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« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2003, 02:23:42 am »

That portal is close to Groombridg (sp)?. Initaly there was supposed to be a super special secret there. Paul and Fred did not get the time to put it in so now theres just a rainbow world there...
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« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2003, 02:50:14 am »

Not that one. The one near groombridge is also near to utwig and supox space so there is a use for it. The one I am talking about is the one who leads you near the buttom right corner. Not near to druuge space, mycon space, yehat space and not even near planets!
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« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2003, 04:39:13 pm »

Oh, there you can find the cloaking artifact, some lone Andorsynth and the BSS (just outside the most sensitive scanners of Spathiwa to search and destroy The Ultimate Evil. (text files have been hidden and coded). Just fly around in bloodred Hyperspace.

But beware!

If you're lurking around too much, you might touch the Keel-Verezy. If this happens, the *NGNN* and Poltergeists will find out about you and cause severe damage to your brains, your body and soul.
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« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2003, 07:18:50 pm »

Not Zelnick's body and soul... YOUR body and soul.
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« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2003, 07:37:03 pm »

That's what I said, didn't I?
I guess, our beloved twin gods of eternal gameplay are just bringing the message of where to find the poltergeists. I ask myself how much money they got for this? Surely not enough!
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« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2003, 07:49:25 pm »

I was just clarifying.
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« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2003, 12:34:20 am »

Speaking of the Poltergeists, it makes one wonder: What do the Orz really look like?

The reports from the surface of Delta Vulpeculae make one wonder:

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---- REPORT FROM SURFACE ----
BUKOWSKI AGAIN, SIR. WE HAVE FOUND ANOTHER RESEARCH INSTITUTE. WELL, THE RUINS OF ONE, ANYWAY. THE COMPUTER HERE'S IN BETTER SHAPE, ALLOWING ME TO LEARN A BIT MORE ABOUT THE ANDROSYNTH'S INVESTIGATION INTO DF, DIMENSIONAL FATIGUE. IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THEIR STUDIES ACTUALLY BEGAN OVER TEN YEARS AGO, AFTER ONE OF THEIR BLAZER VESSELS DISCOVERED SOME PRECURSOR ARTIFACTS IN ALPHA LALANDE. AS FAR AS THEIR SCIENTISTS HERE COULD TELL, THE DEVICES GENERATED DF WAVES WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE USER TO SEE INTO OTHER... WELL, OTHER DIMENSIONS -- REALMS OF EXISTENCE WHICH SHARE POSITION WITH OUR OWN UNIVERSE, BUT HAVE A DIFFERENT... GEE, WHAT SHOULD I CALL IT... REALITY PHASE. ANYWAY, THE ANDROSYNTH HAD HOPED THAT THE DIMENSIONAL FATIGUE TECHNOLOGY CONTAINED IN THE DEVICES WOULD PERMIT THEM TO CREATE NEW, FASTER FORMS OF HYPERDRIVE AND HYPERWAVE. INSTEAD, WHEN THEY BEGAN THEIR EXPERIMENTS, THEY MADE CONTACT WITH SOME KIND OF LIFEFORM ON `THE OTHER SIDE', A CREATURE FROM AN ALIEN DIMENSION.

AGAIN, THE RECORD IS FRAGMENTARY HERE. I SEE REQUESTS TO THE CENTRAL COMPUTER FOR INFORMATION -- DATA ON `REALITY ABERRATIONS', THE `MOSQUITO MANGE' AND, WELL... GHOSTS, POLTERGEISTS, AND OTHER MALEVOLENT, SUPERNATURAL CREATURES. THE REQUESTS GROW MORE URGENT, ALMOST FRANTIC, AND THEN... THE RECORD ENDS.
---- END OF REPORT ----

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---- REPORT FROM SURFACE ----
CAPTAIN, THIS IS ENSIGN HAWTHORNE STANDING IN FOR BUKOWSKI. SIR, BUKOWSKI HAS FOUND SOMETHING, BUT... WELL... IN THE PROCESS HE HAS GONE KIND OF NUTS. WHEN WE FIRST GOT TO THIS DEMOLISHED CITY, BUKOWSKI WENT WILD BECAUSE THE SCIENCE CENTER WAS PRETTY MUCH INTACT. HE LOCKED HIMSELF IN THEIR COMPUTER CONTROL CABIN AND SPENT ABOUT TEN HOURS ALONE IN THERE. WE COULD HEAR HIM MUMBLING TO HIMSELF, THEN HIS SPEECH GOT LOUDER UNTIL HE WAS ALMOST SHOUTING, AND SIR, HE WAS SCARED, DAMN SCARED. WE FINALLY DECIDED THAT WE'D BETTER CHECK UP ON HIM, BUT BUKOWSKI, WOULDN'T LET US INTO THE ROOM. HE SAID THAT NO ONE COULD EVER KNOW WHAT HE HAD LEARNED -- THAT JUST KNOWING WAS ENOUGH TO ALERT `THEM'. HE KEPT TALKING ABOUT `THEM' -- CRAZY STUFF, SIR, ABOUT HOW `THEY' COULD SEE HIM NOW, AND `THEY' WERE MOVING TOWARD HIM. THEN BUKOWSKI STARTED THRASHING AROUND THE ROOM, SCREAMING THAT HE HAD TO DESTROY EVERYTHING BEFORE `THEY' SAW US TOO. HE DID A LOT OF DAMAGE TO THE ANDROSYNTH'S COMPUTER BEFORE WE STOPPED HIM, AND I GUESS HE MUST HAVE HURT HIMSELF IN THE PROCESS. HE'S CUT UP PRETTY BADLY. YOU KNOW, IT'S STRANGE, HE MUST HAVE HURT HIMSELF WORSE THAN I THOUGHT. NOW, WHEN I LOOK AT HIM, IT SEEMS LIKE HE HAS EVEN MORE CUTS THAN JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, AND BOY, IS HE SCREAMING!

