December 11, 2002, 12:18:53 am
Oh, and about the Orz not being about to smell you, he means that you don't know too much so he isn't going to kill you or feed you to the Eternal1s early or whatever they did to the Androsynth and Supox
6  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Arilou and the Orz: What's the Deal? *spoilers on: December 11, 2002, 12:14:00 am
How couldn't you believe the Orz/Eternal1 link?! The orz come and attack you with a big fleet days before the heralds arrive talking about... I forget, but that's not the point. Why else would they attack you. And I'm not relying solely on the daks for the scoop on the Taalo. The Orz are clearly the summoning devices and they talk of the taalo often as well.

And I know that the Arilou also call the Orz "Orz". They call them Orz when they want you to know what they are talking about but the *Nggh* is probably some other name for them. Also, tfb wanted to make the Orz creepier by doing things such as freaking out or something when you take them into Quaasi-Space. Maybe because that's where the Arilou take them when they catch them for the moments to study them or something. Finally, the Arilou say that you aren't solid enough to touch the *Nggh* and in SCIII the Orz say something about being more *solid* than you. It all fits.
7  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Make Money Fast From Home! on: December 10, 2002, 07:51:51 pm
I know that you know that it's a glitch, I'm just giving a better alternative, thats all.
8  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Arilou and the Orz: What's the Deal? *spoilers on: December 10, 2002, 07:45:31 pm
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We all know what happened in SCIII and that is the point. The writers from SCIII made up nonsense from their little understanding of SCII. For example:

In SCII the Arilou say that after the Ur-Quan slave-shielded Humans the Arilou realized we were safe, so they left the 3 remaining races to face the Ur-Quan along (the Syreen, Shofixti, and the Yehat). Yet in SCIII they suggest that the Arilou created the Syreen. Now tell me why the Arilou wouldn't protect the Syreen, like they did with us? Why they didn't watch over their starbase? Why they didn't appear, to them, when they spent 75 years endlessly wandering around in space? Sure you could say that they didn't need their DNA to stay alive and so didn't care about them. But, that too is another messed up plot. In SCII the Arilou say they MODIFIED our DNA and changed our *smell* to protect us from those who seek to harm us. Modified meaning changing, not creating. So, if what SCIII said were to be true, the Arilou flat out lied in SCII. Yet, how do you explain changing our *smell.* According to the Orz we are not in for the same fate as the Androsynth because we have are different. And, according to common sense, the only way we could be different is that we were not able to see what the Arilou did to our DNA. So, when we copied our DNA, and made the Androsynth, their DNA was the same as ours was before the Arilou came along.

That is just one of the many ruined plots of SCIII, so when people, in this forum, ask a question about something having to do with cliff-hangers from SCII they tend to want to know what everyone thinks TFB had in mind and not the writers of SCIII.



When did they hint that the Arilou created the Syreen? Maybe they did, but if so, then they must have decided that because 99% of thier race was dead, there was no point in protecting the rest. Also, they DID lie about modifying us to protect us. That was their excuse but the real reason was for the DNA. And the reason they didn't evolve was because of Quasi-Space, and that's what I meant. Quasi-Space apparently is diffirent from True-Space enough so that they couldn't evolve properly.

And to those who think the Taalo were alive, they aren't. They were supposed to watch all the other races up to the point that the galaxy had reached its zenith in sentience, and then summon the Eternal1s to come and harvest them all. The taalo were killed, so the Orz took thier place. The *nggh* are likely the Orz, and they trap them to learn about them to find a way to defeat the Eternal1s but let them go, probably before they call the Eternal1s for help or something. It's not hard to piece together. The Orz join you so quick because they want to stop the Kohr-Ah from killing all the sentients and thus wasting the Eternal1s food.
9  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / People, people, you all are ofrgetting something!! on: December 10, 2002, 01:00:48 am
Before you ever post asking how to complete a certain part of the game, remember, the help you seek can be found in the game and you'll still be able to say you beat it on your own: the Melnorme! If yer stuck, buy info from them, their info is very explicit and can guide you right through the ggame. By the way, don't be cheap by reloading after buying the info!
10  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Stuck on the Mycon (spoilerz) on: December 10, 2002, 12:41:22 am
you have to go to where the mycon "deep children" are. take the device there and you'll have to use it at a certain place, but I won't ruin the game for ya by telling you exactly what to do with it.... play on, mate!

by the way, if you want a hint of how to use the device, highlight below:
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11  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: MAKE MONEY FAST FROM HOME! on: December 10, 2002, 12:38:17 am
Here's a better way (better because it doesn't involve taking advantage of glitches): acquire the Burvixese caster and then buy as many Hi-Ef fuel tanks as u can, and then go to the Druuge and trade them the caster for a fill-up. You'll have the Umgah caster to use anyway, and you can also ruin the life of a druuge and at the same time be able to say you completed the game without cheats! It'll still make you rich.
12  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / General UQM Discussion / Re: Arilou and the Orz: What's the Deal? *spoilers on: December 10, 2002, 12:19:01 am
Okay, this was all explained in Star Conrol 3. For those who played it, fo you remember the Dak Tak Lak Pak saying that the Chengesu were Eternal1 summoning devices? They said that the Taalo were the real ones, and said that the Chengesu were a backup. The Chengesu part was a lie, but the Taalo probably WERE the summoning device. Regardless, the Orz are the backup, so they are evil. The Androsynth were finding out too much about the whole Eternal1 thing, and when they discovered the true name of the Eternal1's, the Eternal1's "smelled" them, and sent the Orz over there to remove them (they were probably consumed by the Eternal1's). I've been working on and Orz-English dictionary that I can piece together, and when it's done, I'll post it.

As for the Arilou, they have ulterior motives of thier own: when they became aware of the impending arrival of the Eternal1's, they fled into a newly discovered dimension: Quasi-Space. In Quasi-Space they were safe from the Eternal1 harvest, and could live out peaceful lives. However, there race was unable to adapt to the harch life in Quasi-Space and they started to die genetically. They would suffer mutations and things of that sort until they will eventually become extinct. To prevent this, they looked all over the galaxy for another race they could "borrow" genes from and use as genetic cattle, and the best fit they could find was humans, of course. They intend to use Earthlings to keep their own race alive for as long as posible. When the Arilou say that they are from *above*, they refer to Quasi-Space, while the Orz are from *below*, which is the realm of the Eternal1's. They try to trap te *Nnnngh* or whatever... this is the toughest part to truly understand. I believe that the *Nnngh* are some creation of the Eternal1 race, or are Eternal1's themselves. After all, the sooner they can stop them, the sooner the Arilou can return to True-Space. I hope this clears most of it up.
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