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Umgah Caster and Burvix Caster?
« on: July 29, 2003, 01:02:25 am »

Is there any difference between these devices? Because they seem to do the same,they're just casters...
Or did the guys of Bob toys put the Burvix caster in case you couldn't get the Umgah Caster from the Spathi?
Well if you don't ally with them so they won't give you the caster,and you need the caster not only to call the Chmmr,it's a very useful device.
What ya think?
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Re: Umgah Caster and Burvix Caster?
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2003, 01:18:46 am »

According to the source, they are 100% identical to each other in function.  Your notion that it's a "Plan B" 'caster in case you piss off the Spathi is as good as any that I've ever heard.
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Re: Umgah Caster and Burvix Caster?
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2003, 01:19:43 am »

The only differences are:
the origin
the name
the image
you can't sell the Umgah caster to the Druuge.
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Re: Umgah Caster and Burvix Caster?
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2003, 04:23:28 am »

Oh,thought you couldn't sell the Burvix Caster to the Druuge.Hmm okay gonna check that later.
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Re: Umgah Caster and Burvix Caster?
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2003, 11:48:07 am »

Who were the burvixes andway?
Who destroyed them?
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Re: Umgah Caster and Burvix Caster?
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2003, 11:58:34 am »

Yes you can sell the Burvix caster to the Druuge.  You can do that and play a trick on them the Umgah would love...

"Greedy fuel tanks...like sponge...har har har"

And as far as Mr. Cerulean says:


The Burvixese race evolved on the planet Arcturus I.
They lived there in a relatively benevolent manner
until the Kohr-Ah came and destroyed them during the course of 2 or 3 unfortunate days.  The Druuge were largely responsible for the Kohr-Ah's finding the Burvixese.
You see, the Burvixese were in long-distance HyperWave contact with a race known simply as the Gg. For decades the Gg and the Burvixese traded much valuable information
until the Gg came under attack by an invading race who you may know as the Kohr-Ah.  The Gg warned the Burvixese that the Kohr-Ah located races by their HyperWave transmissions and that they had already discovered the radiations from the Druuge.  When the Burvixese were kind enough to warn the Druuge that a hostile alien race
was homing in on their HyperWave's radiations, the Druuge shut down all their transmitters  and erected a powerful HyperWave beacon on the surface of the Burvixese moon.
The Kohr-Ah changed course, attacked the poor Burvixese and sadly, destroyed them all.
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Re: Umgah Caster and Burvix Caster?
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2003, 10:49:24 am »

ok, ok..... I know the spathi have the caster. I'm allied with it.
They talk about it.  Every hint site talks about it.



Arrgghhhh  - how do I get it?
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Re: Umgah Caster and Burvix Caster?
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2003, 03:54:11 pm »

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Arrgghhhh  - how do I get it?
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SPOILER ahead:


How good are you with their ships?
Does your fleet rely on them?
if yes: then you do not whish to receive their caster.
But it will come sometime.



BTW: I never got the Spathi-caster.
I always (even in my first game) found tht burvixese caster so early, that the spathi never left me.
Is that part of the code or another bug done by the protection-removing tsr-program i used (the arilou portal never opened for me, so i had to use a friends-save-game to get the portal-spawner.)? This happened in SC2 for DOS.
BTW: when (appr.) do the spathi leave? 2 years after alliing with'em or is there a fixed date?


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Re: Umgah Caster and Burvix Caster?
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2003, 05:36:30 pm »

The Spathi will be invited to study and attempt to take down the slave shield on Earth.  However the cowards that they are, they are working to duplicate the technology so they may slave shield themselves.  When they do that in one year's time after you ally with them, you will not be able to build/commission Spathi ships.
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Re: Umgah Caster and Burvix Caster?
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2003, 02:04:27 pm »

Just a nice trick - some people might consider this a SPOILER, so skip it if you haven't finished the first game yet, or whatever -

The Druuge are willing to buy back the Burvixe caster, and offer to fill your gas tanks to maximum capacity. If you go back to sol first and replace all none essential modules with empty fuel tanks, you take them up on their offer and get a cool surprise in the dialog + a pretty good profit.

Make sure you have at least a cannon on board your vessel. I never checked this part, but if your unarmed in Druuge space they consider you their property
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Re: Umgah Caster and Burvix Caster?
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2003, 05:21:39 pm »

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Make sure you have at least a cannon on board your vessel. I never checked this part, but if your unarmed in Druuge space they consider you their property


Actually, your ship can be completly unamred, but in that case you must have escort ships.

On the other hand, if it's both unarmed and without esport ships...
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Re: Umgah Caster and Burvix Caster?
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2003, 07:25:00 pm »

I just tried this trick out, using a save game I cheated on to get there quickly (all of my other save games are past the point where the Druuge add me to thier Ledger of Hatred, and I'm too impatient to play the game halfway through again to check up on one thing). After getting the Portal Spawner and Burvixese Caster, I headed to Zeta Persai 1, saved the game, edited my ships config to 16 Hi-Eff Fuel Tanks and no fuel, then loaded again.

When I went to sell the Caster, the Druuge instead offered me the Rosy Sphere. So I declined the offer. However when I told them I didn't want it, they not only told me that they would make the offer again, but they accepted the fuel trade offer instead! So by declining, I agreed to a different offer entirely, got my fuel tanks filled, and listened as the Druuge whined about giving me 1610 units of fuel.

Can we say 'bug', anyone? Or is it merely possible that my savegame editing might have somehow caused this?
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Re: Umgah Caster and Burvix Caster?
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2003, 09:45:35 pm »

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Can we say 'bug', anyone? Or is it merely possible that my savegame editing might have somehow caused this?


Man, that's the way it's supposed to be.
The normal deal for the Caster is, filling up your ship to the max capacity. But if you dont have the Rosy Sphere yet the Druuge ask you "Hey! We've got a special offer! Perhps you would like this here Rosy Sphere insted of the fuel?"
If you say no then the deal is made on previous conditions (the Caster fo the fuel)
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Re: Umgah Caster and Burvix Caster?
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2003, 11:43:52 pm »

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Don't they give you the Rosy Sphere for mycon egg shell?
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Re: Umgah Caster and Burvix Caster?
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2003, 11:47:32 pm »

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Don't they give you the Rosy Sphere for mycon egg shell?

That's what I normally do, but they'll unload it on you for anything.
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