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Re: Whats the deal with the Androsynth?(spoilers)
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2003, 08:30:09 pm »

since they say *juicy* a lot, they could have eaten the androsynth
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Re: Whats the deal with the Androsynth?(spoilers)
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2003, 11:40:48 pm »

They also *squeeze* *juice* too...

I seem to recall that the Androsynth were taken over by ground troops only, with no evidence of orbital bombardment. If all the Androsynth were at the homeworld (which seems like a rare and somewhat stupid occurance from a defensive perpsective), none of them (presumably) would be able to get to ships to defend themselves. There's a likelyhood that the Orz sent a LARGE amount of Marines to all the spaceports and kept them from entering thier ships. Or it's entirely possible that the Androsynth were too spooked out by the spectral whatevers they were dealing with to notice they were being attacked and taken away.

I imagine if the Orz *danced* with the Androsynth instead of *pulling* them to wherever, the result of the conflict would have been much different.

Basically, the Androsynth were caught with their guard down and (probably) payed a great price because of it.
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Re: Whats the deal with the Androsynth?(spoilers)
« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2003, 01:18:32 pm »

I dunno, I just can't see the Orz as being the great evil thing that the Androsynth got all scared about and made them do research on ghosts and poltergeists.  Even if the Orz are just *fingers* they seem to nice to be *nngn*.  Maybe when the Andro were experementing with DF, the Orz also caught the scent of the Andro along with *nngn*, but decided to stick around after *nngn* did thier business and left.  For some odd reason I can't help but think that they are a red herring made by the developers to lead us away to the true *nngn*  But then again maybe I've been blinded by my fondness for the Orz and thier ships.  (Ok, so that's a lie, it's just the ships:))
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Re: Whats the deal with the Androsynth?(spoilers)
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2003, 06:07:42 pm »

An odd thing: I was reading over the sc2 story section on the Pages of Now and Forever and I noticed something: Unnervalt is in Androsinth space. Well it says Berton sent her ship back to earth when the Ur-Quan headed her way right? And the ship never came back? Well it says that when they left Unnervalt in the Precurser ship they found Burton's ship, the Tobermoon, adrift in the ort cloud with almost NO damage and, get this, NO CREW ON BOARD. So are you shure the nngn just went after the Androsinth homeworld?
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Re: Whats the deal with the Androsynth?(spoilers)
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2003, 07:44:20 pm »

Wow, you're right!
That reminds me -- IIRC, in SC2 for the PC you start the game with 2 cruisers; in UQM you start with 1.
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« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2003, 07:55:42 pm »

No, in both games you start with 1 earthling ship. I have them both.
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Re: Whats the deal with the Androsynth?(spoilers)
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2003, 08:07:27 pm »

The SC2 section? What's that? is it an official part of the story, or an added thing by fans?
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« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2003, 09:25:25 pm »

It's straight from the SC2 manual.  I never thought about it.  The manual was written in such a way to make you think that the crew was taken prisoner, and that maybe one of the probes was responsible (one attacked later).  Maybe the Tobermoon met the Orz, and repeatedly asked about the Androsynth.
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« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2003, 10:18:36 pm »

I'm pretty sure the Tobermoon in the SC2 manual stated that it was clearly attack and damaged by a probe but, that it's not clear itself even because. Don't probes just breakdown ships for raw matreals for reproduction? Why was the Tobermoon still standing then? Anyways that part of the story suppose to explain why you start with a earthing cruiser in the begining of Star Control 2.
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« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2003, 10:22:39 pm »

Perhaps the *nngn* spread throughout Androsinth space killing all of the androsinth who where in ships and mistook the Tobermoon for a Androsinth ship. And why does everyone think the Orz are responsible for this? The ghost / energy thing the scientest guy encounters down on the Androsinth planet seems to me to be nothing like the Orz...
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« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2003, 10:28:55 pm »

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I'm pretty sure the Tobermoon in the SC2 manual stated that it was clearly attack and damaged by a probe but, that it's not clear itself even because. Don't probes just breakdown ships for raw matreals for reproduction? Why was the Tobermoon still standing then? Anyways that part of the story suppose to explain why you start with a earthing cruiser in the begining of Star Control 2.



The probe attack comes after you find the ship. You just find the Tobermoon adrift with no crew and almost no damage and then the text goes on to speculate from Burtons viewpoint about what had happened to the crew and weather someone had captured them.
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Re: Whats the deal with the Androsynth?(spoilers)
« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2003, 10:43:34 pm »

Did anyone noticed about the orz special ability, the marine troopers? They get into the ship without doing any damage to the ship itself and start killing everyone. Maybe their weapons destroy the bodies of the victims or maybe they eat them :-/
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« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2003, 11:05:31 pm »

Well I guess I skimmed across that part so I probably miss that important detail. If I not mistaken the Tobermoon tried to go back to Earth around the same time when the Androsyth were playing around with IDF. The Tobermoon was also found not far from Vela itself which is about 50-100 hyperspace units away from Androsyths homeworld.  :-/ Maybe Burton encountered the entries responsible for the dissapperence of the Androsyth and Burton fell to being a victim herself. That even leaves a plot hole itself.

Why weren't the colonist at Vela suffer the same fate as Burton? When the Androsyth scienist released the horror that destroyed their whole race. By the entiy making itself known to all the other Androsyth? Maybe because, the Androsyth were just clones all it took was one person to have *smelled* by the enity to cause a chain reaction. Which destroyed the Androsyth, each human have different scent.

That explains why that one lander scienist was the only one affected the creatures and why he did all he could to prevent the creatures from knowning the other humans. Burton and her crew must of been made aware to the creatures while the colonist on Vela were blissful ingroent about the whole incident.
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« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2003, 11:28:45 pm »

Yep that sounds right. About Burton though: she stayed on the planet and sent the ship back under the command of her first officer. Burton was killed in the probe attack on the Tobermoon after you find it adrift and salvage it.
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Re: Whats the deal with the Androsynth?(spoilers)
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2003, 12:24:44 am »

Krogoth, the Androsynth could have also foolishly alerted all other Androsynth to this "IDF threat," thus opening them all up to attack.  The Tobermoon might have interscepted some transmission...
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