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Help.. am I screwed
« on: July 25, 2003, 06:49:10 am »

Okay, I was just mining Theta Gicels(or something like that) and now i got like 5 Ilwrath holes chasing me!!! it's pretty much on the very startt of the game is there anyway I could reach earth? (or are there any tactics destroying about 10 Ilwrath ships. I already visited Alpha centauri on the start and it has like 9000 RU there, so I got all the thrusters and jets)

I posted a screenshot and resized it, I have only 1 save, and I dont want to start it all over  Sad

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Re: Help.. am I screwed
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2003, 07:18:06 am »

About the only thing I can think of is to try warping out of the encounters(select your main ship and then when the battle starts press ESC).  If there's too many chasing you, though, you may just be screwed.  If you're mining in Giclas, I would imagine that some of the ships chasing you are Pkunk, which would be a relief.

Just out of curiosity, what made you decide to mine in an area swarming with Ilwrath ships?  That's a bad idea, man.   If you like danger THAT much, you may as well go mining in Crateris and Horologii for some REAL fun.  Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2003, 07:18:29 am »

The image is not clear enough,but I think you can escape by going up,you're in the top of the speed limit and maneuverability of the ship,so you have a chance.

If you can't escape you can either fight and kick their ass(try with the Fwiffo ship and the Crusiers first) or better,just kill one iwraith ship and then escape(press ESC key) when you just killed your enemy.In a few seconds you will be out of the battle,with a bit of luck you will make it.
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2003, 09:21:19 am »

The image is the time I warped out of the Theta Giclas system and when you leave a system it takes a few seconds until you can move(the ship is rolling over and resizing)  but I can't move.. the holes coming too fast.
As for the tactic.. well.. the first hole that comes for me contains 4 Ilwrath ships, I destroyed 3 of them with spathi  but it took me DAMN long to do it, of course after a few mistakes by crossing through the fire and crashing in the planet:) I destroyed the last one with the cruiser, but then a pkunk hole.. and then another 3 Ilwrath ships....... and there are 3 more holes chasing me..  and the worst thing is that I can't recrue lil Fwiffo, I just can't move... Sad
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2003, 11:23:44 am »

Go into the content folder and switch ilwrath.shp with vux.shp or umgah.shp which ever you prefer Tongue I'd change to vux because you can pwn them with the cruiser, umgah MAY zip behind and kill you Tongue

Sure it's a bit of cheating but better than starting over eh?
After youre safe again change em back
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2003, 05:33:09 pm »

Are you crazy? ilwrath place is the best for mining!!!! Lots of ru there and the ilwrath ships are so easy to kill with your flag ship!!!!! Just fight with them, they are so easy but the problem is the planet hates me so i always lose many crews "crushing" in it Angry
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2003, 07:55:09 pm »

The trick to avoiding the planet is: most exactly north-south and east-west trajectories will always miss the planet. If you go straight north-south or straight east-west, your chances of running across the planet are vastly diminished.

This means your flagship with one ion cannon should be able to easily take out the Ilwrath, if you just trick them into chasing you straight north-south on a line that does not include the planet (and is preferably decently far from it).

Fire only when your ship is facing the exact middle of the screen (the auto-center then means that the ilwrath ship is on the other side). Note that this is easiest to judge when you are flying north-south or east-west (no surprises there).
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2003, 08:58:50 pm »

I'll admit your support ships aren't the best at fighting Ilwrath, but your task is definately not impossible.  Try practising some matchups against Avengers in the SuperMelee.  I've fought more oncoming ships than that, and with worse odds too!  Haha, I remember one time, this group of Dreadnoughts and Marauders...  well, that's another story altogether.

Just try it out and hey... if you lose, you can just reload your game.  If you don't lose, all the better.  Tongue  You're also not very far in the game (hate to tell ya), so starting over is definately not too damaging to what you've done.
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2003, 12:38:25 am »

Oh and another thing... You can save before you start each fight... that will really help you to avoid starting over.... (Isn't it annoying when you lose in the last fight because you hit a meteor and you fly straight into the avenger ship?!?)
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2003, 03:25:20 am »

Also, in the future -- the spread fire cannon doesn't help against the Ilwrath. Save battery power by leaving it off (admittedly it is good for the Slylandro)
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2003, 07:35:09 am »

Fighting against the sylendro with your flag ship without the trackers is a mistake. You will lose many crew members... Use Fwiffo instead.
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2003, 01:34:00 pm »

If you want to peel out of a star system in a hurry, stay off the auto-pilot (unless you plan on heading "north").  Why?  When you leave a system and pop up into hyperspace, you will see this little animation of your ship spinning round and round (counter-clockwise, I believe).  At the end of the animation, your ship will be facing north.  Then, once this animation is complete, the auto-pilot will kick in and continue rotating your ship counter-clockwise until it is pointing toward your destination.  When you have full turning jets it might seem like one fluid animation, but it is actually made of these two steps.

What this means is that, if you have set the auto-pilot to send you northwest (in this case, to Sol), your ship will rotate an extra 7/8th of a revolution before you go anywhere.  During this time, you are a sitting duck for an interception.  Instead, put it on manual, and hold down the accelerator as you leave the system.  When you pop up into hyperspace, you will asap jet to the north, which also happens to be away from that little bubble on your picture.  After you have put some distance between you and the bubble, manually steer to the northeast (not all at once), then switch to auto-pilot.  Bottom-line: manual navigation is in the game for a reason.  Use it.
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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2003, 04:47:54 pm »

I thought the mothership came out facing the direction you were facing inside the starsystem when you left it? So if you go out facing south, you'll face south in HS as well. Can't prove it though, as I haven't got UQM on this machine... Confirm anyone?
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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2003, 10:13:06 pm »

Either way, the direction you leave the system is not gauranteed to be the direction you need to be facing in hyperspace.
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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2003, 02:40:35 am »

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I thought the mothership came out facing the direction you were facing inside the starsystem when you left it? So if you go out facing south, you'll face south in HS as well. Can't prove it though, as I haven't got UQM on this machine... Confirm anyone?

This is entirely true.  I don't know how many times I would rotate my ship while cruising to leave a start system in order to orient myself in the right direction towards the next star.  I thought everyone took advantage of that.  I definately did.  My best advice when leaving a star system and you know enemies will soon swarm is to just accelerate as quickly as possible.  It doesn't matter which direction you're going until you're far enough away.

The worst incident had to be in Yehat space for me, where I had no clue which of the ten ships around me were friendly or not...  I just zipped ahead as fast as I could, bobbing in between black dots as fast as I could until I was out in the clear.  Oooo, I love doing that.   Grin
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