BASED ON THE DAMAGE BUKOWSKI WREAKED ON THE CENTRAL COMPUTER, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE WILL FIND ANYTHING MORE DOWN HERE. I THINK WE HAVE LEARNED ALL THAT WE CAN FROM EXPLORING THESE RUINS, AND FRANKLY SIR, WITH ALL OF BUKOWSKI'S RANTING, I'M GETTING A BIT NERVOUS MYSELF. CALL US BACK TO THE SHIP SOON... PLEASE.
---- END OF REPORT ----


Bukowski is seeing ghosts after finding out the Androsynth's DF secrets. This also make the Orz appear. The Orz mention it themselves:
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Here is *bright* and *smooth*. The other place is *hurt* Orz too much tired for keeping together. Other place is **Frumple**. Orz are here now, but almost not yet.
Soon Orz are really here! You are help Orz with *parties*.
Orz looking for you, and find you. So much joy!!
Now *smooth* place all the time, and after now never going back to outside. Never!!


Creepy. They're almost here. They also mention *light reflections*, the visible bits of them that we see. This leads me to believe that the Orz are, at the moment, squeezing their heads through the DF "door", as it were, and eventually, they'll stretch the thing out so their whole selves can fit through.

Also, quoted by the Arilou:

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There are parasites. Creatures who dwell Beyond.
They have names, but you do not know them. They would like to find you but they are blind to your presence... unless you show yourselves.The Androsynth showed themselves, and something noticed them. There are no more Androsynth now. Only Orz.

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Perhaps you know of the Orz. Like us, they are dimensional travellers, but that is where our similarity ends. Do not trust the Orz, my Human Captain. They are dangerous.

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The enemy of your enemy is your friend... at least for a time.


Of course, we trusted them anyway because we needed the firepower.  Tongue

Putting 2 and 2 together: Bukowski saw their whole forms, as well as the Androsynth, explaining their crazy searches in their databases. Since (in SC3, anyway) the Orz went hostile and somehow summoned the Heralds (and eventually the Eternal Ones), it could be assumed that the Orz are a bit more powerful than they show, although they complain quite a bit about their home dimention. SC4 = Stemming the Tide: finding a way to reverse DF and stopping the Orz from fully manifesting (and possibly any more Eternal One attacks!)

I told everyone the Orz are no good! (That's why I kill 'em off in my game  Wink)
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« Reply #37 on: September 06, 2003, 02:16:25 am »

Interestingly when you make the Orz angry their form changes - They become bright red - Which seems to me to be another indication that what one sees is not their true forms. Also angry Orz *GO GO GO*'s are bright orange where as calm (returning) *GO GO GO*'s are green.
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« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2003, 03:06:59 am »

Hmmm. That makes one wonder... if the Orz are non-corporeal, A: why do they die when their ships are hit, B: do they die when their ships are hit, C: are their noncorporeal abilities somewhat related to their massive ability to wreak havoc on enemy ships, and D: what the hell happened to Bukowski?

The reports do mention him getting cut up, which suggests an active presence of the noncorporeal beings (if they ARE the orz, and the orz aren't just some sort of pawns) and if they could appear anywhere, couldn't they have come onto the ship?

Hmmm. The Orz do suck. I never tried being aggressive towards them. How does one "kill 'em off", how is it you say?
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« Reply #39 on: September 06, 2003, 05:34:23 am »

The Orz also don't understand what death means. This is what they say when you threaten to kill them

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Orz is thinking *silly cow* are want to *dance*.
Orz can *dance* very well in between
but not as much fun as *parties*.


This suggests the Orz are physical manifestions of the enity that were involue in the destruction of the Androsynth. Killing their "physical" form
doesn't destroy the Orz since they are just parts of something greater.  Their true form resides elsewhere or simply cannot be perceive unless you become aware of it's existance. This form cannot harm you unless you make yourself aware to it's percense but, you cannot harm it however.

Personally, I think the destruction of the Androsyth's cities were their own doing when the Androsyths when mad and tried to stop the enity. Obivious, it proved to fulite and the syths themselves ether became the physical manifestions of the enity known as Orz or the Syths were simply dragged ether themselves or the Orz to some reality where they are trapped forever unable to return back to their own reality.
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« Reply #40 on: September 09, 2003, 02:03:52 am »

Whoa guys, hijack another thread;  this is the thread where we keep Deep_Jiffa from finding out what's hidden down by the QS portal in the lower right-hand side of the map.  Smiley
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« Reply #41 on: September 09, 2003, 02:41:51 am »

He wouldn't take 'nothing' for an answer, so we're having some fun with the idea...
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« Reply #42 on: September 09, 2003, 02:49:47 am »

Yeah, I know, Death_999.  I was refering to the people who thought this was the Orz/Androsynth thread.  Wink
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« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2003, 03:26:20 am »

Sorry guys.... Anyway I think the Quasi-space portal down by Druage is just there for looks if anything. Interesting enough though, not far from where the portal exits is a white star constallation shaped like a triangle. These systems contain a nice share of resources to mine.
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« Reply #44 on: September 09, 2003, 05:20:15 pm »

Wow, I thought this thread is dead! Who is the smart guy who did it? Oh well I already got an answer, even after the pillow fights, the mark II and the illwrath clocking device which all are microscopic or clocked so I will have to search every pixel of the surface  Grin

By the way the answer is....... (pause to make dramatic effect)..........

Nothing!

So If you want to talk about the androsynth there is a thread for it. I don't know how to put a link so search it.
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