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1  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: Sadomasochism (sadistic people) on: May 18, 2009, 11:41:58 am
Just to make things clear, I was wrong when I said I'm a switch, and I also have to mention that there's no such thing as a sadistic/masochistic trance. I am a masochist however, at least that is true. Lemme explain...

FROM A MAIL SENT TO LUKIPELA:
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Hey, where did you go? BEL and Adventures really miss you....
 
Luki

I've been at the hospital. I had a neuro-psychiatric disorder involving a chemical imbalance between something called "chemical mediators" or some such, and I had an acute psychotic episode due to this (the disorder was making me very susceptible to suggestions from other people, and even from myself). Combined with Asperger (the lack of social cognition implied by Asperger, with which I've also been recently diagnosed), I think this was the cause for which I was so antisocial on the forums a while ago (people were saying I'm an obnoxious poster, so I actually started acting like one).

Unfortunately, one of the false ideas caused by the chemical imbalance I was talking about earlier is that I'm interested in posting on the SCDB or on the UQMF, so you won't hear anymore from me. Sorry.

P.S. Regarding the sadomasochism thread, the information I gave in that post (the things about the sadistic trance and such) was also false and caused by this chemical imbalance.

Fare thee well,
[NAME OBSCURED TO MORTALS].

Confused? I'm Valaggar! That's what I meant when I wrote about how antisocial I was on these forums some time ago. Farewell to all of you now... I eagerly expect TFB's new game, and a sequel to Star Control, but I don't think I want to post here anymore.

Oh, and let me cross out the false things in my former post in this thread. I'll keep the true things though.
2  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: Sadomasochism (sadistic people) on: May 01, 2009, 07:56:49 am
I might be misinterpreting you, but you don't seem to have much of an idea what sadomasochism actually is. I'm not really sure on this, I think there might exist a disorder that makes you like inflicting pain/humiliation on other persons in a non-sexual context, but I don't know much about that and don't think you want us to talk about that (it's not like it's the only disorder that makes you harm others). No one would associate a disorder with being evil, anyway.

As for the more-often-encountered form of sadomasochism, the sexual form (which requires having your appetite roused by the person you're doing it with), which is the one you're probably talking about, well that's not evil. Masochism is just another way of having fun without hurting anyone, and sadists don't really feel good inflicting their sadism on non-masochistic individuals (who don't get aroused, and thus the sadist feels pity instead of arousal emit certain pheromones that signal their masochism).

EDIT: Of course, even sexual sadists might hurt someone if their limits are high enough. Normally they'd be able to stop themselves, but then they might not resist the temptation. That, and if you're really, really sexually frustrated you can actually enter a "sadistic trance" if your sadistic appetite is roused by a situation. Like that time when I brought a knife to school (intending only to scare one of the teachers with it -- of course I shouldn't have brought the knife, but it was an immaturity thing due to my social anxiety, I actually thought she'd forgive me if I just waved the knife a little while sitting at my desk, and then put it back in my bag, and she might actually have forgiven me for that, the way I know her, if I had done only that). One of the girls I like was sitting behind me, and I couldn't manage to stop dominating her (I actually even cut her with the knife and enjoyed it, though that turned out to be above her limits). I attempted to start dominating other girls in the class as well (only those I liked though), but stopped at once doing it to those that didn't enjoy it (yeah, the one sitting behind me was masochistic too, and it was only then that she found out). I even dominated a girl I didn't physically like, but who roused me because she was masochistic too (well she was an alternating switch, but she was in a masochistic mood at the time).

There is such a thing as a masochistic trance as well, and it's more similar to being hypnotized. I underwent that as well, being a switch myself -- I was in such a submissive state that I even almost threw myself out through the window when I misinterpreted a command I received (I mean I misinterpreted it to mean "throw yourself through the window"). But I digress.

And I'm a masochist, not a switch. And switches always alternate, they can't be both sadistic and masochistic at the same time.
3  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: SC:BEL Mission 1 on: April 28, 2009, 04:02:14 pm
Bach moves S and searches through the bookcases, then he moves N W W and searches through the bookcases as well.
4  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: SC:BEL Mission 1 on: April 26, 2009, 09:27:31 pm
Bach moves N W W W, intending to search through the bookcase.
5  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: SC:BEL Mission 1 on: April 25, 2009, 10:18:53 pm
Hey Son, whaddaya think, should you retreat now with the others and let me face the Warrior by myself (thus gaining a level) or not?
6  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: SC:BEL Mission 1 on: April 22, 2009, 08:21:46 pm
I'm moving W W W S.

I think Sukuzu shouldn't have equipped the Table Shield, all he can manage now (due to the loss of MOV) is 6 strikes, so he only has a ~50% chance of killing the Warrior.
7  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: SC:BEL Mission 1 on: April 18, 2009, 11:45:02 am
I move N N N W, not that I'll arrive in time. (By the way, it looks like I haven't had the time, or the patience, to make IC posts lately)

As for what to do with the Warrior, let's just ignore him for now and explore the western room. Since Bach needs only 1 more XP to level up, we might want to let Bach duke it out by himself with the Warrior (he'll get really wounded, but he'll heal once he kills the Ilwrath; he'll need a little help at first though, somebody needs to wound the Warrior a little before that though).
8  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: SC:BEL Mission 1 on: April 17, 2009, 10:56:56 am
The Warrior can't see Sukuzu if he uses all his MOV to race towards him (if Wubula opens the door), but see below.

If he's heading somewhere at all, it's either the main door, the Androsynth's sleeping quarters or the torture chamber. I think Sukuzu can reach him more quickly through the sleeping quarters (if somebody opens the second door for him), so I suggest doing that. Wubula and Wawa can go through the western door, just to ensure he can't return to his guardpost (or worse, open the blue door).

