And once again D_999 beats me to the point, and with a bundle of good links as well.

Just try and remember, noone is saying that this is solely the Israelis fault. We're just pointing out that all of the blame can't be laid at the feet of the Palestinians. In my eyes, both sides have tarnished themselves in this conflict, and noone can really claim moral high ground. And the only real chance for peace is that both sides can stand down from this, and really TRY for peace.

Nobody is justifying our goverment,

but remember this:

* Israeli soldiers are kids who just finished school.
THEY HAVE TO go to the army- in 2 years I'll have to go as well.
If you refuse to your order, you'll go to jail.

And belive me- I really don't feel like going around in all those refugee camps shooting and threating people.


* When Israel hurts civilians, it doesn't do it on purpuse, we do it because the terrorists hide behind the women and children.

The terrorists on the other hand- are now planning to bomb an entire high-school, knowing that everybody there are only kids.



Sure- both sides are hurt, but the Palastiniens are blood-lusted (most of them support the terror organizations), just like our PM and Arafat, both of them feel they have nothing to lose.


And again- it's us, the kids- who have to get it on their head..  

I want to leave in silence, thats all. Had enough of this political shit. You can blame only 1 man for the situation today: Igal Amir.

I agree,

that bitch changed the history.

If it wasn't him - then both Israel and Palastine would have been living happily now- for 8 years.

And as for the fight over the land: DJ said it generally but it's much more complicated then you think.
Some of the lands belong to Syria- we captured them after they attacked us (and that's the only thing that proctects us from them).

The rest of the land was given to us when Israel was born.
In the begining it was divided between us and the Arabes - but they wanted the entire land, (might sound weird, but it's true, check the history books), and after they began a war against us, we captured their land, and some other lands (It was Israel VS 7 countries.. ).
Up till now they tried like 5-6 more times to capture us, and failed.

It was our parents who fought those wars.
In the last decade, we signed for peace with Egypt and Jordan, and were about to sign with Arafat too when our PM was murdered by Igal-Amir.

Since then, we're suffering.



Now- enough with the history, I don't like it very much..
If you find what I just said hard to belive, you're free to check anywhere you want.

lol  

One way to unite people is to give them a common enemy. In Nazi Germany this was the Jews (among others). I suspect that many things said then about the Jews were said to strengthen the view of the Jews as the enemy. And some of these ideas might have stuck around with some people in current days. I personally haven't heard anyone say anything like this about Jews, but that might be explained that the circles I'm in consist of well-educated people who usually try to think for themselves.
Which brings me to what I consider to be the solution to problems like this in the world, which would be to teach people to learn to think for themselves. A problem with this is that it's hard for a goverment to control people who think for themselves, which might explain why in some highly developed countries the level of education is still very bad. (On the other hand, this may just be incompetance of the governments in question.)

Uhh- well, DJ might have only saw it on TV,
but I saw it for real, and they blew the hell out of the mall near my house (DJ do you remember the attack on Dizingof Center?).


If you're asking why and who to blame, well I can tell you that you were right on the first part of your message: some Palastiniens & Israelis are not intrested in peace (e.g. Arafat, Sharon, and terrorists & settelers).


P.s. Sorry about the double post- I'm just trying to raise my post counter.. I'm sick of being some alien's food.  

Well, I remember I heard on the news he gave them large amounts of money for weapons and such. Besides that, I don't think anything else connected to him happened(for example, more terrors attack because saddam is captured).
And it isn't just my home, it is the home of Quarsell too!

P.S No, I wasn't even near a terror-striked place but still seeing it in the News is enough.

Hey pal!
Long time no seen!

The name is Orsquall, or in short- Or.  

I know for a fact that the Palastiniens were close to Sadam, and when he was caught, they were really sad- and they didn't hide it, you could see it in the news.

However- the issue is not about who likes who,
I belive that the most doesn't represent each and every one, and in the online community everybody should get an equal oppretunity.

If not at real life, then at least in the internet.
Up till now 95% of the people I met are really great, they're all awesome, but lately I'v encountered a community who banned me because I'm from Israel, and they blame Israel for  attacking the Palastiniens and making th eUSA attack Iraq..

That's sad- since I really wanted to help them with things, but if that's what they chose to do..  


I'd like to finish with a small story, and tell you, that I, an Israeli - once played a 2vs2 battle in Warcraft, and my random ally was an Iraqi.
Although he didn't really like me, he saved my base twice - and eventually we won, and that's what allying is about.

Also- my cousine founded a clan with an Irani guy, in Counter-Strike, and they were quite sucessfull..

So you see- no matter what you are going to talk about in this topic, always remember that the goverments don't always represent EVERYBODY.

Sorry I'm not going straight with the topic, I just had to offload all that.  


Oh- and DJ, I know I'm sometimes away for long, but I'm visiting from time to time.
Sorry about that.

Now THAT is a kewl ending!!!  


Thank you SO much!

Uhh- already done.  


I just finished the game- so I got the answer I guess.. ^_^

But what happened to the Captain and the crew?
Did they die when they bombed the Sa-Matra?


Thx.

The stupid birds wanna rejoin the Yehat every five seconds!

My options are over- I stopped em' too many times,
now I only have 'Suit Youself'.

Whenever I let them go they dissapear from the starmap..

I know they have no further use, but it's sad that they have to die like that...


Can't I do something about it?

lol- congratulations pal.  

DJ - I think I know what's your problem is..

You godda move on- I know your Pc preety much sucks in your opinion, but it still doesn't mean that there are other games around.

You can't expect to play SC all day and still enjoy it do you?

Do what I do- I play other games (e.g. the Final Fantasy series), and sometimes when I quit to windows I find the UQM icon- click on it- play a little, and move on.

Sometimes if I feel like it I play the Full Game for a longer time.

Anyways- either you should do that,
or you can always join www.neopets.com and play with me..  
( Please don't flame me!!!!!!!  )

lol- DJ- I like it.  

Hump- if you ever do a multiplayer- please insert a 8 players super meele- will ya?  

Why- isn't TW balanced enough?  


The idea of 8 ships in a super meele sounds kewl!

You can do 4vs4 or something!  

Okie Dokie- thx... Jiffa...  

The main problem against a human player is that when my brother uses his "special" attack- I can't use mine.

It's an input problem.

That's the main fuck.

Is there any way to fix that?

You mean KALI?