Summary: S S S S
9  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: SC:BEL Mission 1 on: April 16, 2009, 11:06:24 am
Summary: throw grenade at Apprentice, then move N E

OOC: I expose myself to 1 strike if the Slayer acts like a grenade, but I'd rather be able to attack with both AP.

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That's not how it works. From the rules:

I think we may need some clarification here. Luki?
EDIT: Wait, I don't get your reasoning. Luki said earlier that that rule is slightly badly phrased, and that it actually means that moving half your MOV or more (but not the full amount) takes 1 AP. So moving 5 squares takes 1 AP for Sukuzu. I'm interpreting movement to count with respect to the total number of squares you move in one turn (which is 5 in this case), so he can retreat to that square.
10  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: SC:BEL Mission 1 on: April 15, 2009, 06:45:12 pm
@meep: I really don't see why you say we'd be wasting the grenade -- remember what I said about not encountering tightly-packed groups? (Which makes sense as they want to minimize losses due to area-of-effect weapons, especially in the case of these trained soldiers) Besides, this is one of those rare occasions where we can kill two enemies with one shot, now that we know the western warrior is the hurt one. We'll also be totally safe the next turn if we have Sukuzu close the door.

So I'm still anxious for Wubula to move out of my way.

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Sukuzu wouldn't even be able to move to the only square which Wubula can retreat to.

How so? That square is the one 2 squares S of Bach; after having moved W, Sukuzu would have to move E E S S to reach it. Moving 5 squares takes 1 AP, meleeing takes 1 AP too, so yes he would be able to retreat there.

EDIT: By the way, Luki, what the frell does a Bonecrusher look like? Is it a giant club or what? Oh, and what does a Slayer look like, by the way? A rocket launcher? Tongue
11  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: SC:BEL Mission 1 on: April 15, 2009, 11:05:46 am
Hm, indeed. It seems the only square he'd be able to retreat to is the square that's the only one Wubula can retreat to. So we have 2 options -- Sukuzu can fire his Handgun instead of using melee (this means we have a 78.3% chance of killing the Apprentice, and a 16.5% chance of just wounding him). Or we can retreat Wubula, and have Bach fire a grenade at the Apprentice, killing him instantly and wounding the Warrior next to him (or even killing him if he's the one with 1 HP left). I'd favor the latter, as it is only rarely that we get to use a grenade on even a group of two enemies, as the history of this game indicates.
12  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: SC:BEL Mission 1 on: April 14, 2009, 08:29:15 pm
I thought the Apprentice had been reduced to 1 HP, hence why I thought I have lots of chances of killing him. Oh well, now that I know he's not wounded, using the calculator that I made, it appears I have a chance of 23% of killing the Apprentice in 3 strikes, and a 68% chance of killing him in 6 strikes. That's hardly enough. Let's maybe have Sukuzu weaken the Apprentice first by moving W, meleeing him (with 1 AP), then retreating somewhere in that rectangle I mentioned earlier. Wubula can then retreat as well, Bach can fire with 1 AP and then retreat, and then if the Apprentice is still not dead we can have Wawa fire his Paingiver at him. We have a 90% chance of killing the Apprentice this turn.
13  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: SC:BEL Mission 1 on: April 14, 2009, 11:50:07 am
Erm... there are two of your teammates standing between Bach and his target.

I know, but I think it's more important that I get the XP. And it fits Bach's character more. Still, it may not be necessary -- see below.

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And Sukuzu can't move three squares, attack, and retreat with "only" 6 movement points.

Right. I had forgotten about not being able to move if you no longer have AP (even if you have MOV left).

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You're right about us not being safe though. The only way to avoid that, as far as I can see, is if everyone shoots only once, and then retreats from the row with the door. And that does mean risking friendly fire.

Er, it seems we can just have everybody retreat somewhere in the rectangle whose upper-left corner is 2 squares S of Bach, and whose lower-right corner is just N of the door -- and we don't need to close the western door of the room. If we go with this plan, we'll also be able to retreat Wubula and Sukuzu before having Bach fire, thus avoiding friendly fire.

Alternatively, Sukuzu can throw a grenade instead of firing his Handgun, and then we can close the door and retreat -- the remaining Warrior won't be able to move 3 squares, open the door and shoot. But we don't know whether the southern Warrior is the non-wounded one (if he's the non-wounded one, throwing the grenade at him would ensure the maximum damage output, otherwise we're wasting the 2 points of damage in the center of the grenade's explosion), and I'd rather have Bach get the XP (Sukuzu is way ahead of Bach, so Bach has more use of it).
14  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: SC:BEL Mission 1 on: April 13, 2009, 10:11:50 pm
Summary: Bach fires W until the Ilwrath is dead, and keeps any remaining AP in reserve (do this after Wubula and Sukuzu retreat from the door if they decide to do so; if they don't, fire anyway) not yet

A slight improvement to meep's plan: Sukuzu should go W W S and use his melee attack, that one has more strikes.

Also, we aren't going to be completely safe from the Warrior next turn, moving 2 squares costs him no AP so he's still going to be able to attack us with 3 strikes after opening the door. Still, I suppose that's not really that much, and doesn't warrant the use of Confusion.

However, I'm not completely going along with this plan because I want the XP. Sorry. I'm attacking the Apprentice in Wubula's stead, and she's closing the door.
15  The Ur-Quan Masters Re-Release / Starbase Café / Re: SC:BEL Mission 1 on: April 13, 2009, 10:16:54 am
And after all these moves are done, Bach moves S.
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